TRSMAIN AMATERSE

[kekronbekron]

By any chance, is the algorithm for tersing/untersing publicly available?

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Re: IBM C/C++ for Open Enterprise Languages

[David Crayford]

> On 10 Aug 2023, at 9:24 pm, Rick Troth  wrote:
> 
> > ... the IBM Open XL C/C++ compiler is not compatible with XL C/C++
> > or xlclang compilers. This incompatibility may pose challenges.
> > Python 3.11 is developed using IBM Open XL C/C++, while Python
> > 3.10 uses xlclang. As a result, binary packages created for
> > Python 3.10 won't work with the IBM Open XL C/C++ compiler.
> 
> Come again?
> Are you saying that object code for this platform produced by one compiler
> is incompatible with object code for this platform produced by the other 
> compiler?

I’m not 100% sure about the ABI but the C++ library is different. It’s a port 
of clang which is open source. IBM are committing z/OS LLVM/clang port 
upstream. 

> 
> The broken compiler "can only be used for open source", but open source 
> aficionados would surely use the alternative when compiling their wares.
> Free as in speech, not just free as in beer.

IBM don’t really do altruism on z/OS. Although you can download Python (and 
Node, golang etc) and use them free of charge. However, if you want to install 
a Python library that requires a C/C++ compiler to build extensions and you 
don’t have the paid for XL C/C++ product then this compiler will fill the gap. 
You can also use it to contribute to open source projects on z/OS but nothing 
else. Seems reasonable to me, it’s better than nothing. 

> 
> Perhaps the broken compiler should come with a surgeon general's warning.
> (A meaningful reference in the US where cigarette packaging has, now for 
> decades, been required to state "this product is bad for you".)
> 
> We continue further down the rabbit hole of software being used for 
> controlling people rather than software being used for controlling machines.
> 
> -- R; <><
> 
> 
> On 8/9/23 02:58, David Crayford wrote:
>> As if we didn’t already have enough z/OS C/C++ compilers :)
>> 
>> I've recently been working on Python bindings for z/OS products and wanted 
>> to share some useful notes. IBM recently released the IBM C/C++ for Open 
>> Enterprise Languages on z/OS compiler [1], a free version of IBM Open XL 
>> C/C++, which is a port of LLVM/clang. This compiler can only be used for 
>> open source. For example, to build Python, Node, go packages that require a 
>> build phase when installed or contributing to z/OS open source projects. 
>> It's important to note that the IBM Open XL C/C++ compiler is not compatible 
>> with XL C/C++ or xlclang compilers. This incompatibility may pose 
>> challenges. Python 3.11 is developed using IBM Open XL C/C++, while Python 
>> 3.10 uses xlclang. As a result, binary packages created for Python 3.10 
>> won't work with the IBM Open XL C/C++ compiler.
>> To overcome this issue, the recommended solution is to build Python 
>> distributions that include the source C/C++ code. During the installation 
>> process using pip, this code can be built. There are a few issues with the 
>> new compiler. Firstly, there is no support for "OS" linkage, meaning no 
>> #pragma linkage(module,OS) or extern 'OS' {}. Custom thunk routines need to 
>> be written to address this.  Additionally, the compiler supports inline 
>> assembly, but the -qasmlib= option is not available, making 
>> macros unusable. A workaround I found is to assemble some HLASM code and 
>> copy-paste from the listing.
>> Moreover, the runtime library is not entirely compatible with XL C/C++. I 
>> discovered that the __amrc structure is missing, which breaks my pzfile 
>> package and makes accessing VSAM files nearly impossible. I plan to open a 
>> case with IBM to address this issue.
>> Another limitation is that the compiler does not produce source/assembly 
>> listings. Furthermore, thread level storage is not supported, which 
>> complicates the process of porting certain libraries.
>> 
>> On a positive note, IBM has open-sourced their zoslib library [2], which 
>> assists in porting applications to z/OS. There is a lot of useful function 
>> in this library. It supports dynamically loading and calling modules using 
>> thunk routines. Unfortunately, there is a comment in the code which states 
>> it only works with xlclang. The library is Apache 2.0 licensed but it has 
>> IBM copyright. I'm not a lawyer so I'm unsure of the legalities of using 
>> this library for product code.
>> 
>> [1] 
>> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/cloud-paks/z-modernization-stack/2023.2?topic=languages-cc-open-enterprise-zos
>> [2] https://github.com/ibmruntimes/zoslib
>> 
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Re: Dfsort Overlay error

[Sri h Kolusu]

>> Here is what i am getting . Could you please let me what changes to be made ?

Ron,

Sigh ! Not sure as to how you invent your own syntax hope and that it would 
work.  You switched back to using 10 bytes despite me showing that the max 
length is only 8 bytes? and you coded 10 bytes without a format and converting 
it to TOGREG?

If you looked at the $ it is right underneath the First TOGREG function.

OVERLAY=(35:25,10,TOGREG=Y4T(-),ADDDAYS,+120,TOGREG=Y4T(-)))
  $

I guess you are so used to getting complete solutions that you don’t even 
bother to read and understand.

Either way here is something that meets your high expectations.

//SYSINDD *
  OPTION COPY
  OUTREC IFOUTLEN=44,
  IFTHEN=(WHEN=(35,10,CH,EQ,X'',AND,
25,10,CH,GT,X''),
   OVERLAY=(45:25,10,UFF,M11,LENGTH=8,
35:45,8,Y4T,ADDDAYS,+120,TOGREG=Y4T(-)))
/*

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Re: SQL Replication

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Would you explain what the source and target databases are please?

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Subject: SQL Replication

I just got a new assignment SQL REPLICATION.
Does anybody know an expert in the subject?
A checklist of what I should know?

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Hi Kolusu - Here is what i am getting . Could you please let me what changes to 
be made ? ICE000I 1 - CONTROL STATEMENTS FOR 5650-ZOS, Z/OS DFSORT V2R4 - 13: 
36 ON FRI AU OPTION COPY OUTREC 
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Here is what i am getting . Could you please let me what changes to be made ?



ICE000I 1 - CONTROL STATEMENTS FOR 5650-ZOS, Z/OS DFSORT V2R4  - 13:36 ON FRI AU

   OPTION COPY

   OUTREC IFTHEN=(WHEN=(35,10,CH,EQ,X'',

AND,25,10,CH,GT,X''),

   OVERLAY=(35:25,10,TOGREG=Y4T(-),ADDDAYS,+120,TOGREG=Y4T(-)))

 $

ICE007A E SYNTAX ERROR

ICE751I 0 C5-I79518 C6-I90068 C7-I76949 C8-I75151 E7-I76949

ICE052I 3 END OF DFSORT



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Re: ISPF List and Log - Improved Access

[Bob Bridges]

Try the whole URL.  Our handy-dandy listserv broke up his URL into two lines; 
if you paste the whole address into your browser I think you'll get the article.

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Page not found.

--- On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 07:35:52 AM CDT, Lionel B. Dyck 
 wrote:  
 I was asked yesterday about viewing the ISPF list and log files.

This article I wrote a year ago provides some useful information on how to 
simplify things for your ISPF users (and yourself).

https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel-dyck
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Re: ISPF List and Log - Improved Access

[Lionel B. Dyck]

Sadly the link wrapped and that broke it.

Try again but combine it before trying to use it

https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel-dyck2/2022/06/02/ispf-list-and-log-improved-access


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regards;

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 I was asked yesterday about viewing the ISPF list and log files.

This article I wrote a year ago provides some useful information on how to 
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https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel-dyck
2/2022/06/02/ispf-list-and-log-improved-access



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 wrote:  
 
 I was asked yesterday about viewing the ISPF list and log files.

This article I wrote a year ago provides some useful information on how to
simplify things for your ISPF users (and yourself).

https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel-dyck
2/2022/06/02/ispf-list-and-log-improved-access



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SQL Replication

[Galdamez, Adolfo@EDD]

I just got a new assignment SQL REPLICATION.
Does anybody know an expert in the subject?
A checklist of what I should know?

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Thomas
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 11:40 AM
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Subject: Re: Dfsort Overlay error

Hi Kolusu - Here is what i am getting . Could you please let me what changes to 
be made ? ICE000I 1 - CONTROL STATEMENTS FOR 5650-ZOS, Z/OS DFSORT V2R4 - 13: 
36 ON FRI AU OPTION COPY OUTREC 
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Here is what i am getting . Could you please let me what changes to be made ?



ICE000I 1 - CONTROL STATEMENTS FOR 5650-ZOS, Z/OS DFSORT V2R4  - 13:36 ON FRI AU

   OPTION COPY

   OUTREC IFTHEN=(WHEN=(35,10,CH,EQ,X'',

AND,25,10,CH,GT,X''),

   OVERLAY=(35:25,10,TOGREG=Y4T(-),ADDDAYS,+120,TOGREG=Y4T(-)))

 $

ICE007A E SYNTAX ERROR

ICE751I 0 C5-I79518 C6-I90068 C7-I76949 C8-I75151 E7-I76949

ICE052I 3 END OF DFSORT



Thanks

Ron T



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Re: Dfsort Overlay error

[Ron Thomas]

Hi Kolusu -

Here is what i am getting . Could you please let me what changes to be made ?

ICE000I 1 - CONTROL STATEMENTS FOR 5650-ZOS, Z/OS DFSORT V2R4  - 13:36 ON FRI AU
   OPTION COPY
   OUTREC IFTHEN=(WHEN=(35,10,CH,EQ,X'',
AND,25,10,CH,GT,X''),
   OVERLAY=(35:25,10,TOGREG=Y4T(-),ADDDAYS,+120,TOGREG=Y4T(-)))
 $
ICE007A E SYNTAX ERROR
ICE751I 0 C5-I79518 C6-I90068 C7-I76949 C8-I75151 E7-I76949
ICE052I 3 END OF DFSORT

Thanks 
Ron T

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Re: Dfsort Overlay error

[Sri h Kolusu]

>> Could you please help me figure out where the issue is ?

Ron,

Here are the issues assuming that you read thru documentation that I shared 
earlier.

•   The Syntax of ADDDAYS shows that it requires TOGREG or TOJUL.
•   Look at table 18, you would notice that max length of Y4T is 8 bytes. 
But you are using 10 bytes.

Is there a reason that you are NOT showing the error messages you got from the 
control cards you used? The DFSORT error messages will let you know the reason 
for the failure.


Thanks,
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Re: Dfsort Overlay error

[Ron Thomas]

Thanks Kolusu for sharing the link . still i am not able to figure out the same 
.

Modified as below and still not working 

OPTION COPY
OUTREC IFTHEN=(WHEN=(35,10,CH,EQ,X'',
   AND,25,10,CH,GT,X''),
OVERLAY=(35:25,10,Y4T,ADDDAYS,+120))

Could you please help me figure out where the issue is ?

Regards
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Re: Dfsort Overlay error

[Sri h Kolusu]

>> could someone please let me know what the issue is in the control card as it 
>> is giving error .

Ron,

Looks like you invented your syntax , which is NOT valid with DFSORT.  Search 
for "Adding or Subtracting Days" in the below link and you will see the right 
syntax. Pay attention to Table.18 which describes the formats you can use for 
date arithmetic.

https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=statements-outfil-control


Thanks,
Kolusu
DFSORT Development
IBM Corporation



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Dfsort Overlay error

[Ron Thomas]

Hi -

I have a file of LRECL 44 and need to overlay a date in Position 35 by adding 
120 days to the date at position 25

The overlay to be done based also on  condition .

Coded as below

OPTION COPY
OUTREC IFTHEN=(WHEN=(35,10,CH,EQ,X'',
   AND,25,10,CH,GT,X''),
OVERLAY=(35:25,10,ADDDAYS,+120))

Date format at position 25 is -MM-DD

could someone please let me know what the issue is in the control card as it is 
giving error .

Thanks 
Ron T

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ISPF 3.11

[Steve Beaver]

Good Morning

 

Have anyone in the group used ISPF 3.11, and then invoked in

ISPF in batch? 

 

 

Steve

 

 

 


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Re: z/OS performance question

[rpinion865]

Sorry I forgot to mention, the Development LPAR has access to a ZIIP.




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> Depending on the actual work characteristics, you might consider buying a 
> zIIP. You could share this between PROD and DEV to offload a lot of "grunt" 
> work that runs in an SRB, including Sorts and many ISV products from BMC and 
> Broadcom. More good news, any work offloaded from the GPs may cut your MLC 
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Depending on the actual work characteristics, you might consider buying a zIIP. 
 You could share this between PROD and DEV to offload a lot of "grunt" work 
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Broadcom.  More good news, any work offloaded from the GPs may cut your MLC 
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Additional update on our configuration.  We have a z15-T02, with two physical 
engines.  Our production LPAR has one dedicated GCP and shares the second GCP 
with the Development LPAR.  Since Development only has access to only one 
physical processor, our performance and tuning company feels that adding 
another logical GCP would not help.  They have pointed out that the DB2 work 
coming from the DB2 batch jobs, may be generating SRBs, which are always 
dispatched before TCBs and due to the capping, TSO and other work gets delayed.




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> I have seen Db2 unloads use vastly more (overall total) CPU when doing
> parallelised processing, compared to non-parallelised.
> Obviously you are doing reload (I presume) rather than unload, but the same
> thing may apply.
> So might be something worth checking/testing, if parallelism is relevant to
> your situation. Not just for the overall CPU aspect (which was never
> determined as to whether it was an actual bug or not, as far as I
> remember), but also with regard to the numerous threads that would be
> trying to dispatch simultaneously, and the contention that would generate
> on a single CP LPAR.
> 
> On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 at 17:06, rpinion865 <
> 042a019916dd-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
> > Well, for starters the DB2 address spaces are in a service class named
> > STCHI, which has the following WLM definitions.
> > Importance Level 1 with an execution velocity of 55. Regarding the
> > situation when "DB2" uses most of the CPU. It is
> > not the DB2 address spaces that max out the CPU, rather the batch jobs
> > using DB2, in this case a batch job to restore
> > a database. We have a third party who does our performance management and
> > makes recommendations. We have asked them
> > to look at the DB2 batch jobs. One comment they made was that the
> > database restore may be invoking internal sorts,
> > with little I/O interrupts. Therefore allowing this batch job, with the
> > related WLM controls, to dominate the CPU.
> > 
> > Which is why I think adding another logical CP to the LPAR would help
> > other work. What we have to be very careful
> > about is not to increase the MSU usage of this LPAR. We run several IBM
> > and non-IBM products on this LPAR that have
> > their pricing based on the capped MSU usage for this LPAR.
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> > > By any chance do you have your Db2 address spaces in SYSSTC? If yes, get
> > > them moved out AND share give development uses of both logical CPs.
> > > IRLM should be there but the others should. On a 1 CP system, all
> > > regular work stops while a task in SYSSTC is using the CPU. High CPU users
> > > like Db2 should not be in SYSSTC; especially on a system with only 1
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Re: IBM z/OS Internet Library down?

[Bobbie Justice]

The product lifecycle page appears to be having issues too. Its making me login 
now to view details, and then giving me access denied messages.
 
It was working earlier this week. 

Bobbie Jo Justice 
Senior z/OS Systems Programmer

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Re: IBM z/OS Internet Library down?

[Sri h Kolusu]

>> On  V2R5 | V2R4 | V2R3 | V2R2 | V2R1 | - Download books in PDF format  Click 
>> on  V2R5   

Bonnie,

Try this.

https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=documentation-pdf-files-zos-250-library

or the direct link to zip of all PDFs

https://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/zoslib/pdf/zosv2r5kitpdfs.zip

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Re: IBM z/OS Internet Library down?

[Bonnie Barthel]

Thanks for confirming this was not a personal problemI opened a case at IBM 
Support (TS013870255) but wasn't sure what the 'product' should be

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It appears to be the case for V2R4 and V2R3 also (for "Download books in PDF 
format"), not just V2R5. V2R2 and V2R1 worked fine.
I can access other items on the page.

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> 40.ibm.com%2Fservers%2Fresourcelink%2Fsvc00100.nsf%2Fpages%2FzosIntern
> etLibrary%3FOpenDocument=05%7C01%7CBill.Hitefield%40DINO-
> SOFTWARE.COM%7C2333b4e46b5b46ecbc3208db9a70db55%7Cbe5c5b1debb3
> 43f3a3641e98fd405647%7C0%7C0%7C638273581755219220%7CUnknown%7C
> TWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJX
> VCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=L5UE6GjN%2F1XNFGaAU8cs9LEcg4
> hv%2FYoGEE9fmx0q3mI%3D=0
> 
> On  V2R5 | V2R4 | V2R3 | V2R2 | V2R1 | - Download books in PDF format  
> Click on  V2R5
> 
> Oops - that's not right!
> The page you requested cannot be displayed. 500: Internal Server Error
> 
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Re: IBM z/OS Internet Library down?

[Bill Hitefield]

It appears to be the case for V2R4 and V2R3 also (for "Download books in PDF 
format"), not just V2R5. V2R2 and V2R1 worked fine.
I can access other items on the page.

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> 43f3a3641e98fd405647%7C0%7C0%7C638273581755219220%7CUnknown%7C
> TWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJX
> VCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=L5UE6GjN%2F1XNFGaAU8cs9LEcg4
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Re: IBM z/OS Internet Library down?

[Lionel B. Dyck]

Correction - I clicked the wrong link (a tad small on my iphone) - got the 
'right' link and it failed as yours did.


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>From 
>https://www-40.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zosInternetLibrary?OpenDocument

On  V2R5 | V2R4 | V2R3 | V2R2 | V2R1 | - Download books in PDF format  Click on 
 V2R5   

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Re: IBM z/OS Internet Library down?

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Worked for me


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On  V2R5 | V2R4 | V2R3 | V2R2 | V2R1 | - Download books in PDF format  Click on 
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From 
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On  V2R5 | V2R4 | V2R3 | V2R2 | V2R1 | - Download books in PDF format  Click on 
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Re: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

[esst...@juno.com]

It appears i can retriev information by specifying either of these two 
commands:NETSTAT ALL FORM SHORT (CLIENT AWTSTDP3 
NETSTAT ALL FORM LONG (CLIENT AWTSTDP3.Thanks everyone

-- Original Message --
From: Colin Paice 
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 13:49:42 +0100

The doc says *The APPLname filter is valid only with TELnet.  *Are you
using telnet?

On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 at 13:43, esst...@juno.com  wrote:

> NETSTAT TELNET (APPLNAME AWTSTDP3 did not reurn any useful data
> It only returned 
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Peter Vels 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 08:52:14 +1000
>
> Try:
>
> NETSTAT TELNET (APPLNAME AWTSTDP3
>
> On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 at 07:59, esst...@juno.com  wrote:
>
> > Yes I have looked at that page, and not getting any data - so I suspect
> my
> > sytax is incorrect
> >
> > -- Original Message --
> > From: Mike Schwab 
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 16:23:11 -0500
> >
> >
> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.2.0?topic=overview-netstat-command-filter
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 10, 2023, 15:56 esst...@juno.com  wrote:
> >
> > > Hello.I am trying to use TSO NETSTAT with a FILTER and keep receiving
> > > -EZZ2351I Incorrect option: FILTER..I can issue NETSTAT ALL, however
> > there
> > > too much data..So I'm Trying to use a filter..I have tried many
> different
> > > variations such as:NETSTAT (FILTER APPLMAE AWTSTDP3
> > > NETSTAT ALLCONN (FILTER APPLNAME AWTSTDP3
> > > NETSTAT ALLCONN (FILTER APPLNAME AWTSTDP3
> > > NETSTAT ALLCONN/a | (FILTER APPLNAME AWTSTDP3
> > > NETSTAT ALLCONN | (FILTER APPLNAME AWTSTDP3..I can't seem to get the
> > > syntax correct.Can someone provide an example of using NETSTAT with a
> > > FILETER and APPLNAME of AWTSTDP3 with the proper syntax?,.paul
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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 13:49:42 +0100

The doc says *The APPLname filter is valid only with TELnet.  *Are you
using telnet?

On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 at 13:43, esst...@juno.com  wrote:

> NETSTAT TELNET (APPLNAME AWTSTDP3 did not reurn any useful data
> It only returned 
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Peter Vels 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 08:52:14 +1000
>
> Try:
>
> NETSTAT TELNET (APPLNAME AWTSTDP3
>
> On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 at 07:59, esst...@juno.com  wrote:
>
> > Yes I have looked at that page, and not getting any data - so I suspect
> my
> > sytax is incorrect
> >
> > -- Original Message --
> > From: Mike Schwab 
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 16:23:11 -0500
> >
> >
> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.2.0?topic=overview-netstat-command-filter
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 10, 2023, 15:56 esst...@juno.com  wrote:
> >
> > > Hello.I am trying to use TSO NETSTAT with a FILTER and keep receiving
> > > -EZZ2351I Incorrect option: FILTER..I can issue NETSTAT ALL, however
> > there
> > > too much data..So I'm Trying to use a filter..I have tried many
> different
> > > variations such as:NETSTAT (FILTER APPLMAE AWTSTDP3
> > > NETSTAT ALLCONN (FILTER APPLNAME AWTSTDP3
> > > NETSTAT ALLCONN (FILTER APPLNAME AWTSTDP3
> > > NETSTAT ALLCONN/a | (FILTER APPLNAME AWTSTDP3
> > > NETSTAT ALLCONN | (FILTER APPLNAME AWTSTDP3..I can't seem to get the
> > > syntax correct.Can someone provide an example of using NETSTAT with a
> > > FILETER and APPLNAME of AWTSTDP3 with the proper syntax?,.paul
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[Colin Paice]

The doc says *The APPLname filter is valid only with TELnet.  *Are you
using telnet?

On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 at 13:43, esst...@juno.com  wrote:

> NETSTAT TELNET (APPLNAME AWTSTDP3 did not reurn any useful data
> It only returned 
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Peter Vels 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 08:52:14 +1000
>
> Try:
>
> NETSTAT TELNET (APPLNAME AWTSTDP3
>
> On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 at 07:59, esst...@juno.com  wrote:
>
> > Yes I have looked at that page, and not getting any data - so I suspect
> my
> > sytax is incorrect
> >
> > -- Original Message --
> > From: Mike Schwab 
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 16:23:11 -0500
> >
> >
> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.2.0?topic=overview-netstat-command-filter
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 10, 2023, 15:56 esst...@juno.com  wrote:
> >
> > > Hello.I am trying to use TSO NETSTAT with a FILTER and keep receiving
> > > -EZZ2351I Incorrect option: FILTER..I can issue NETSTAT ALL, however
> > there
> > > too much data..So I'm Trying to use a filter..I have tried many
> different
> > > variations such as:NETSTAT (FILTER APPLMAE AWTSTDP3
> > > NETSTAT ALLCONN (FILTER APPLNAME AWTSTDP3
> > > NETSTAT ALLCONN (FILTER APPLNAME AWTSTDP3
> > > NETSTAT ALLCONN/a | (FILTER APPLNAME AWTSTDP3
> > > NETSTAT ALLCONN | (FILTER APPLNAME AWTSTDP3..I can't seem to get the
> > > syntax correct.Can someone provide an example of using NETSTAT with a
> > > FILETER and APPLNAME of AWTSTDP3 with the proper syntax?,.paul
> > >
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Re: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

[esst...@juno.com]

My understanding is that NETSTAT with a FILTER; should return a subset of the 
information returned by NETSTAT ALL NETSTAT TELNET (APPLNAME AWTSTDP3  only 
returned --
-- Original Message --
From: Peter Vels 
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 08:52:14 +1000

Try:

NETSTAT TELNET (APPLNAME AWTSTDP3

On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 at 07:59, esst...@juno.com  wrote:

> Yes I have looked at that page, and not getting any data - so I suspect my
> sytax is incorrect
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Mike Schwab 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 16:23:11 -0500
>
> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.2.0?topic=overview-netstat-command-filter
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2023, 15:56 esst...@juno.com  wrote:
>
> > Hello.I am trying to use TSO NETSTAT with a FILTER and keep receiving
> > -EZZ2351I Incorrect option: FILTER..I can issue NETSTAT ALL, however
> there
> > too much data..So I'm Trying to use a filter..I have tried many different
> > variations such as:NETSTAT (FILTER APPLMAE AWTSTDP3
> > NETSTAT ALLCONN (FILTER APPLNAME AWTSTDP3
> > NETSTAT ALLCONN (FILTER APPLNAME AWTSTDP3
> > NETSTAT ALLCONN/a | (FILTER APPLNAME AWTSTDP3
> > NETSTAT ALLCONN | (FILTER APPLNAME AWTSTDP3..I can't seem to get the
> > syntax correct.Can someone provide an example of using NETSTAT with a
> > FILETER and APPLNAME of AWTSTDP3 with the proper syntax?,.paul
> >
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[esst...@juno.com]

NETSTAT TELNET (APPLNAME AWTSTDP3 did not reurn any useful data
It only returned 

-- Original Message --
From: Peter Vels 
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 08:52:14 +1000

Try:

NETSTAT TELNET (APPLNAME AWTSTDP3

On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 at 07:59, esst...@juno.com  wrote:

> Yes I have looked at that page, and not getting any data - so I suspect my
> sytax is incorrect
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Mike Schwab 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 16:23:11 -0500
>
> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.2.0?topic=overview-netstat-command-filter
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2023, 15:56 esst...@juno.com  wrote:
>
> > Hello.I am trying to use TSO NETSTAT with a FILTER and keep receiving
> > -EZZ2351I Incorrect option: FILTER..I can issue NETSTAT ALL, however
> there
> > too much data..So I'm Trying to use a filter..I have tried many different
> > variations such as:NETSTAT (FILTER APPLMAE AWTSTDP3
> > NETSTAT ALLCONN (FILTER APPLNAME AWTSTDP3
> > NETSTAT ALLCONN (FILTER APPLNAME AWTSTDP3
> > NETSTAT ALLCONN/a | (FILTER APPLNAME AWTSTDP3
> > NETSTAT ALLCONN | (FILTER APPLNAME AWTSTDP3..I can't seem to get the
> > syntax correct.Can someone provide an example of using NETSTAT with a
> > FILETER and APPLNAME of AWTSTDP3 with the proper syntax?,.paul
> >
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ISPF List and Log - Improved Access

[Lionel B. Dyck]

I was asked yesterday about viewing the ISPF list and log files.

This article I wrote a year ago provides some useful information on how to
simplify things for your ISPF users (and yourself).

https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel-dyck
2/2022/06/02/ispf-list-and-log-improved-access



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Re: ISPF in batch

[Steve Beaver]

Thank you all for your input.

I still have NO IDEA what Format  DELETED.  I'm SWAG DELETED is a MACRO of some 
type but
Until the USER looks  in SYSPROC and SYSEXEC I'm a bit lost about Format.



Steve 


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Of Wayne Bickerdike
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 10:00 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ISPF in batch

I've used an EDIT macro in 3.4. Not sure what the OP is trying to do.

I have one REXX exec called ALLMEM which prompts for a macro name and it
applies a global edit to each member of a selected PDS.

I've used it in batch too as a poor man's FileAid or Filemanager.

On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 7:05 AM Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> What are you tring to do? What's wrong with ADDRESS ISPEXEC EDIT ...
> within an ISPF script??
>
>
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>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf
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> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 12:04 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: ISPF in batch
>
> Do any one of the group have any experience editing a file under 3.4
>
> And executing an Init MACRO
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve
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