Re: Dasd Mod conversion mod9 to mod27
The AFAIK a V OFFLINE, a V ONLINE and a reinitialize should be all you need. If the conversion preserves the original data then REFVTOC rather than initialize should work. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Jake Anderson [justmainfra...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 9:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dasd Mod conversion mod9 to mod27 Addresses are not changing It's the same UCB On Mon, Oct 3, 2022, 5:14 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > HCD if addresses have changed. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf > of Jake Anderson [justmainfra...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 5:37 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Dasd Mod conversion mod9 to mod27 > > Hello > > We are planning to perform mod conversion of mod 9 to nod 27 from DS8K. > > Post the mod conversion before initializing are there any other steps needs > to be performed in zOS ? > > Jake > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dasd Mod conversion mod9 to mod27
Yes, If they are truly empty, then reinit is good. We couldn't tell if they had data or not based on the message chain ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dasd Mod conversion mod9 to mod27
Nigel These are just a empty volumes which are mod9 and I wanted to convert them to mod27 on both DR and Production site. I believe instead of REFVTOC reinitializing the volume will do good ? On Mon, Oct 3, 2022, 5:37 PM Nigel Morton wrote: > ICKDSF REFVTOC so that the VTOC reflects the increase in size and free > space. If the volumes are in copy services relationships, they will > probably need to be rebuilt and you'll need to change the size of secondary > volumes. Consider the number of PAV aliases you define - maybe you would > benefit from more with bigger volumes? I'd disable the volumes for new > allocations while I was doing the conversion at the very least although I'd > prefer to define new volumes and use something like TDMF to move the data > to give the opportunity to use larger VTOC/VTOC index. > > Out of curiosity, why not go to 3390-54s if you have the space? > > On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 14:22, Jake Anderson > wrote: > > > Addresses are not changing > > > > It's the same UCB > > > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2022, 5:14 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > > > > > HCD if addresses have changed. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > > > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on > behalf > > > of Jake Anderson [justmainfra...@gmail.com] > > > Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 5:37 AM > > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > > Subject: Dasd Mod conversion mod9 to mod27 > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > We are planning to perform mod conversion of mod 9 to nod 27 from DS8K. > > > > > > Post the mod conversion before initializing are there any other steps > > needs > > > to be performed in zOS ? > > > > > > Jake > > > > > > -- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > -- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dasd Mod conversion mod9 to mod27
ICKDSF REFVTOC so that the VTOC reflects the increase in size and free space. If the volumes are in copy services relationships, they will probably need to be rebuilt and you'll need to change the size of secondary volumes. Consider the number of PAV aliases you define - maybe you would benefit from more with bigger volumes? I'd disable the volumes for new allocations while I was doing the conversion at the very least although I'd prefer to define new volumes and use something like TDMF to move the data to give the opportunity to use larger VTOC/VTOC index. Out of curiosity, why not go to 3390-54s if you have the space? On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 14:22, Jake Anderson wrote: > Addresses are not changing > > It's the same UCB > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2022, 5:14 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > > > HCD if addresses have changed. > > > > > > -- > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf > > of Jake Anderson [justmainfra...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 5:37 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Dasd Mod conversion mod9 to mod27 > > > > Hello > > > > We are planning to perform mod conversion of mod 9 to nod 27 from DS8K. > > > > Post the mod conversion before initializing are there any other steps > needs > > to be performed in zOS ? > > > > Jake > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dasd Mod conversion mod9 to mod27
For the most part, z/OS versions from the last couple of decades, perform SenseID, RDC and RCD CCWs to determine the device type and characteristics of the device, that is the number of cylinders and if EAV is supported. That being said, you should not have to do anything but either VARY ON/OFF or IPL. The DS8K will report the correct number of CYLs to the OS. Use DS QD,,RDC,RCD where is an address and the response will look like: IEE459I 09.28.56 DEVSERV QDASD 771 UNIT VOLSER SCUTYPE DEVTYPE CYL SSID SCU-SERIAL DEV-SERIAL EFC 03040 RES250 2107961 2107900 10017 3000 0175-ZB771 0175-ZB771 *OK 10017 CYL count READ DEVICE CHARACTERISTIC 2107E833900C5E84 1FF720322721000F E000E5A205940222 13090674 <<< 2107E8 3390-0C 32321F02DFEE0001 0677080F007F4800 003C2721 READ CONFIGURATION DATA DC010100F0F0F2F1 F0F7F9F0F0C9C2D4 F7F5F0F0F0F0F0F0 F0E9C2F7F7F11040 D402F0F0F2F1 F0F7F9F6F1C9C2D4 F7F5F0F0F0F0F0F0 F0E9C2F7F7F11000 D000F0F0F2F1 F0F7F9F6F1C9C2D4 F7F5F0F0F0F0F0F0 F0E9C2F7F7F01000 F001F0F0F2F1 F0F7F9F0F0C9C2D4 F7F5F0F0F0F0F0F0 F0E9C2F7F7F11000 83012D001E00 30430201 0008C04004FEF44C 03012800 1 DEVICE(S) MET THE SELECTION CRITERIA 0 DEVICE(S) FAILED EXTENDED FUNCTION CHECKING -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dasd Mod conversion mod9 to mod27
Addresses are not changing It's the same UCB On Mon, Oct 3, 2022, 5:14 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > HCD if addresses have changed. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf > of Jake Anderson [justmainfra...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 5:37 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Dasd Mod conversion mod9 to mod27 > > Hello > > We are planning to perform mod conversion of mod 9 to nod 27 from DS8K. > > Post the mod conversion before initializing are there any other steps needs > to be performed in zOS ? > > Jake > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dasd Mod conversion mod9 to mod27
HCD if addresses have changed. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Jake Anderson [justmainfra...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 5:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Dasd Mod conversion mod9 to mod27 Hello We are planning to perform mod conversion of mod 9 to nod 27 from DS8K. Post the mod conversion before initializing are there any other steps needs to be performed in zOS ? Jake -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Dasd Mod conversion mod9 to mod27
Hello We are planning to perform mod conversion of mod 9 to nod 27 from DS8K. Post the mod conversion before initializing are there any other steps needs to be performed in zOS ? Jake -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN