Re: Rexx to clone users in RACF

2023-11-21 Thread Peter
Cloning  and creating one user is easy but

I want to clone and create 10 userid at once .

Is it possible to achieve it through DBSNC.?

On Fri, Nov 17, 2023, 11:20 PM Walt Farrell  wrote:

> IBM used to, and may still, supply an unofficial REXX exec that I wrote
> named DBSYNC. One of its operational modes allows cloning a user, though I
> don't recall if that is described in the documentation or only anecdotally
> on RACF-L. And I have no idea where such tools & toys are distributed
> today, but someone on RACF-L could probably provide more information.
>
> (And, arguably, RACF-L is a better place for a discussion about cloning
> RACF users than ibm-main, in my opinion :) )
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Re: Rexx to clone users in RACF

2023-11-21 Thread Gibney, Dave
I had a Rexx that matched user (well any string actually) and extracted the 
records from an unload. Then fed them to DBSYNC with an empty compare file. The 
generated commands were usually close to what I wanted.

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> Cloning  and creating one user is easy but
> 
> I want to clone and create 10 userid at once .
> 
> Is it possible to achieve it through DBSNC.?
> 
> On Fri, Nov 17, 2023, 11:20 PM Walt Farrell  wrote:
> 
> > IBM used to, and may still, supply an unofficial REXX exec that I
> > wrote named DBSYNC. One of its operational modes allows cloning a
> > user, though I don't recall if that is described in the documentation
> > or only anecdotally on RACF-L. And I have no idea where such tools &
> > toys are distributed today, but someone on RACF-L could probably provide
> more information.
> >
> > (And, arguably, RACF-L is a better place for a discussion about
> > cloning RACF users than ibm-main, in my opinion :) )
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How to download PERL from rocket

2023-11-21 Thread ITschak Mugzach
I am trying to download Perl from Rocket, but when clicking "download Now"
I get a screen "Rocket Open Source for z/os" without a download link. Any
idea how to download Perl for z/os?

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Re: AI System Services on z/OS 3.1 - is a CF really mandatory?

2023-11-21 Thread Scott Chapman
I think the better question is why does EzNoSQL require RLS? Probably makes it 
easier because they don't have to handle different sharing issues, but it seems 
possible that some might be interested in using the EzNoSQL API from a single 
task without sharing implications. Of course I don't know how interested people 
are in general in EzNoSQL. 

Scott Chapman


On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 17:28:17 -0600, Peter Bishop  wrote:

>Also, given it's just SMF data being used here, surely there's a way for z/OS 
>to process that without VSAM RLS and EzNoSQL (?).  Perhaps they are using 
>"ported" code, i.e. not native to z/OS, for the AI inferencing part and hence 
>must have EzNoSQL and thus VSAM RLS.

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Re: AI System Services on z/OS 3.1 - is a CF really mandatory?

2023-11-21 Thread David Crayford
> On 21 Nov 2023, at 8:20 pm, Scott Chapman 
> <03fffd029d68-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
> I think the better question is why does EzNoSQL require RLS? Probably makes 
> it easier because they don't have to handle different sharing issues, but it 
> seems possible that some might be interested in using the EzNoSQL API from a 
> single task without sharing implications.

I haven’t used it but from reading the brief docs EzNoSQL is a z/OS 
implementation of a key/value JSON document store that uses VSAM KSDS as the 
store. It’s similar to MongoDB or SAP HANA in functionality which are both 
hugely popular on distributed systems. The marketing materials mention using 
Sysplex for consistency and performance. MongoDB, Aerospike, SAP HANA etc all 
have huge in-memory caches for scalability. EzNoSQL uses Sysplex services to 
implement a straight-through cache and persistent storage that can scale 
horizontally. IBM makes a point of stating that there are no programming 
requirements to handle eventual consistency which can be an issue with 
distributed systems that adhere to the CAP theorem. 

> Of course I don't know how interested people are in general in EzNoSQL.

It looks decent but IBM needs to provide better documentation. 

> 
> Scott Chapman
> 
> 
> On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 17:28:17 -0600, Peter Bishop  
> wrote:
> 
>> Also, given it's just SMF data being used here, surely there's a way for 
>> z/OS to process that without VSAM RLS and EzNoSQL (?).  Perhaps they are 
>> using "ported" code, i.e. not native to z/OS, for the AI inferencing part 
>> and hence must have EzNoSQL and thus VSAM RLS.
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Re: How to download PERL from rocket

2023-11-21 Thread Jousma, David
You have to install Rockets miniconda I was lamenting a week or two ago.   It 
is the installer for all their ported opensource packages.   Or, if that is not 
important to you can go directly here, and download the tarball, and manually 
install yourself.   https://anaconda.org/zoss-appdev



Dave Jousma
Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering





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Subject: How to download PERL from rocket
I am trying to download Perl from Rocket, but when clicking "download Now" I 
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how to download Perl for z/os? ITschak ITschak Mugzach *|** IronSphere 
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I am trying to download Perl from Rocket, but when clicking "download Now"

I get a screen "Rocket Open Source for z/os" without a download link. Any

idea how to download Perl for z/os?



ITschak



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Re: AI System Services on z/OS 3.1 - is a CF really mandatory?

2023-11-21 Thread Tony Thigpen

What is required to set up a CF LPAR? Is there a document I can look at?

Tony Thigpen

Scott Chapman wrote on 11/20/23 9:01 AM:

Just to add to the point about "or general purpose engine". A CF LPAR doing 
relatively little activity for a non-critical work can run just fine on a shared GP 
engine, assuming you have some available capacity. The CF LPARs don't generally consume 
much CPU, if they're not being driven by intensive data sharing.

Unlike ~30 years ago when sysplex first came out, things like thin interrupts 
and sub-capacity pricing as well as faster CPUs means that it is plausible 
today to run CF LPARs on GPs. The most extreme case I've seen has 3 z/OS LPARs 
and 2 CF LPARs running on a single sub-capacity engine. Obviously a very small 
environment, and not a configuration I'd recommend, but it functions.

But I do think there might be performance advantages available to some 
customers who don't have CF LPARs defined today if they just would stand up a 
small CF LPAR running on a GP. But it requires some effort to configure and 
manage.

Scott Chapman

On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 06:32:08 +, Timothy Sipples  wrote:


The z/OS AI Framework requires EzNoSQL, EzNoSQL requires VSAM Record-Level 
Sharing (RLS), and VSAM RLS requires a Coupling Facility (internal or external) 
running on either a CF or general purpose engine.


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