Re: Happy Holidays to All

2022-12-24 Thread Rupert Reynolds
Whether you celebrate Sinterklaas,  Christmas, December solstice, or one of
several other events around this time of year (that I can't spell when I'm
sleepy), it's been an informative year here (as always) and I hope next
year brings you all something good.

It's bringing me a roadtrip into Scotland, something I've been waiting 3
years for :-)

Take care and see you all next year! :-)

Roops

On Sun, 25 Dec 2022, 03:06 Steve Horein,  wrote:

> You too!
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> > Whichever festival of light or year-end tradition you celebrate at this
> > dark (at least for those of us in the Northern Hemisphere) time of year,
> > have a joyous and safe holiday time.  Hug your loved ones and give thanks
> > for their love.
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Re: Happy Holidays to All

2022-12-24 Thread Steve Horein
You too!

On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 2:06 PM Farley, Peter <
031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> Whichever festival of light or year-end tradition you celebrate at this
> dark (at least for those of us in the Northern Hemisphere) time of year,
> have a joyous and safe holiday time.  Hug your loved ones and give thanks
> for their love.
>
> Peter
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Re: RLSE - A question about releasing unused tracks in a DASD dataset

2022-12-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 12:52:32 -0800, Ed Jaffe  
wrote:

>On 12/21/2022 1:20 AM, David Cole wrote:
>> Is there a way to release unused tracks in a classic z/OS PDS but
>> without having to open and close it?
>
>PARTREL.
>
>It *requires* that the data set NOT be open...
>
... And numerous other restrictions.

Does it meet the OP's criterion:
"Obviously, I could write something, but I don't want to."
(It seems to require an Assembler program.)

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Re: RLSE - A question about releasing unused tracks in a DASD dataset

2022-12-24 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 12/21/2022 1:20 AM, David Cole wrote:
Is there a way to release unused tracks in a classic z/OS PDS but 
without having to open and close it?


PARTREL.

It *requires* that the data set NOT be open...


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Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

2022-12-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 13:28:03 -0600, Mike Schwab wrote:

>How about an command to expand the directory by moving the early members back?
> 
Use PDSE or UNIX directories, both of which are fee of directory space 
limitations.

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Re: Markup languages

2022-12-24 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Fri, 23 Dec 2022, at 12:51, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> emacs
> THE
> vi
> ...

I've never used either  emacs  or  vi  and don't much want to have to
learn another text editor's command set.

Regarding THE, is there a list anywhere of what the differences between
it and Kedit are?  Wading through the THE documentation looking at
each command is tedious, and it's not helped by finding out that some
things are labelled "(not implemented)".


> You may have my copy of TSPF when they pry it out of my cold, dead 
> fingers.

I suspect that actually getting it from your estate might be tricky

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Happy Holidays to All

2022-12-24 Thread Farley, Peter
Whichever festival of light or year-end tradition you celebrate at this dark 
(at least for those of us in the Northern Hemisphere) time of year, have a 
joyous and safe holiday time.  Hug your loved ones and give thanks for their 
love.

Peter

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Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

2022-12-24 Thread Roger W Suhr
Look at the PDS command (rel 8.6) on the CBTTAPE (CBTTAPE.ORG)

Roger W. Suhr

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How about an command to expand the directory by moving the early members back?

On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 10:19 AM Michael Oujesky  wrote:
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> Wrong end,  Passing gas occurs at a different orifice.
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> >Burping ... because we are removing the gas trapped above in a PDS
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Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

2022-12-24 Thread Mike Schwab
How about an command to expand the directory by moving the early members back?

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> Wrong end,  Passing gas occurs at a different orifice.
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> Michael
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> >Burping ... because we are removing the gas trapped above in a PDS
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Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

2022-12-24 Thread Michael Oujesky

Wrong end,  Passing gas occurs at a different orifice.

Michael


At 08:40 AM 12/21/2022, Paul Gorlinsky wrote:


Burping ... because we are removing the gas trapped above in a PDS

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Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

2022-12-24 Thread David Cole

Hi Ed,

REORG? Not bad... Better than unfoam, that's for sure.

But I also like the defrag suggestion.
I think I'm going with that.

BTW... Merry Christmas!
Dave




At 12/23/2022 03:21 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote:

On 12/21/2022 3:16 AM, David Cole wrote:
The notion of "PDS compression" has a long and time honored 
history... But then along came... well, actual compression!
As we all know, PDS compression has nothing to do with data 
compression. All it does is rearrange the physical location of 
members so as to eliminate the holes (foam? gas?) that has arisen between them.
Historically, we have called that "compression", but in this day 
and age continuing to call it that no longer is an option.

Has anyone come up with a better term that I missed while not looking?

I like REORG.
It's a time-honored (often database) term used to describe various 
processes similar to what is done to a PDS during "compression"...


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