3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-03-31 Thread MARTIN, MIKE
All,

We have a  z114 and are upgrading to Windows 7.  Is anyone using a 3270 
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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-03-31 Thread Pommier, Rex
We're using Passport.  My last site used Rumba.

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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-03-31 Thread Wissink, Brad [ITSYS]
Using VistaTN3270 from Tom Brennan.   Works great, no complaints.

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We have a  z114 and are upgrading to Windows 7.  Is anyone using a 3270 
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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-03-31 Thread Chase, John
Bluezone.

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> We're using Passport.  My last site used Rumba.
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> All,
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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-03-31 Thread Staller, Allan
Rumba 7.5 (vintage circa 2006). I presume new versions will also work.

YMMV,


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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-03-31 Thread Tim Brown
Vista  from Tom Brennan  Software works great!

Tim

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Rumba 7.5 (vintage circa 2006). I presume new versions will also work.

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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-03-31 Thread Gibney, Dave
We are successfully using QWS3270

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AW: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-03-31 Thread Christian Birr
Vista TN3270 from Tom Brennan will be your friend, it's great. I use it for 
"ages" now. Support is perfect, and after all, it is not expensive and does 
more, then one would expect. Just try it.
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We have a  z114 and are upgrading to Windows 7.  Is anyone using a 3270 
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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-03-31 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Mar 31, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Gibney, Dave  wrote:

> We are successfully using QWS3270

So are we. For non-Windows (although a Windows version is available), but on my 
Mac I use x3270 (http://x3270.bgp.nu).

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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-03-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 18:51:47 +, MARTIN, MIKE wrote:
>
>We have a  z114 and are upgrading to Windows 7.  Is anyone using a 3270 
>emulator other than PCOMM for their OSA-ICC console functions.
> 
Hmmm...  Having read much of this thread, I surmise the SNR would be higher
if contibutors reported only emulators that _don't_ work.  Any at all?

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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-03-31 Thread Roger W. Suhr
VistaTN3270 from Tom Brennan is a nice low cost product!
I love to work with it on my Hercules - MVS system

Roger

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Using VistaTN3270 from Tom Brennan.   Works great, no complaints.

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All,

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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-03-31 Thread Timothy Sipples
Mike Martin wrote:
>...for their OSA-ICC console functions...

This part of Mike's question is important. As a general statement, and
according to an IBM redbook on OSA-ICC, the chosen emulator must faithfully
support the following TN3270E (RFC 2355) functions:

- the ability to request a specific LU or pool name;
- access to the SNA bind information;
- handling of SNA positive and negative responses;
- universal support for the 3270 ATTN and SYSREQ keys;
- support for emulation of 328x class printers.

These capabilities have been around for many years now, so there are
probably a number of terminal emulation software products that properly
implement these features. Nonetheless it'd be nice if there's specific
OSA-ICC interoperability testing and mention of that testing in the
product's documentation.


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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-01 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2014-03-31 20:51, MARTIN, MIKE pisze:

All,

We have a  z114 and are upgrading to Windows 7.  Is anyone using a 3270 
emulator other than PCOMM for their OSA-ICC console functions.


Good, but expensive: PCOMM (6.x version required)
Cheap, small and very fast: Nexus
Free: x3270




BTW2: Does anyone know any 3270 emulator which don't support OSA-ICC 
connections correctly?
Let's narrow it to Linux and Windows platform (read: omit Symbian, 
Android, iOS, etc.) if it changes anything ;-)


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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-01 Thread Lutz Hamann
On our site here Attachmate Extra!Xtreme 9.x is used as TN3270 Emulator for 
OSC-devices.


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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-01 Thread Govind Chettiar
On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 18:51:47 +, MARTIN, MIKE  wrote:

>All,
>
>We have a  z114 and are upgrading to Windows 7.  Is anyone using a 3270 
>emulator other than PCOMM for their OSA-ICC console functions.
>
>Mike Martin
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Reflection/Attachmate

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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-01 Thread Bill Widmayer
We use Attachmate Extra Extreme 9.1, works fine, also expensive.



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W dniu 2014-03-31 20:51, MARTIN, MIKE pisze:
> All,
>
> We have a  z114 and are upgrading to Windows 7.  Is anyone using a 3270 
> emulator other than PCOMM for their OSA-ICC console functions.

Good, but expensive: PCOMM (6.x version required) Cheap, small and very fast: 
Nexus
Free: x3270




BTW2: Does anyone know any 3270 emulator which don't support OSA-ICC 
connections correctly?
Let's narrow it to Linux and Windows platform (read: omit Symbian, Android, 
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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-01 Thread Duffy Nightingale, SSPI
I've used qws3270 from Jolly Giant for eons.  No problems.  Everything seems
intuitive.

Take care guys,


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We use Attachmate Extra Extreme 9.1, works fine, also expensive.



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W dniu 2014-03-31 20:51, MARTIN, MIKE pisze:
> All,
>
> We have a  z114 and are upgrading to Windows 7.  Is anyone using a 3270
emulator other than PCOMM for their OSA-ICC console functions.

Good, but expensive: PCOMM (6.x version required) Cheap, small and very
fast: Nexus
Free: x3270




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connections correctly?
Let's narrow it to Linux and Windows platform (read: omit Symbian, Android,
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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-02 Thread Ward, Mike S
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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-02 Thread Lou D'Agnolo

We use BlueZone from Rocket.


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We have a  z114 and are upgrading to Windows 7.  Is anyone using a 3270 
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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-02 Thread Govind Chettiar
On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 07:40:37 -0500, Govind Chettiar  wrote:

>On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 18:51:47 +, MARTIN, MIKE  
>wrote:
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>>All,
>>
>>We have a  z114 and are upgrading to Windows 7.  Is anyone using a 3270 
>>emulator other than PCOMM for their OSA-ICC console functions.
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There was a feature in Rumba that I can't seem to find in Reflection.  It would 
copy the whole screen to clipboard, page down, append to clipboard, keep doing 
it till the end of the dataset member or sysout or whatever.  You had to 
specify a string that would be on the last page and also the coordinates on 
each screen within which you wanted to copy.  Scarce a week passes w/o my 
wishing Reflection had the same feature.

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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-02 Thread Robert Heffner
x3270 on Linux.  Had initial setup issues with fonts and screen size, but works 
well.  Also have to remember to reboot Linux PC's after POR.

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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-02 Thread David Andrews
On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 13:00 -0500, Robert Heffner wrote:
> x3270 on Linux. [...] have to remember to reboot Linux PC's after POR.

What?  I *never* reboot, 'cepting when I've upgraded the kernel (Gentoo
Linux here).  Scusa, but I have to think you're swatting a housefly with
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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-02 Thread Thomas Berg
So far have these been mentioned:  

x3270
BlueZone from Rocket
Opentext Host Explorer
Attachmate Extra Extreme 9
Reflection/Attachmate
PCOMM
Nexus
VistaTN3270 from Tom Brennan
QWS3270 from Jolly Giant
Rumba 7.5
Passport



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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-02 Thread Harry Wahl
Mochasoft
Hummingbird
SDI's TN3270 Plus

> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 21:53:35 +0200
> From: thomas.b...@swedbank.se
> Subject: Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> 
> So far have these been mentioned:  
> 
> x3270
> BlueZone from Rocket
> Opentext Host Explorer
> Attachmate Extra Extreme 9
> Reflection/Attachmate
> PCOMM
> Nexus
> VistaTN3270 from Tom Brennan
> QWS3270 from Jolly Giant
> Rumba 7.5
> Passport
> 
> 
> 
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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-02 Thread Scott Ford
Here's another one ..


http://www.emtec.com/zoc/tn3270-terminal-emulation.html

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> On Apr 2, 2014, at 10:09 PM, Harry Wahl  wrote:
> 
> Mochasoft
> Hummingbird
> SDI's TN3270 Plus
> 
>> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 21:53:35 +0200
>> From: thomas.b...@swedbank.se
>> Subject: Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> 
>> So far have these been mentioned:  
>> 
>> x3270
>> BlueZone from Rocket
>> Opentext Host Explorer
>> Attachmate Extra Extreme 9
>> Reflection/Attachmate
>> PCOMM
>> Nexus
>> VistaTN3270 from Tom Brennan
>> QWS3270 from Jolly Giant
>> Rumba 7.5
>> Passport
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-03 Thread Thomas Berg
So far have these been mentioned:

 x3270
BlueZone from Rocket
Opentext Host Explorer
Attachmate Extra Extreme 9
Reflection/Attachmate
PCOMM
Nexus
VistaTN3270 from Tom Brennan
QWS3270 from Jolly Giant
Rumba 7.5
Passport
SDI's TN3270 Plus
Hummingbird
Mochasoft
ZOC Terminal from EmTec:  
http://www.emtec.com/zoc/tn3270-terminal-emulation.html



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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-03 Thread Harry Wahl
HOBLink
(Sorry forgot about it on my prior post)

> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 16:41:40 +0200
> From: thomas.b...@swedbank.se
> Subject: Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> 
> So far have these been mentioned:
> 
>  x3270
> BlueZone from Rocket
> Opentext Host Explorer
> Attachmate Extra Extreme 9
> Reflection/Attachmate
> PCOMM
> Nexus
> VistaTN3270 from Tom Brennan
> QWS3270 from Jolly Giant
> Rumba 7.5
> Passport
> SDI's TN3270 Plus
> Hummingbird
> Mochasoft
> ZOC Terminal from EmTec:  
> http://www.emtec.com/zoc/tn3270-terminal-emulation.html
> 
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-03 Thread Thomas Berg
So far have these been mentioned:

 x3270
BlueZone from Rocket
Opentext Host Explorer
Attachmate Extra Extreme 9
Reflection/Attachmate
PCOMM
Nexus
VistaTN3270 from Tom Brennan
QWS3270 from Jolly Giant
Rumba 7.5
Passport
SDI's TN3270 Plus
Hummingbird
Mochasoft
ZOC Terminal from EmTec:  
http://www.emtec.com/zoc/tn3270-terminal-emulation.html
HOBLink



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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-04 Thread R.S.

The question is what about OSA-ICC support.
I suspect some responders just gave emulator product name they 
know/like/use, not *emulator which was tested with ICC*.
From the other hand it seems unlikely to not support ICC, since there 
is no big difference between ICC and "regular" TN3270.


My €0.02

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So far have these been mentioned:

  x3270
BlueZone from Rocket
Opentext Host Explorer
Attachmate Extra Extreme 9
Reflection/Attachmate
PCOMM
Nexus
VistaTN3270 from Tom Brennan
QWS3270 from Jolly Giant
Rumba 7.5
Passport
SDI's TN3270 Plus
Hummingbird
Mochasoft
ZOC Terminal from EmTec:  
http://www.emtec.com/zoc/tn3270-terminal-emulation.html
HOBLink



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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-04 Thread Dana Mitchell
The thing that made us upgrade from a 20th century version of Rhumba for OSA 
ICC usage was that it did not support LUNAME and TN3270E.  Relatively 'new' 
features at the time,  but judging from the length of the list of emulators in 
this thread,  these features are commonplace now.

Dana 


On Fri, 4 Apr 2014 09:46:16 +0200, R.S.  wrote:

The question is what about OSA-ICC support.
I suspect some responders just gave emulator product name they 
know/like/use, not *emulator which was tested with ICC*.
 From the other hand it seems unlikely to not support ICC, since there 
is no big difference between ICC and "regular" TN3270.

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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-04 Thread Thomas Berg
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> On Behalf Of R.S.
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 9:46 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles
> 
> The question is what about OSA-ICC support.
> I suspect some responders just gave emulator product name they
> know/like/use, not *emulator which was tested with ICC*.
>  From the other hand it seems unlikely to not support ICC, since there
> is no big difference between ICC and "regular" TN3270.
> 
> Radoslaw Skorupka
> Lodz, Poland

I doing this to get a picture of the 3270 emulator market.  I'm surprised that 
there are that many vendors.   

So far have these been mentioned (sorted):

Attachmate Extra Extreme 9
BlueZone from Rocket
HOBLink
Hummingbird
Mochasoft
Nexus
Opentext Host Explorer
Passport
PCOMM
QWS3270 from Jolly Giant
Reflection/Attachmate
Rumba 7.5
SDI's TN3270 Plus
VistaTN3270 from Tom Brennan
x3270
ZOC Terminal from EmTec:  
http://www.emtec.com/zoc/tn3270-terminal-emulation.html



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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 21:53:35 +0200, Thomas Berg  wrote:

>So far have these been mentioned:  
>
>x3270
>BlueZone from Rocket
>Opentext Host Explorer
>Attachmate Extra Extreme 9
>Reflection/Attachmate
>PCOMM
>Nexus
>VistaTN3270 from Tom Brennan
>QWS3270 from Jolly Giant
>Rumba 7.5
>Passport
>

Another one I use and may be my favorite next to Vista TN3270 is TN3270 Plus
from SDI:  http://www.sdisw.com/tn3270/

I need to use it for accessing some sites (like IBM Dallas RDP) because Vista
doesn't support certificates.  

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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-04 Thread Staller, Allan
In my response (RUMBA 7.5 and newer), I was referring to the emulator actually 
*IN USE* for OSA/ICC consoles.


The question is what about OSA-ICC support.
I suspect some responders just gave emulator product name they know/like/use, 
not *emulator which was tested with ICC*.
W dniu 2014-04-03 17:44, Thomas Berg pisze:
> So far have these been mentioned:
>
>   x3270
> BlueZone from Rocket
> Opentext Host Explorer
> Attachmate Extra Extreme 9
> Reflection/Attachmate
> PCOMM
> Nexus
> VistaTN3270 from Tom Brennan
> QWS3270 from Jolly Giant
> Rumba 7.5
> Passport
> SDI's TN3270 Plus
> Hummingbird
> Mochasoft
> ZOC Terminal from EmTec:  
> http://www.emtec.com/zoc/tn3270-terminal-emulation.html
> HOBLink


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FW: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-04 Thread Thomas Berg
For any interested in 3270 emulators:  so far have these been mentioned 
(sorted):

Attachmate Extra Extreme 9
BlueZone  --  from Rocket
HOBLink
Hummingbird
Mochasoft
Nexus
Opentext Host Explorer
Passport  --  from Zephyr Corporation  
PCOMM  --  from IBM 
QWS3270  --  from Jolly Giant
Reflection/Attachmate
Rumba 7.5
TN3270 Plus  --  from SDI
tn3270 X  --  for the Macintosh by Peter DiCamillo:  
http://www.brown.edu/cis/tn3270/ 
VistaTN3270  --  from Tom Brennan
x3270
ZOC Terminal  -- from EmTec:  
http://www.emtec.com/zoc/tn3270-terminal-emulation.html



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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-04 Thread Pommier, Rex
My addition of Passport to the list was specifically in response to the OSA-ICC 
request.  We're using it for both ICC and standard TN3270 usage.

Rex

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The question is what about OSA-ICC support.
I suspect some responders just gave emulator product name they 
know/like/use, not *emulator which was tested with ICC*.
 From the other hand it seems unlikely to not support ICC, since there 
is no big difference between ICC and "regular" TN3270.

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> So far have these been mentioned:
>
>   x3270
> BlueZone from Rocket
> Opentext Host Explorer
> Attachmate Extra Extreme 9
> Reflection/Attachmate
> PCOMM
> Nexus
> VistaTN3270 from Tom Brennan
> QWS3270 from Jolly Giant
> Rumba 7.5
> Passport
> SDI's TN3270 Plus
> Hummingbird
> Mochasoft
> ZOC Terminal from EmTec:  
> http://www.emtec.com/zoc/tn3270-terminal-emulation.html
> HOBLink
>
>
>
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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-04 Thread R.S.

Well, I didn't suspect any actual person or product.
Actually ...that was me. I provided 3 products but x3270 is the one I 
have never used with ICC.  ;-)

Mea culpa.
As an excuse I could say it doesn't cost to much to check it - x3270 is 
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W dniu 2014-04-04 17:28, Pommier, Rex pisze:

My addition of Passport to the list was specifically in response to the OSA-ICC 
request.  We're using it for both ICC and standard TN3270 usage.

Rex

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The question is what about OSA-ICC support.
I suspect some responders just gave emulator product name they
know/like/use, not *emulator which was tested with ICC*.
  From the other hand it seems unlikely to not support ICC, since there
is no big difference between ICC and "regular" TN3270.

My €0.02





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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-04 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Apr 4, 2014, at 1:12 PM, R.S.  wrote:

> As an excuse I could say it doesn't cost to much to check it - x3270 is free.

It does work with ICC–in fact, I’m using it right now.

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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-06 Thread Richards, Robert B.
IBM's Host On Demand

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Subject: FW: 3270 Emulators and consoles

For any interested in 3270 emulators:  so far have these been mentioned 
(sorted):

Attachmate Extra Extreme 9
BlueZone  --  from Rocket
HOBLink
Hummingbird
Mochasoft
Nexus
Opentext Host Explorer
Passport  --  from Zephyr Corporation
PCOMM  --  from IBM
QWS3270  --  from Jolly Giant
Reflection/Attachmate
Rumba 7.5
TN3270 Plus  --  from SDI
tn3270 X  --  for the Macintosh by Peter DiCamillo:  
http://www.brown.edu/cis/tn3270/
VistaTN3270  --  from Tom Brennan
x3270
ZOC Terminal  -- from EmTec:  
http://www.emtec.com/zoc/tn3270-terminal-emulation.html



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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-06 Thread Ed Finnell
Made a spreadsheet to get us started but can't remember how to get .csv  
into AOL. Always comes out as txt with no commas?
 
 
In a message dated 4/6/2014 7:58:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
robert.richa...@opm.gov writes:

IBM's  Host On Demand



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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-07 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2014-04-06 14:57, Richards, Robert B. pisze:

IBM's Host On Demand
AFAIK Host On Demand is some kind of 3270 in web browser, served by HTTP 
server on z/OS (with some FMID installed).

If the above is correct, then how could you use it for IPL ?

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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-07 Thread Richards, Robert B.
We don't. We use PCOMM. :-)

But we do use HoD as a web to host 3270 emulator.

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W dniu 2014-04-06 14:57, Richards, Robert B. pisze:
> IBM's Host On Demand
AFAIK Host On Demand is some kind of 3270 in web browser, served by HTTP server 
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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-07 Thread Pommier, Rex
Radoslaw,

Yes, HOD is a browser-based 3270 emulator, but it doesn't need to be hosted via 
IHS on the mainframe.  At a prior job it was hosted on a Windows server.

Rex

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W dniu 2014-04-06 14:57, Richards, Robert B. pisze:
> IBM's Host On Demand
AFAIK Host On Demand is some kind of 3270 in web browser, served by HTTP 
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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-07 Thread Ward, Mike S
We use Host Explorer as ICC Consoles. Works great.  

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The question is what about OSA-ICC support.
I suspect some responders just gave emulator product name they know/like/use, 
not *emulator which was tested with ICC*.
 From the other hand it seems unlikely to not support ICC, since there is no 
big difference between ICC and "regular" TN3270.

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> So far have these been mentioned:
>
>   x3270
> BlueZone from Rocket
> Opentext Host Explorer
> Attachmate Extra Extreme 9
> Reflection/Attachmate
> PCOMM
> Nexus
> VistaTN3270 from Tom Brennan
> QWS3270 from Jolly Giant
> Rumba 7.5
> Passport
> SDI's TN3270 Plus
> Hummingbird
> Mochasoft
> ZOC Terminal from EmTec:  
> http://www.emtec.com/zoc/tn3270-terminal-emulation.html
> HOBLink
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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <534273d9.8080...@bremultibank.com.pl>, on 04/07/2014
   at 11:46 AM, "R.S."  said:

>AFAIK Host On Demand is some kind of 3270 in web browser, served by
>HTTP server on z/OS (with some FMID installed).

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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-07 Thread Timothy Sipples
Yes, both IBM Personal Communications and IBM Host On-Demand are OSA-ICC
compliant clients.

A brief word about licensing. If you license IBM Personal Communications
you also license IBM Host On-Demand. IBM combined the licenses into one
package several years ago. Here are the package options:

1. IBM Host Access Client Package (HACP), a license that includes both
Personal Communications and Host On-Demand.

2. IBM Host Integration Solution (HIS), a license that includes even more
products.

There are also "for IBM i" subset licenses available as well if you are
only going to be using Personal Communications and/or Host On-Demand with
IBM i servers.


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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-08 Thread Thomas Berg
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> On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
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> In <534273d9.8080...@bremultibank.com.pl>, on 04/07/2014
>at 11:46 AM, "R.S."  said:
> 
> >AFAIK Host On Demand is some kind of 3270 in web browser, served by
> >HTTP server on z/OS (with some FMID installed).
> 
> No; you instal it from a web server, but after that it runs locally.

Does that mean it communicates with z/OS in the same way as e g PCOMM ?



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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-08 Thread Timothy Sipples
Shmuel Metz writes:
>No; you install it [HOD] from a web server, but after that it
>runs locally.

Yes, that's one very popular option. Local, "traditional" client
installation is also possible on certain platforms.


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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-08 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2014-04-08 08:28, Timothy Sipples pisze:

Shmuel Metz writes:

No; you install it [HOD] from a web server, but after that it
runs locally.

Yes, that's one very popular option. Local, "traditional" client
installation is also possible on certain platforms.
What about HMC? Are there plans to restore at least some features lost 
with OS/2 -> Linux transition?
Hint: AFAIK built in x3270 clone does not support LUNAME, so it doesn't 
support OSA-ICC sessions.

And no, I don't mean VM-like console support AFAIK available since z/OS 2.1


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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-08 Thread Edgard Balter Jr.
The x3270 package abstract says

"x3270 implements RFCs 2355 (TN3270E), 1576 (TN3270), and 1646 (LU name 
selection), and supports IND$FILE file transfer"

Indeed, from the command line, I just started a session typing:

x3270 zlun0...@172.31.xxx.xxx:port 

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08/04/2014 12:34:52:

> De: R.S. 
> Para: 
> Data: 08/04/2014 12:35
> Assunto: Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles
> Enviado por: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> 
> W dniu 2014-04-08 08:28, Timothy Sipples pisze:
> > Shmuel Metz writes:
> >> No; you install it [HOD] from a web server, but after that it
> >> runs locally.
> > Yes, that's one very popular option. Local, "traditional" client
> > installation is also possible on certain platforms.
> What about HMC? Are there plans to restore at least some features lost 
> with OS/2 -> Linux transition?
> Hint: AFAIK built in x3270 clone does not support LUNAME, so it doesn't 
> support OSA-ICC sessions.
> And no, I don't mean VM-like console support AFAIK available since z/OS 
2.1
> 
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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
,
on 04/08/2014
   at 11:02 AM, Thomas Berg  said:

>Does that mean it communicates with z/OS in the same way as e g 
>PCOMM ?

I believe that HOD is TN3270 only while PCOMM still has other options.
 
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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-04-11 Thread Thomas Berg
Ok.  I just wondered if HOD did something unusual, like communicated  to a 
"http" server at the mainframe that in turn communicated with tso the "usual" 
way (-->VTAM-->TSO etc.). 



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> I believe that HOD is TN3270 only while PCOMM still has other options.
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Re: AW: 3270 Emulators and consoles

2014-03-31 Thread dr.rick.willi...@gmail.com
I must agree .. GREAT product

Dr. Rick Williams 
 
 
 
 
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From: Christian Birr
Date: 3/31/2014 3:56:54 PM
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Subject: AW: 3270 Emulators and consoles
 
Vista TN3270 from Tom Brennan will be your friend, it's great. I use it for 
ages" now. Support is perfect, and after all, it is not expensive and does
more, then one would expect. Just try it.
Christian
 
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All,
 
We have a  z114 and are upgrading to Windows 7.  Is anyone using a 3270
emulator other than PCOMM for their OSA-ICC console functions.
 
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3270 Emulators and consoles and SSL

2014-04-04 Thread Gibney, Dave


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> On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 21:53:35 +0200, Thomas Berg
>  wrote:
> 
> >So far have these been mentioned:
> >
> >x3270
> >BlueZone from Rocket
> >Opentext Host Explorer
> >Attachmate Extra Extreme 9
> >Reflection/Attachmate
> >PCOMM
> >Nexus
> >VistaTN3270 from Tom Brennan
> >QWS3270 from Jolly Giant
> >Rumba 7.5
> >Passport
> >
> 
> Another one I use and may be my favorite next to Vista TN3270 is TN3270
> Plus
> from SDI:  http://www.sdisw.com/tn3270/
> 
> I need to use it for accessing some sites (like IBM Dallas RDP) because Vista
> doesn't support certificates.
> 
I thought I read here that SSL capability was added to Vista within the last 
few (several) years. I haven't used it myself as we have always been happy 
enough with QWS
Like many of the others, there is an old free version and new pay for version. 
The SSL is a pay for feature, but not unreasonable

As for an unreasonably priced product, I will mention Entire Connection from 
Software AG. I don't know if it works with ICC but also have no reason to doubt 
it would. 

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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles and SSL

2014-04-04 Thread R.S.

SSL support is not Yes/No. It's also certificate management.

Some emulators rely on system (Windows) certificates, others maintain 
their own cert repository (PCOMM do both).
However some products I know simply ask whether to accept the 
certificate and remember users decision. (Nexus).

It can be unacceptable for some organizations.

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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles and SSL

2014-04-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 4 Apr 2014 18:28:11 +, Gibney, Dave  wrote:

Mark Zelden wrote:

>> Another one I use and may be my favorite next to Vista TN3270 is TN3270 
>> Plus 
>>from SDI:  http://www.sdisw.com/tn3270/ 
>>
>> I need to use it for accessing some sites (like IBM Dallas RDP) because 
>> Vista 
>> doesn't support certificates. 
>>  

>I thought I read here that SSL capability was added to Vista within the last 
>few (several) years. I haven't used it myself as we have 
>always been happy enough with QWS 
>Like many of the others, there is an old free version and new pay for version. 
>The SSL is a pay for feature, but not unreasonable 
>
>As for an unreasonably priced product, I will mention Entire Connection from 
>Software AG. I don't know if it works with ICC but also
>have no reason to doubt it would.  

Vista Tn3270 does support SSL.  Just not client certificates.   As I told 
someone who emailed me off list,
I can get to guest z/OS systems with Vista, but not the RDP VM systems to 
activate the guest / IPL etc.

Mark
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Re: 3270 Emulators and consoles and SSL

2014-04-07 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 4 Apr 2014 13:57:38 -0500, Mark Zelden  wrote:


>
>Vista Tn3270 does support SSL.  Just not client certificates.   As I told 
>someone who emailed me off list,
>I can get to guest z/OS systems with Vista, but not the RDP VM systems to 
>activate the guest / IPL etc.
>

I was mistaken about this.   I even had a Vista session setup for Dallas VM 
from when I tested it
but forgot.  It's true that Vista doesn't support the client certs, but with 
SSL V3 enabled it
can get to the RDP VM just fine.  

Mark
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