Re: EXPDT added to newly allocated dataset

2024-04-09 Thread Mark Jacobs
Which exits are you thinking about? I can check them out. 

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On Tuesday, April 9th, 2024 at 4:32 PM, Allan Staller 
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> There are several SMS exits that could be causing this issue
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> I have an interesting problem I'm looking at and nothing seems obvious as to 
> the reason why. On two of our systems when I allocate a new SYS1 dataset, 
> non-sms with no DATACLASS assigned by the ACS routines or on the allocation 
> itself, when I specify UNIT=3390 it's assigned an EXPDT of today+3 days, when 
> I allocate the same dataset on the same volume using UNIT=SYSDA or 
> UNIT=SYSALLDA it's not given an EXPDT.
> 
> When I do the same processes on different systems in the same SYSPLEX, but in 
> a different SMSPLEX, we're not observing the same EXPDT behavior, with no 
> EXPDT assigned for both datasets.
> 
> Does anyone have ideas on where to look?
> 
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Re: EXPDT added to newly allocated dataset

2024-04-09 Thread Allan Staller
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There are several SMS exits that could be causing this issue

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I have an interesting problem I'm looking at and nothing seems obvious as to 
the reason why. On two of our systems when I allocate a new SYS1 dataset, 
non-sms with no DATACLASS assigned by the ACS routines or on the allocation 
itself, when I specify UNIT=3390 it's assigned an EXPDT of today+3 days, when I 
allocate the same dataset on the same volume using UNIT=SYSDA or UNIT=SYSALLDA 
it's not given an EXPDT.

When I do the same processes on different systems in the same SYSPLEX, but in a 
different SMSPLEX, we're not observing the same EXPDT behavior, with no EXPDT 
assigned for both datasets.

Does anyone have ideas on where to look?

Mark Jacobs

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Re: EXPDT added to newly allocated dataset

2024-04-09 Thread Michael Babcock
Just to rule it out, can you code the DD statement that bypasses SRS’s
allocations?

On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 12:52 PM Mark Jacobs <
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> Good thought, but no. They're not being used on those systems.
>
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> On Tuesday, April 9th, 2024 at 1:29 PM, Ituriel do Neto <
> 03427ec2837d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> > Maybe IGGPRE00/IGGPOST0?
> >
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> > Ituriel do Nascimento Neto
> > z/OS System Programmer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Em terça-feira, 9 de abril de 2024 às 14:20:33 BRT, Mark Jacobs
> 0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu escreveu:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Not on these two systems. On the others we use SRS.
> >
> > Mark Jacobs
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, April 9th, 2024 at 1:15 PM, Michael Babcock
> 05ad4e2d7232-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
> >
> > > Do you have CA-DISK or similar software that manages non-SMS
> allocations?
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 12:07 PM Mark Jacobs <
> > > 0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have an interesting problem I'm looking at and nothing seems
> obvious as
> > > > to the reason why. On two of our systems when I allocate a new SYS1
> > > > dataset, non-sms with no DATACLASS assigned by the ACS routines or
> on the
> > > > allocation itself, when I specify UNIT=3390 it's assigned an EXPDT of
> > > > today+3 days, when I allocate the same dataset on the same volume
> using
> > > > UNIT=SYSDA or UNIT=SYSALLDA it's not given an EXPDT.
> > > >
> > > > When I do the same processes on different systems in the same
> SYSPLEX, but
> > > > in a different SMSPLEX, we're not observing the same EXPDT behavior,
> with
> > > > no EXPDT assigned for both datasets.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have ideas on where to look?
> > > >
> > > > Mark Jacobs
> > > >
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Re: EXPDT added to newly allocated dataset

2024-04-09 Thread Mark Jacobs
Good thought, but no. They're not being used on those systems.

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On Tuesday, April 9th, 2024 at 1:29 PM, Ituriel do Neto 
<03427ec2837d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> Maybe IGGPRE00/IGGPOST0?
> 
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Ituriel do Nascimento Neto
> z/OS System Programmer
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Em terça-feira, 9 de abril de 2024 às 14:20:33 BRT, Mark Jacobs 
> 0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu escreveu:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Not on these two systems. On the others we use SRS.
> 
> Mark Jacobs
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, April 9th, 2024 at 1:15 PM, Michael Babcock 
> 05ad4e2d7232-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
> 
> > Do you have CA-DISK or similar software that manages non-SMS allocations?
> > 
> > On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 12:07 PM Mark Jacobs <
> > 0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> > 
> > > I have an interesting problem I'm looking at and nothing seems obvious as
> > > to the reason why. On two of our systems when I allocate a new SYS1
> > > dataset, non-sms with no DATACLASS assigned by the ACS routines or on the
> > > allocation itself, when I specify UNIT=3390 it's assigned an EXPDT of
> > > today+3 days, when I allocate the same dataset on the same volume using
> > > UNIT=SYSDA or UNIT=SYSALLDA it's not given an EXPDT.
> > > 
> > > When I do the same processes on different systems in the same SYSPLEX, but
> > > in a different SMSPLEX, we're not observing the same EXPDT behavior, with
> > > no EXPDT assigned for both datasets.
> > > 
> > > Does anyone have ideas on where to look?
> > > 
> > > Mark Jacobs
> > > 
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Re: EXPDT added to newly allocated dataset

2024-04-09 Thread Mark Jacobs
No, it's not SMS managed. 

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On Tuesday, April 9th, 2024 at 1:30 PM, Sri Hari Kolusu  
wrote:

> Mark,
> 
> Check if the dataset got associated with a management class and expiration 
> date defined in the management class for the data set.
> 
> Thanks,
> Kolusu
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Re: EXPDT added to newly allocated dataset

2024-04-09 Thread Sri Hari Kolusu
Mark,

Check if the dataset got associated with a management class and expiration date 
defined in the management class for the data set.

Thanks,
Kolusu

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Re: EXPDT added to newly allocated dataset

2024-04-09 Thread Ituriel do Neto
Maybe IGGPRE00/IGGPOST0?


Best Regards

Ituriel do Nascimento Neto
z/OS System Programmer






Em terça-feira, 9 de abril de 2024 às 14:20:33 BRT, Mark Jacobs 
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Not on these two systems. On the others we use SRS.

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On Tuesday, April 9th, 2024 at 1:15 PM, Michael Babcock 
<05ad4e2d7232-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> Do you have CA-DISK or similar software that manages non-SMS allocations?
> 
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 12:07 PM Mark Jacobs <
> 0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
> > I have an interesting problem I'm looking at and nothing seems obvious as
> > to the reason why. On two of our systems when I allocate a new SYS1
> > dataset, non-sms with no DATACLASS assigned by the ACS routines or on the
> > allocation itself, when I specify UNIT=3390 it's assigned an EXPDT of
> > today+3 days, when I allocate the same dataset on the same volume using
> > UNIT=SYSDA or UNIT=SYSALLDA it's not given an EXPDT.
> > 
> > When I do the same processes on different systems in the same SYSPLEX, but
> > in a different SMSPLEX, we're not observing the same EXPDT behavior, with
> > no EXPDT assigned for both datasets.
> > 
> > Does anyone have ideas on where to look?
> > 
> > Mark Jacobs
> > 
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Re: EXPDT added to newly allocated dataset

2024-04-09 Thread Mark Jacobs
Not on these two systems. On the others we use SRS.

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On Tuesday, April 9th, 2024 at 1:15 PM, Michael Babcock 
<05ad4e2d7232-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> Do you have CA-DISK or similar software that manages non-SMS allocations?
> 
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 12:07 PM Mark Jacobs <
> 0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
> > I have an interesting problem I'm looking at and nothing seems obvious as
> > to the reason why. On two of our systems when I allocate a new SYS1
> > dataset, non-sms with no DATACLASS assigned by the ACS routines or on the
> > allocation itself, when I specify UNIT=3390 it's assigned an EXPDT of
> > today+3 days, when I allocate the same dataset on the same volume using
> > UNIT=SYSDA or UNIT=SYSALLDA it's not given an EXPDT.
> > 
> > When I do the same processes on different systems in the same SYSPLEX, but
> > in a different SMSPLEX, we're not observing the same EXPDT behavior, with
> > no EXPDT assigned for both datasets.
> > 
> > Does anyone have ideas on where to look?
> > 
> > Mark Jacobs
> > 
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Re: EXPDT added to newly allocated dataset

2024-04-09 Thread Michael Babcock
Do you have CA-DISK or similar software that manages non-SMS allocations?

On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 12:07 PM Mark Jacobs <
0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> I have an interesting problem I'm looking at and nothing seems obvious as
> to the reason why. On two of our systems when I allocate a new SYS1
> dataset, non-sms with no DATACLASS assigned by the ACS routines or on the
> allocation itself, when I specify UNIT=3390 it's assigned an EXPDT of
> today+3 days, when I allocate the same dataset on the same volume using
> UNIT=SYSDA or UNIT=SYSALLDA it's not given an EXPDT.
>
> When I do the same processes on different systems in the same SYSPLEX, but
> in a different SMSPLEX, we're not observing the same EXPDT behavior, with
> no EXPDT assigned for both datasets.
>
> Does anyone have ideas on where to look?
>
> Mark Jacobs
>
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EXPDT added to newly allocated dataset

2024-04-09 Thread Mark Jacobs
I have an interesting problem I'm looking at and nothing seems obvious as to 
the reason why. On two of our systems when I allocate a new SYS1 dataset, 
non-sms with no DATACLASS assigned by the ACS routines or on the allocation 
itself, when I specify UNIT=3390 it's assigned an EXPDT of today+3 days, when I 
allocate the same dataset on the same volume using UNIT=SYSDA or UNIT=SYSALLDA 
it's not given an EXPDT.

When I do the same processes on different systems in the same SYSPLEX, but in a 
different SMSPLEX, we're not observing the same EXPDT behavior, with no EXPDT 
assigned for both datasets.

Does anyone have ideas on where to look?

Mark Jacobs

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