Re: Strange results for the PS1 prompt with z/OS Unix
On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 19:33:03 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >I'm feeling a bit puzzled here! Bash doesn't come pre-installed with >z/OS; rather, it's a tool ported by Rocket, so there shouldn't be any >compatibility problems, right? If IBM decides to include zsh, which is >considered superior to bash, this could be a game-changer. Currently trying this one out, not too sure if there is any Rocket influence or not: https://github.com/ZOSOpenTools/bashport Sebastian. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Has anyone
EBCDIC - WnBrowse. Very small, quite old, free. BTW: When no dedicated tool is available, then regular MS Word could be used. XMIT - a bunch of viewers listed on cbttape.org. My preferred one is XiFrame Xmit Explorer. BTW2: The above tools combined with 7zip or WinRAR provide quite nice set of tools for viewing SMP/E stuff. :-) BTW3: Fortunately it is much more on-topic than MS Office. :-) -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 15.08.2023 o 23:58, Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw pisze: For a HEX viewr, try the V fileviewer at www.fileviewer.com It also recognises XMIT format and will even work with XMIT within XMIT. I bought a license about 8 years back for very little. Lennie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: 15 August 2023 21:55 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Has anyone I use MS Office Pro Plus, but it's still 2019. No plans to upgrade until I must; often when I "upgrade" I find the new product doesn't do something I wanted to continue doing. For example, some years ago I set out to find a text editor that had a hex-display feature. I settled on Notepad++, and it was fine. But one day it offered an upgrade, and I accepted without fear. Turns out, though, they'd discontinued the hex feature. Does anyone have a suggestion for a replacement, by the way? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* It is amazing how reading the whole Bible can affect some eschatology. -Rick Joyner, October 2018. */ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Has anyone
Other advantages of HxD are: 1. It can edit large files. Much larger than you RAM. 2. It can be set up to "support LRECL" - very useful when working with files downloaded from z/OS (without CRLF). -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 16.08.2023 o 00:46, Charles Mills pisze: I use it. I have nothing to really compare it to, but it does the job for me. Supports EBCDIC. Charles On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 22:16:16 +, Pommier, Rex wrote: I highly recommend "HxD hex edit". -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Microsoft office
W dniu 15.08.2023 o 17:47, Steve Beaver pisze: One thing that absolutely scares the hell out of me is converting Office 2010 To any of the new Office Products, Has anyone converted? What Problems did you have? (yes, it is off-topic, but I couldn't resist) Yes, I did. Conversion from 2010 to any newer version was not a pain. But NOTE: the more advanced features you use the more pain because of incompatibilities, dropped suport, etc. The most painful migrations I remember: 1. Word 2.0 to 6.0 2. Word 2000 to XP 3. Word XP to 2003 4. Word 2003 or older to 2007 Ad 1. A lot of incompatibilities, especially related to PL version. Polish letters (ąćęłńóśćżź) converted to "US-eng" codetable equivalents. 2. Dropped support for diagrams creator. I had to recreate it from scratch. 3. New errors which resulted abends during typo-check. 4. Completely changed user interface with almost no new features. Very same functions need to searched. Other "features": suddenly dropped support for Word 2.0 files. You even cannot open it! suddenly dropped support for RTF files. suddenly dropped/changed plugins like Equation Editors, etc. changed functions like indexing, styles, contents, etc. etc. suddenly dropped/revolutionized pictures embedded (not bitmaps, just drawings like squares, circles, arrows, etc. ) This is only part of "advantages" mostly related to Word. Hints: 1. Don't try to use advanced features if you really can avoid it. 2. Open all your documents and all the features like drawings or embedded objects. 3. If you can simply keep your old version! Yes, you can still have your ancient version of Office on you PC. Just use VirtualBox or other hypervisor and keep one or few virtual machines. Check your license terms, but if you had older version then usually you did not lost the license. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Has anyone
He had me at "Supports EBCDIC". The other 2 hex editors on my PC don't, and I've had trouble in the past trying to convert in my head, especially lower case. One time I remember running a test and purposely used only numbers as data because I could translate those easily. On 8/19/2023 10:29 AM, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: Other advantages of HxD are: 1. It can edit large files. Much larger than you RAM. 2. It can be set up to "support LRECL" - very useful when working with files downloaded from z/OS (without CRLF). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Microsoft office
Wait - the new Word doesn't read RTF?!! The other changes I'll cheerfully join you in deploring, but this is the only one that truly shocks me. Not that I am fluent in RTF. But I did write an ooRexx program once to convert a collection of plain-text error messages to a decent format using RTF (with numerous references to the latest specification) with the idea that it could then be imported into Word and book-ended with beginning and ending sections to make up a messages manual. Once I started using LaTeX I recommended that we change the plan and do it that way instead, abandoning Word. But I'm still shocked. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If you have a problem with me, text me. And if you don’t have my number, you don’t know me well enough to have a problem with me. -Christian Bale */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2023 14:04 Yes, I did. Conversion from 2010 to any newer version was not a pain. But NOTE: the more advanced features you use the more pain because of incompatibilities, dropped suport, etc. The most painful migrations I remember: 1. Word 2.0 to 6.0 2. Word 2000 to XP 3. Word XP to 2003 4. Word 2003 or older to 2007 Ad 1. A lot of incompatibilities, especially related to PL version. Polish letters (ąćęłńóśćżź) converted to "US-eng" codetable equivalents. 2. Dropped support for diagrams creator. I had to recreate it from scratch. 3. New errors which resulted abends during typo-check. 4. Completely changed user interface with almost no new features. Very same functions need to searched. Other "features": suddenly dropped support for Word 2.0 files. You even cannot open it! suddenly dropped support for RTF files. suddenly dropped/changed plugins like Equation Editors, etc. changed functions like indexing, styles, contents, etc. etc. suddenly dropped/revolutionized pictures embedded (not bitmaps, just drawings like squares, circles, arrows, etc. ) This is only part of "advantages" mostly related to Word. Hints: 1. Don't try to use advanced features if you really can avoid it. 2. Open all your documents and all the features like drawings or embedded objects. 3. If you can simply keep your old version! Yes, you can still have your ancient version of Office on you PC. Just use VirtualBox or other hypervisor and keep one or few virtual machines. Check your license terms, but if you had older version then usually you did not lost the license. --- W dniu 15.08.2023 o 17:47, Steve Beaver pisze: > One thing that absolutely scares the hell out of me is converting > Office 2010 to any of the new Office Products, > > Has anyone converted? What Problems did you have? > > (yes, it is off-topic, but I couldn't resist) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Microsoft office
My memory is far from perfect, however I could swear it was RTF. Many years ago. Or maybe it was another non-DOC format? I just checked it now - RTF is supported (Word 2013). However uncle Google shows some vulnerabilities related to Word and RTF. BTW: my another "favorite" feature of MS is disappearance of features/applications from your systems - as a part of updating process. So, you bought a license for the system with the features and you loose some of them. Without any warning. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 19.08.2023 o 22:25, Bob Bridges pisze: Wait - the new Word doesn't read RTF?!! The other changes I'll cheerfully join you in deploring, but this is the only one that truly shocks me. Not that I am fluent in RTF. But I did write an ooRexx program once to convert a collection of plain-text error messages to a decent format using RTF (with numerous references to the latest specification) with the idea that it could then be imported into Word and book-ended with beginning and ending sections to make up a messages manual. Once I started using LaTeX I recommended that we change the plan and do it that way instead, abandoning Word. But I'm still shocked. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If you have a problem with me, text me. And if you don’t have my number, you don’t know me well enough to have a problem with me. -Christian Bale */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2023 14:04 Yes, I did. Conversion from 2010 to any newer version was not a pain. But NOTE: the more advanced features you use the more pain because of incompatibilities, dropped suport, etc. The most painful migrations I remember: 1. Word 2.0 to 6.0 2. Word 2000 to XP 3. Word XP to 2003 4. Word 2003 or older to 2007 Ad 1. A lot of incompatibilities, especially related to PL version. Polish letters (ąćęłńóśćżź) converted to "US-eng" codetable equivalents. 2. Dropped support for diagrams creator. I had to recreate it from scratch. 3. New errors which resulted abends during typo-check. 4. Completely changed user interface with almost no new features. Very same functions need to searched. Other "features": suddenly dropped support for Word 2.0 files. You even cannot open it! suddenly dropped support for RTF files. suddenly dropped/changed plugins like Equation Editors, etc. changed functions like indexing, styles, contents, etc. etc. suddenly dropped/revolutionized pictures embedded (not bitmaps, just drawings like squares, circles, arrows, etc. ) This is only part of "advantages" mostly related to Word. Hints: 1. Don't try to use advanced features if you really can avoid it. 2. Open all your documents and all the features like drawings or embedded objects. 3. If you can simply keep your old version! Yes, you can still have your ancient version of Office on you PC. Just use VirtualBox or other hypervisor and keep one or few virtual machines. Check your license terms, but if you had older version then usually you did not lost the license. --- W dniu 15.08.2023 o 17:47, Steve Beaver pisze: One thing that absolutely scares the hell out of me is converting Office 2010 to any of the new Office Products, Has anyone converted? What Problems did you have? (yes, it is off-topic, but I couldn't resist) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Please do not attack / insult each other.
W dniu 15.08.2023 o 02:16, Grant Taylor pisze: Please do not attack / insult each other. Let's instead have conversations where it's okay to disagree with each other while still respecting each other and valuing each other's opinions. It's okay to disagree. It's not okay to insult the person that you disagree with. +1 -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: BLDL User Data
Take a look at PDS2EPM https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.1.0?topic=areas-pds-directory-entry-format-returned-by-bldl On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 7:29 AM Joseph Reichman wrote: > Hi > > > > Just looking the user data I got from a BLDL specifically the entry name I > have multiple (4) entry points the BLDL returned the entry /offset in the > last entry for PDS2EPA using IHAPDS to map the returned data > > > > Was wondering if there was a way to get the other entry points > > > > Thanks > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
XCFAS and TRUSTED
I'm setting up some sysplex and found some healthcheck is not OK, the reason was XCFAS was not TRUSTED. Questions: 1. Is the requirement of the TRUSTED status documented anywhere? That's good to know before auditor asked. 2. Is there any way to fix it without reIPL? 3. Somehow related to 2. - IMHO actually it is not matter of the attribute, but the matter of access to some resources. Are the resources needed for XCFAS documented/known ? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: BLDL User Data
Alias entry points have separate directory entries. The alias directory entries have a flag bit on (I remember there is a DSECT IHAPDS or similar name) which indicate that this directory entry is an alias and also may have a different entry point address than the real or other alias members You need to match the TTR of alias to members the real member by running through all directory entries. If the real member is deleted but not all alias(s), those alias(s) are orphaned member(s) but the tensing member(s) data (load module) still exist. In this case knowing the real member name is not possible except if you know history of load module or maybe have backup or some other history like binder output or maybe job JCL. You’re the sleuth. > On Aug 19, 2023, at 4:48 PM, Attila Fogarasi wrote: > > Take a look at PDS2EPM > https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.1.0?topic=areas-pds-directory-entry-format-returned-by-bldl > > >> On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 7:29 AM Joseph Reichman >> wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> Just looking the user data I got from a BLDL specifically the entry name I >> have multiple (4) entry points the BLDL returned the entry /offset in the >> last entry for PDS2EPA using IHAPDS to map the returned data >> >> >> >> Was wondering if there was a way to get the other entry points >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: BLDL User Data
On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 17:14:41 -0500, Dave Kreiss wrote: >... If the real member is deleted but not all alias(s), those alias(s) are > orphaned member(s) but the tensing member(s) data (load module) still exist. > Did that change with PDSE? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Microsoft office
It's for this very reason that I still maintain at least one computer with Windows 3.1 and Word 1.1a. Everything works, including formulas. And it came with a great manual. As well as for preparing documents generally, I used Word 1.1a for automatically preparing indexes for books. Trying to convert to Word 6 was a disaster; for example, changing from footnotes to end notes lost the entire document. There were minor problems also with Word 6, such as different meanings of keystrokes for the extra characters using the ALT key. On 2023-08-20 04:03, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: W dniu 15.08.2023 o 17:47, Steve Beaver pisze: One thing that absolutely scares the hell out of me is converting Office 2010 To any of the new Office Products, Has anyone converted? What Problems did you have? (yes, it is off-topic, but I couldn't resist) Yes, I did. Conversion from 2010 to any newer version was not a pain. But NOTE: the more advanced features you use the more pain because of incompatibilities, dropped suport, etc. The most painful migrations I remember: 1. Word 2.0 to 6.0 2. Word 2000 to XP 3. Word XP to 2003 4. Word 2003 or older to 2007 Ad 1. A lot of incompatibilities, especially related to PL version. Polish letters (ąćęłńóśćżź) converted to "US-eng" codetable equivalents. 2. Dropped support for diagrams creator. I had to recreate it from scratch. 3. New errors which resulted abends during typo-check. 4. Completely changed user interface with almost no new features. Very same functions need to searched. Other "features": suddenly dropped support for Word 2.0 files. You even cannot open it! suddenly dropped support for RTF files. suddenly dropped/changed plugins like Equation Editors, etc. changed functions like indexing, styles, contents, etc. etc. suddenly dropped/revolutionized pictures embedded (not bitmaps, just drawings like squares, circles, arrows, etc. ) This is only part of "advantages" mostly related to Word. Hints: 1. Don't try to use advanced features if you really can avoid it. 2. Open all your documents and all the features like drawings or embedded objects. 3. If you can simply keep your old version! Yes, you can still have your ancient version of Office on you PC. Just use VirtualBox or other hypervisor and keep one or few virtual machines. Check your license terms, but if you had older version then usually you did not lost the license. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Microsoft office
I just tested RTF and ODT with Office 365's Word which shows "Microsoft® Word for Microsoft 365 MSO (Version 2307 Build 16.0.16626.20170) 64-bit " And it works for both. I used Libre Office to generate both. Steve Thompson On 8/19/2023 5:45 PM, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: My memory is far from perfect, however I could swear it was RTF. Many years ago. Or maybe it was another non-DOC format? I just checked it now - RTF is supported (Word 2013). However uncle Google shows some vulnerabilities related to Word and RTF. BTW: my another "favorite" feature of MS is disappearance of features/applications from your systems - as a part of updating process. So, you bought a license for the system with the features and you loose some of them. Without any warning. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Microsoft office
The caveat here is, I can no longer run Office 97 as it is not compatible with W11. I've found that all my older software (that worked up through W7) will not run under W11. Argggh! I'm wondering if I can get it to work under V-BOX with an older W/7 Installation Steve Thompson On 8/19/2023 9:29 PM, Robin Vowels wrote: It's for this very reason that I still maintain at least one computer with Windows 3.1 and Word 1.1a. Everything works, including formulas. And it came with a great manual. As well as for preparing documents generally, I used Word 1.1a for automatically preparing indexes for books. Trying to convert to Word 6 was a disaster; for example, changing from footnotes to end notes lost the entire document. There were minor problems also with Word 6, such as different meanings of keystrokes for the extra characters using the ALT key. On 2023-08-20 04:03, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: W dniu 15.08.2023 o 17:47, Steve Beaver pisze: One thing that absolutely scares the hell out of me is converting Office 2010 To any of the new Office Products, Has anyone converted? What Problems did you have? (yes, it is off-topic, but I couldn't resist) Yes, I did. Conversion from 2010 to any newer version was not a pain. But NOTE: the more advanced features you use the more pain because of incompatibilities, dropped suport, etc. The most painful migrations I remember: 1. Word 2.0 to 6.0 2. Word 2000 to XP 3. Word XP to 2003 4. Word 2003 or older to 2007 Ad 1. A lot of incompatibilities, especially related to PL version. Polish letters (ąćęłńóśćżź) converted to "US-eng" codetable equivalents. 2. Dropped support for diagrams creator. I had to recreate it from scratch. 3. New errors which resulted abends during typo-check. 4. Completely changed user interface with almost no new features. Very same functions need to searched. Other "features": suddenly dropped support for Word 2.0 files. You even cannot open it! suddenly dropped support for RTF files. suddenly dropped/changed plugins like Equation Editors, etc. changed functions like indexing, styles, contents, etc. etc. suddenly dropped/revolutionized pictures embedded (not bitmaps, just drawings like squares, circles, arrows, etc. ) This is only part of "advantages" mostly related to Word. Hints: 1. Don't try to use advanced features if you really can avoid it. 2. Open all your documents and all the features like drawings or embedded objects. 3. If you can simply keep your old version! Yes, you can still have your ancient version of Office on you PC. Just use VirtualBox or other hypervisor and keep one or few virtual machines. Check your license terms, but if you had older version then usually you did not lost the license. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems
I worked for an health insurance company. As another poster said, “that's how all insurance companies function. there's a reason why they're often compared to a legalized mafia.” I’m curious as to why you guys can’t seem to ignore the troll? Or create some filter that you guys mentioned was easy. Or even listen to Darren? And why do the same guys complain about the troll? The ones who seem to think their constant reminiscing about the good old mainframe days is relevant? Like I said previously, there are thousands of mainframe people who don’t post, probably aren’t even registered, likely not even aware of the list. It has degenerated into 20-30 guys (and it’s mostly guys) who need to show how much they think they know. Posting the same drivel over and over. Of all the shops I’ve worked and all the people I worked with over 40+ years, there aren’t 5 people who even care to subscribe. It’s more like a frat club. And I’m unwilling to perform the hazing. And if the troll was banned, who is to say he/she doesn’t have 4 other accounts? Is the list that technically robust a user can actually be stopped from posting? Is there a TOS? Some of us joined when Marist College (I think) hosted it. It’s a slippery slope when freedom of speech is squelched. Especially when the entity is a government run, taxpayer funded institution. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, August 15, 2023, 1:34 PM, Pommier, Rex wrote: The troll who said he would stop commenting on here a few months ago? My vote would be to have his account tagged as restricted from posting. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2023 7:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems Classification: Confidential To all, Stop feeding the troll and maybe he'll go away ::DISCLAIMER:: The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain viruses in transmission. The e mail and its contents (with or without referred errors) shall therefore not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. Views or opinions, if any, presented in this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of HCL or its affiliates. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without the prior written consent of authorized representative of HCL is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender immediately. Before opening any email and/or attachments, please check them for viruses and other defects. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution, copying, or any action taken or action omitted in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems
Not the way I'd go. If for my sins I were made king of the list, I'd be more King Log than King Stork. Off-topic doesn't bother me, and it would take a lot to get me to ban any poster. But I wouldn't mind deleting individual posts that are deliberately derisive, denigrating or insulting. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If you have a problem with me, text me. And if you don't have my number, you don't know me well enough to have a problem with me. -Christian Bale */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 13:34 The troll who said he would stop commenting on here a few months ago? My vote would be to have his account tagged as restricted from posting. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2023 7:16 AM Stop feeding the troll and maybe he'll go away -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: BLDL User Data
On a PDSE a binder of IEFBR14 with alias BR14 then bind of IEFBR14 no alias and BR14 alias was gone. Use 3.1 on the real member of first bind of IEFBR14 removed alias. Didn’t try to see what happens with 3.1 delete of alias. PDSE orphaning of alias appears to be addressed at least in ISPF and binder. 3.1 on PDS to delete real member leaves alias of BR14 as does above binder test on PDS. Alias points at previous IEFBR14 TTR such that TTR of new IEFBR14 is different than orphaned BR14. All run on z/OS 2.5. > On Aug 19, 2023, at 6:08 PM, Paul Gilmartin > <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 17:14:41 -0500, Dave Kreiss wrote: > >> ... If the real member is deleted but not all alias(s), those alias(s) are >> orphaned member(s) but the tensing member(s) data (load module) still exist. >> > Did that change with PDSE? > > -- > gil > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN