Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In , on 04/18/2014
   at 07:20 PM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler  said:

>is this your work?
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen-Babcock

Nol my wiki id is Chatul.
 
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Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

[Ed Jaffe]

On 4/16/2014 1:12 PM, Eric Chevalier wrote:
Maybe not a BIG mainframe impact, but BASIC certainly had it's place 
in the mainframe sun, starting with VS BASIC, program product 
5748-XX1. Between 1979 and 1981 I worked for Ryan-McFarland, 
developers of RM-BASIC, RM-FORTRAN and RM-COBOL. My last project at 
RMC was to help port RM-BASIC to both VM and OS/MVS. I left before the 
project was completed, but it did eventually come to market as 
BASIC/VM (Program Number 5668-996) and BASIC/MVS (Program Number 
5665-948).


My very first programming language was BASIC on a mainframe (under CALL/OS).

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Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

[Anne & Lynn Wheeler]

shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz  , Seymour J.) writes:
> Wasn't CPS a rebranded RUSH?

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#74 Another Golden Anniversary - 
Dartmouth BASIC

is this your work?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen-Babcock

pg20 "RUSH as a PL/I Subset"
http://www.iron-spring.com/PLI_Bulletins/PLI_Bulletin_4.pdf

and this: Conversational Programming System
http://home.uchicago.edu/~rthielen/cps.html

from above:

"Conversational Programming System is a time-sharing system that runs in
a partition of OS/360 Release 17 MFT II or MVT. The CPS language is a
conversational dialect of PL/I and includes a modified subset of the
BASIC language of IBM CALL/360. The system also provides Remote Job
Entry to batch processing and Remote Job Output to a designated terminal
from a dataset designated by any batch job." (This was hot stuff!)

... snip ...

Call/360 terminal reference guide
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/360/os/call_360/CALL_360_Terminal_Reference_Manual_Sep69.pdf

1968 ...
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/dpd50/dpd50_chronology3.html

The Information Marketing Department is transferred on October 22 from
the Data Processing Division to IBM's Service Bureau Corporation. The
department is responsible for marketing QUIKTRAN, as well as the
company's new CALL/360 time sharing subscriber services, BASIC and
DATATEXT.

... snip ...

at the time the cp67 group takes over the IBM Boston programming center
on the 3rd flr ... Jean Sammet was part of the group
http://computer.org/computer-pioneers/sammet.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_E._Sammet
as well as nat rochester
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_Rochester_%28computer_scientist%29

trivia ... further expansion of the vm370 group ... they eventually
outgrow the 3rd flr (they only had part of the 3rd flr, the other
occupant was listed in bldg. directory as a law firm, however the telco
closet was on the ibm side and it clearly listed the other occupant as
certain 3letter gov. agency) ... and they move out to the vacant former
SBC bldg at burlington mall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_Bureau_Corporation

Jean Sammet and & Nat Rochester don't move out to Burlington.

posts mentioning 545 tech sq
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

recent posts mentioning burlington mall location:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#4 Application development paradigms [was: 
RE: Learning Rexx]
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#92 write rings
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#105 Happy 50th Birthday to the IBM 
Cambridge Scientific Center
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#16 23Jun1969 Unbundling Announcement
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#39 Before the Internet: The golden age 
of online services

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Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In , on 04/16/2014
   at 04:50 PM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler  said:

>IBM Boston programming center did CPS for os/360 supporting Basic and
>conversational PLI. 
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversational_Programming_System

Wasn't CPS a rebranded RUSH?
 
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Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

[David Andrews]

For those who might care to relive their youth (or for those youngsters
who'd like to see what the fuss was about) there is the DTSS emulator
project, described at:
http://dtss.dartmouth.edu/

The original DTSS was apparently built on a GE-235, which ran the BASIC
and ALGOL systems, and a Datanet-30 to handle telecommunications (and
presumably the SIMON CLI and line editor).  Six or seven years ago a
project was undertaken to revive DTSS from old listings; the listings
were transcribed into machine-readable form, an assembler was written in
TrueBASIC, and the resulting code run on a GE-235 emulator (also written
in TrueBASIC).

The simulator is available as Windows or Mac downloads.  John McGeachie
once maintained a web-based version, but it has been off the 'net for
several months and I don't know its status.

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Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

[Anne & Lynn Wheeler]

et...@tulsagrammer.com (Eric Chevalier) writes:
> Maybe not a BIG mainframe impact, but BASIC certainly had it's place
> in the mainframe sun, starting with VS BASIC, program product
> 5748-XX1. Between 1979 and 1981 I worked for Ryan-McFarland,
> developers of RM-BASIC, RM-FORTRAN and RM-COBOL. My last project at
> RMC was to help port RM-BASIC to both VM and OS/MVS. I left before the
> project was completed, but it did eventually come to market as
> BASIC/VM (Program Number 5668-996) and BASIC/MVS (Program Number
> 5665-948).

IBM Boston programming center did CPS for os/360 supporting Basic and
conversational PLI. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversational_Programming_System

Also had microcode assist for the 360/50. a lot was subcontracted out to
allen-babcock ... some old
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/allen-babcock/cps/CPS_Progress_Report_may66.pdf
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/allen-babcock/cps/raft_Eval_Microprogram_Mar66.pdf

I've mentioned before that CP67 group split off from science center (on
4th flr) ... and took over the ibm boston programming center on the 3rd
flr ... in the process of morphing into the vm370 group. misc. past
posts mentioning the science center
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

one of the former cps people even did a port to CMS.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#14 Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems 
Programmer (warning: Conley rant)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#8 OT: CPL on LCM systems [was Re: COBOL 
will outlive us all]

other past references
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008s.html#71 Is SUN going to become x86'ed ??
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#100 Indirect Bit
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012n.html#26 Is there a correspondence between 
64-bit IBM mainframes and PoOps editions levels?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#72 AMC proposes 1980s computer TV series 
"Halt & Catch Fire"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#36 Lisp machines, was What Makes an 
Architecture Bizarre?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#24 Teletypewriter Model 33
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013l.html#28 World's worst programming environment?

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Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

[Eric Chevalier]

On 4/9/14, 9:29 AM, John McKown wrote:

OK, not a big mainframe impact. But how many of us started programming by
using Basic on something like an Apple ][?

https://www.dartmouth.edu/basicfifty/


Maybe not a BIG mainframe impact, but BASIC certainly had it's place in 
the mainframe sun, starting with VS BASIC, program product 5748-XX1. 
Between 1979 and 1981 I worked for Ryan-McFarland, developers of 
RM-BASIC, RM-FORTRAN and RM-COBOL. My last project at RMC was to help 
port RM-BASIC to both VM and OS/MVS. I left before the project was 
completed, but it did eventually come to market as BASIC/VM (Program 
Number 5668-996) and BASIC/MVS (Program Number 5665-948).


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Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

[Barry Merrill]

Joel is correct, the G-15 was used at that time ONLY with the Differential 
Analyzer.  Hell, that prof couldn't pronounce digital correctly!

Barry

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On 04/11/2014 08:49 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
> In <00ce01cf5528$e52d0760$af871620$@mxg.com>, on 04/10/2014
>at 08:53 PM, Barry Merrill  said:
>
>>  As the EE Lab Professor (name now forgotten, but rather aged as I
>>  recall) finished the instructions for that lab project, he said "I  
>> have been instructed to read this note to all EE students", and  
>> picking up a one-page, dittoed notice, he continued "The IBM  
>> Corporation has donated a Model 610 digg-it-tal, er, digital,  
>> computer, located in room 240, and students can sign up for blocks  
>> of time to use it."  Slamming the sheet of paper face down, he  then 
>> said "those digital things will never amount to anything,  but next 
>> year, as Juniors, you will be able to go across the  hall to room 241 
>> and use the Bendix G15 Analog Computer - that's  how we Electrical 
>> Engineer's solve real problems!"
> Bendix G15 Analog Computer? Digital, Shirley. 
>  
The base G-15 was indeed digital, but when connected to one of its peripheral 
devices, the DA-1 Differential Analyzer, it took on the characteristics of a 
digital/analog hybrid, with programming based on integrators and multipliers 
like an analog computer.  If the EE Professor was convinced the G-15 was 
analog, it was probably always used with a DA-1 and he just didn't understand 
that the control functions of the system resided in a digital computer capable 
of independent operation and that the seemingly analog elements of the combined 
system were actually emulated digitally within the DA-1.

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Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

[John Gilmore]

Joel is quite right.

On of thr earliest 'serious' routines I wrote, circa 1950, was one
that permitted EE's to continue to indulge in the fiction that they
were still setting dials on pots/potentiometers in what was by then an
all-digital setting.

It made them happy for a time, but all or most of them shortly learned
to write code that called appropriate library subroutines, and some of
them learned to right the subroutines themselves.

John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

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Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

[Joel C. Ewing]

On 04/11/2014 08:49 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
> In <00ce01cf5528$e52d0760$af871620$@mxg.com>, on 04/10/2014
>at 08:53 PM, Barry Merrill  said:
>
>>  As the EE Lab Professor (name now forgotten, but rather aged as I
>>  recall) finished the instructions for that lab project, he said "I
>>  have been instructed to read this note to all EE students", and
>>  picking up a one-page, dittoed notice, he continued "The IBM
>>  Corporation has donated a Model 610 digg-it-tal, er, digital,
>>  computer, located in room 240, and students can sign up for blocks
>>  of time to use it."  Slamming the sheet of paper face down, he
>>  then said "those digital things will never amount to anything,
>>  but next year, as Juniors, you will be able to go across the
>>  hall to room 241 and use the Bendix G15 Analog Computer - that's
>>  how we Electrical Engineer's solve real problems!"
> Bendix G15 Analog Computer? Digital, Shirley. 
>  
The base G-15 was indeed digital, but when connected to one of its
peripheral devices, the DA-1 Differential Analyzer, it took on the
characteristics of a digital/analog hybrid, with programming based on
integrators and multipliers like an analog computer.  If the EE
Professor was convinced the G-15 was analog, it was probably always used
with a DA-1 and he just didn't understand that the control functions of
the system resided in a digital computer capable of independent
operation and that the seemingly analog elements of the combined system
were actually emulated digitally within the DA-1.

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Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <00ce01cf5528$e52d0760$af871620$@mxg.com>, on 04/10/2014
   at 08:53 PM, Barry Merrill  said:

>  As the EE Lab Professor (name now forgotten, but rather aged as I
>  recall) finished the instructions for that lab project, he said "I
>  have been instructed to read this note to all EE students", and
>  picking up a one-page, dittoed notice, he continued "The IBM
>  Corporation has donated a Model 610 digg-it-tal, er, digital,
>  computer, located in room 240, and students can sign up for blocks
>  of time to use it."  Slamming the sheet of paper face down, he
>  then said "those digital things will never amount to anything,
>  but next year, as Juniors, you will be able to go across the
>  hall to room 241 and use the Bendix G15 Analog Computer - that's
>  how we Electrical Engineer's solve real problems!"

Bendix G15 Analog Computer? Digital, Shirley. 
 
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Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

[Mike Schwab]

Newbie.  TRS-80 Model 1 16KB with cassette tape at high school.
Later, the first computer I bought was a used TRS-80 Model 4 with 3
5.25 in floppies.

On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Frank Swarbrick
 wrote:
> TRS-80 Model III for me.
>
>
>>
>> From: John McKown 
>>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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>>Subject: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC
>>
>>
>>OK, not a big mainframe impact. But how many of us started programming by
>>using Basic on something like an Apple ][?
>>
>>https://www.dartmouth.edu/basicfifty/
>>
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Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

[Roger W. Suhr]

Wow, 1959 I was 6 years old and just entering elementary school!

Roger

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IBM 610, paper tape input, Selectric output.



  In September, 1959, I was a sophomore at Notre Dame, taking EE 101,
  the basic Electrical Engineering Circuits course with class three days
  a week, and an associated Laboratory on Tuesdays.  The first week's
  Lab project had us measuring voltages and currents with many very old
  and some new meters, each with a different ohms-per-volt
  characteristic, comparing their accuracy, and we learned how to
  prepare a formal report of an experiment.  The second week's lab
  experiment was to calculate the value of the Determinant of a
  four-by-four matrix, primarily to show us the difference between
  engineering and math.  The corresponding math class we were all taking
  would have the professor show us by Cramer's Rule how to calculate the
  value of a linear system by dividing the determinant of matrix A by
  the determinant of B to get the blackboard answer
 X = [A] / [B]  = 7
  but this second week's lab project was to demonstrate that the actual
  work of an engineer would be to calculate each of those determinants,
  which involved a great deal of arithmetic and was not quite as simple
  as the Math Prof's immediate answer.

  As the EE Lab Professor (name now forgotten, but rather aged as I
  recall) finished the instructions for that lab project, he said "I
  have been instructed to read this note to all EE students", and
  picking up a one-page, dittoed notice, he continued "The IBM
  Corporation has donated a Model 610 digg-it-tal, er, digital,
  computer, located in room 240, and students can sign up for blocks of
  time to use it."  Slamming the sheet of paper face down, he then said
  "those digital things will never amount to anything, but next year, as
  Juniors, you will be able to go across the hall to room 241 and use
  the Bendix G15 Analog Computer - that's how we Electrical Engineer's
  solve real problems!"

  So I decided to investigate this IBM Digital Computer, and went to
  room 240, which was on the left at the end of the hall that opened to
  the very large lab with scores of motors and motor-generator that had
  its large doors open to the warm September afternoon.  I looked thru
  the small window in the door and saw a 3 foot high, 5 foot wide gray
  machine to the left of a table with a Selectric typewriter, and saw
  someone who I assumed to be a junior/senior, leaning over the
  typewriter.  I opened the door to enter.  As the door unhinged, so did
  the student, shouting "Shut that G.D. door!" as he strode across the
  room to the door, flailing his arms.  As he stepped out into the hall
  screaming "Didn't you read the damn sign?" he then saw that his
  hand-written sign to "Get The Operators Permission Before Entering"
  had fallen, face down on the floor.  Calming, he informed me that you
  must get the operator's attention, because the computer room was air
  conditioned for the vacuum tubes and he needed to put the machine in
  "QUIESCE/STOP" mode (which took 5-10 seconds), as only then was it
  safe shuffle in, slowly, so as to not bring in warm air.  The vacuum
  tubes were so temperature sensitive, that air currents would cause
  computation to fail, requiring a program restart.

  He pointed me to the IBM manuals on the table beside the Selectric,
  and I began to read, at page one.  Several hours later, I had learned
  how to punch the paper tape input (like the paper tape used in
  Radioteletype at my ham radio station), and could print the tape on
  the Selectric, and had used the IBM example to add 2 + 2 and print 4,
  and I decided I would program the calculation of the determinant on
  this new toy. I spent several hours each day, with no one else
  entering the computer room, and by Saturday afternoon, I had punched
  my program, had printed it, and was now ready to actually run my first
  computer program.  As I watched the nearly 30 feet of paper tape whir
  thru the reader on the 610, its panel of nixie tubes flickered with
  the address numbers.  I recall crossing my arms and thinking "Wow, it
  is 1959, I am a sophomore at Notre Dame, and I am running a real
  program on a digital computer".  The paper tape came to its end, the
  printer came alive, and I received my first computer output; four
  characters were printed, and the Selectric shut down:
 WOW!
  Of course, I didn't have the slightest idea of what was wrong, or how
  to debug, so I remained in the computer room until after midnight
  Saturday, then were back at 7am on Sunday, and final

Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

[Barry Merrill]

 character that put the 610 in a scan mode to read the tape
  until another control character was found, and that in the fifth from
  end position it found a control character that changed the mode from
  "scan" to "print" the characters on the tape, interpreting them as
  machine instructions, and what had been printed out were the last four
  computer instructions in my program:
W=Carriage Return,
O=Line Feed,
W= Carriage Return,
!=Print Accumulator!
  (I had found the IBM recommendation to use two carriage returns to
  ensure that the very slow print head on the Selectric was all the way
  back to the left margin before printing a result!).

  Fortunately, by late on Monday, I had actually figured out how to run
  the program, and successfully computed the value of the 4x4
  determinant, and on Tuesday (I think Sept 29, 1959) I submitted the
  very first EE laboratory report at Notre Dame that used a digital
  computer.  While the report was accepted, (and correct), I saw nothing
  by chagrin in that professor's face, and as I was never encouraged by
  him or anyone else on the faculty, that was also my last use of a
  computer while at Notre Dame.



Barry Merrill

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In <99d5c.23d3405a.40771...@aol.com>, on 04/09/2014
   at 05:07 PM, Ed Finnell  said:

>Fortran II on SS80

Rara avis! I started on the IBM 650, which was much more common.
 
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Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <99d5c.23d3405a.40771...@aol.com>, on 04/09/2014
   at 05:07 PM, Ed Finnell  said:

>Fortran II on SS80

Rara avis! I started on the IBM 650, which was much more common.
 
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Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

[Frank Swarbrick]

TRS-80 Model III for me.


>
> From: John McKown 
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
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>Subject: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC
> 
>
>OK, not a big mainframe impact. But how many of us started programming by
>using Basic on something like an Apple ][?
>
>https://www.dartmouth.edu/basicfifty/
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Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

[Ed Finnell]

Fortran II on SS80 then Basic via 33ASR to GE635 dial-up w/ accoustic  
coupler. circa 1966.
 
 
In a message dated 4/9/2014 3:30:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
gib...@wsu.edu writes:

Fortran/Cards/370 Then PASCAL on a  PDP



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[Gibney, Dave]

Fortran/Cards/370 Then PASCAL on a PDP

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> On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 09:29:52 -0500, John McKown wrote:
> 
> >OK, not a big mainframe impact. But how many of us started programming
> >by using Basic on something like an Apple ][?
> >
> >https://www.dartmouth.edu/basicfifty/
> >
> Heck.  A lustrum earlier than the Apple ][.
> 
> -- gil
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Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

[Ted MacNEIL]

I learned at Mc Master in 1973.
WOW!

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From: Lester, Bob
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Wow, I'm getting old. I learned basic at the Dartmouth DTSS facility in 1975.

Thanks!
BobL

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Subject: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC [ EXTERNAL ]

OK, not a big mainframe impact. But how many of us started programming by using 
Basic on something like an Apple ][?

https://www.dartmouth.edu/basicfifty/

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Maranatha! <><
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Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 09:29:52 -0500, John McKown wrote:

>OK, not a big mainframe impact. But how many of us started programming by
>using Basic on something like an Apple ][?
>
>https://www.dartmouth.edu/basicfifty/
> 
Heck.  A lustrum earlier than the Apple ][.

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Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

[Lester, Bob]

Wow, I'm getting old.  I learned basic at the Dartmouth DTSS facility in 
1975.

Thanks!
BobL

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Subject: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC [ EXTERNAL ]

OK, not a big mainframe impact. But how many of us started programming by using 
Basic on something like an Apple ][?

https://www.dartmouth.edu/basicfifty/

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Maranatha! <><
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Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

[John Weber]

Basic on a Commodore 64 as a hobby.

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OK, not a big mainframe impact. But how many of us started programming by using 
Basic on something like an Apple ][?

https://www.dartmouth.edu/basicfifty/

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Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

[John McKown]

OK, not a big mainframe impact. But how many of us started programming by
using Basic on something like an Apple ][?

https://www.dartmouth.edu/basicfifty/

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Genghis Khan

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John McKown

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