Re: BMC Products Licensing - CPU Serial, MIPS or both?
W dniu 2017-02-03 o 16:22, E Van Wyk pisze: Hi, I'm looking to find out if anyone knows if BMC products make use of CPU Serial alone or MIPS and CPU serial for it's licensing checks? We're planning on adding MIPS to the system by moving to a higher config for an additional LPAR but the added LPAR will have no BMC products and we currently do not have a support contract and are not getting any information from documentation. Some of our other product suppliers informed us their products do check the amount of available MIPS but will still function normally, a warning will just be issued. The BMC products are on version 8.0.03 (Control O, M and T/M-Tape) ControlM can be licensed per MIPS or per job submitted (# of job per day). Licensing key depend on the licensing method, but IMHO none of them checks MIPS value. CPU serial is being checked by MIPS license. BTW: that means you can upgrade your machine and ControlM will not stop working, but it can be a license violation. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland --- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może być jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie jesteś adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomość omyłkowo, prosimy niezwłocznie zawiadomić nadawcę wysyłając odpowiedź oraz trwale usunąć tę wiadomość włączając w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorized to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa, www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2016 r. kapitał zakładowy mBanku S.A. (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 168.955.696 złotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: BMC Products Licensing - CPU Serial, MIPS or both?
On some products (e.g. Mainview) we license x MIPS and send SCRT reports to BMC monthly. As long as our peak 4HA for the year is under our license we are OK. Usage for Control/M is based on reports from Control/M on number of jobs run. CIT | Ken Porowski | VP Mainframe Engineering | Information Technology | +1 973 740 5459 (tel) | ken.porow...@cit.com This email message and any accompanying materials may contain proprietary, privileged and confidential information of CIT Group Inc. or its subsidiaries or affiliates (collectively, “CIT”), and are intended solely for the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, any use, disclosure, printing, copying or distribution, or reliance on the contents, of this communication is strictly prohibited. CIT disclaims any liability for the review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or the taking of any action in reliance upon, this communication by persons other than the intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication in error, please reply to the sender advising of the error in transmission, and immediately delete and destroy the communication and any accompanying materials. To the extent permitted by applicable law, CIT and others may inspect, review, monitor, analyze, copy, record and retain any communications sent from or received at this email address. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Martin Packer Sent: Friday, February 03, 2017 11:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] BMC Products Licensing - CPU Serial, MIPS or both? You mentioned Usage. Interestingly enough, at least to me, is that BMC is one of the vendors that doesn't seem to use IFAUSAGE - so no Usage Data sections in SMF 30 and (I would guess) nothing in SMF 89. I'm not sure what to make of that, except to assume their licencing works differently. Anyone care to enlighten me? Thanks, Martin (not interested in mischief) :-) Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker Podcast Series (With Marna Walle): https://developer.ibm.com/tv/mpt/or https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/mainframe-performance-topics/id1127943573?mt=2 From: E Van Wyk <014777bd4795-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 03/02/2017 16:41 Subject: Re: BMC Products Licensing - CPU Serial, MIPS or both? Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Thanks for the info Ken. That's one of our worries with the increased MIPS our serial will still be the same but the model number will obviously change and we are not on any capacity or usage charge so we have no idea how the products will react with the change in model and if they will still continue working or not. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: BMC Products Licensing - CPU Serial, MIPS or both?
You mentioned Usage. Interestingly enough, at least to me, is that BMC is one of the vendors that doesn't seem to use IFAUSAGE - so no Usage Data sections in SMF 30 and (I would guess) nothing in SMF 89. I'm not sure what to make of that, except to assume their licencing works differently. Anyone care to enlighten me? Thanks, Martin (not interested in mischief) :-) Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker Podcast Series (With Marna Walle): https://developer.ibm.com/tv/mpt/or https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/mainframe-performance-topics/id1127943573?mt=2 From: E Van Wyk <014777bd4795-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 03/02/2017 16:41 Subject: Re: BMC Products Licensing - CPU Serial, MIPS or both? Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Thanks for the info Ken. That's one of our worries with the increased MIPS our serial will still be the same but the model number will obviously change and we are not on any capacity or usage charge so we have no idea how the products will react with the change in model and if they will still continue working or not. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: BMC Products Licensing - CPU Serial, MIPS or both?
Thanks for the info Ken. That's one of our worries with the increased MIPS our serial will still be the same but the model number will obviously change and we are not on any capacity or usage charge so we have no idea how the products will react with the change in model and if they will still continue working or not. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: BMC Products Licensing - CPU Serial, MIPS or both?
BMC does have sub-capacity licensing so I highly doubt they check total MIPS but I believe they are model and serial dependent. Our Control/M license is usage based (number of jobs) not MIPS based. CIT | Ken Porowski | VP Mainframe Engineering | Information Technology | +1 973 740 5459 (tel) | ken.porow...@cit.com This email message and any accompanying materials may contain proprietary, privileged and confidential information of CIT Group Inc. or its subsidiaries or affiliates (collectively, “CIT”), and are intended solely for the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, any use, disclosure, printing, copying or distribution, or reliance on the contents, of this communication is strictly prohibited. CIT disclaims any liability for the review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or the taking of any action in reliance upon, this communication by persons other than the intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication in error, please reply to the sender advising of the error in transmission, and immediately delete and destroy the communication and any accompanying materials. To the extent permitted by applicable law, CIT and others may inspect, review, monitor, analyze, copy, record and retain any communications sent from or received at this email address. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of E Van Wyk Sent: Friday, February 03, 2017 10:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [IBM-MAIN] BMC Products Licensing - CPU Serial, MIPS or both? Hi, I'm looking to find out if anyone knows if BMC products make use of CPU Serial alone or MIPS and CPU serial for it's licensing checks? We're planning on adding MIPS to the system by moving to a higher config for an additional LPAR but the added LPAR will have no BMC products and we currently do not have a support contract and are not getting any information from documentation. Some of our other product suppliers informed us their products do check the amount of available MIPS but will still function normally, a warning will just be issued. The BMC products are on version 8.0.03 (Control O, M and T/M-Tape) Regards, E van Wyk -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
BMC Products Licensing - CPU Serial, MIPS or both?
Hi, I'm looking to find out if anyone knows if BMC products make use of CPU Serial alone or MIPS and CPU serial for it's licensing checks? We're planning on adding MIPS to the system by moving to a higher config for an additional LPAR but the added LPAR will have no BMC products and we currently do not have a support contract and are not getting any information from documentation. Some of our other product suppliers informed us their products do check the amount of available MIPS but will still function normally, a warning will just be issued. The BMC products are on version 8.0.03 (Control O, M and T/M-Tape) Regards, E van Wyk -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
