Re: Enhancement RFE for TSO DELETE xxx MASK Function

2016-06-10 Thread John Eells 

Walt Farrell wrote:


Perhaps, but I think DEL is just the IDCAMS DELETE command issued in a 
different context, so it's not really a TSO enhancement :)


And, indeed, that is the case, as documented.  But you have to read all 
the way down to the 6th paragraph under Delete in the TSO/E Commands 
book to find that out (if you didn't happen to know already).


A number of other commands (perhaps all of them) are also "passed along" 
to IDCAMS by TSO/E, such as DEFINE, ALTER, IMPORT, EXPORT, and LISTCAT.


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Re: Enhancement RFE for TSO DELETE xxx MASK Function

2016-06-10 Thread Walt Farrell 
On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 23:22:18 -0500, Edward Gould  wrote:

>> On Jun 9, 2016, at 7:08 PM, Paul Gilmartin 
>> <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> On 2016-06-09 17:20, Lizette Koehler wrote:
>>> Cross posting to IBM Main and TSO-REXX
>>> 
>>> I have just created this RFE, so you may or may not be able to vote on it.  
>>> But
>>> when available, I hope you will vote for it
>>> 
>>> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe_ID=89817
>>>... 
>>> Also asked to add regular expressions ...
>>> 
>> Good idea.  Why not?
>
>
>TSO is dead that is why. 

Perhaps, but I think DEL is just the IDCAMS DELETE command issued in a 
different context, so it's not really a TSO enhancement :)

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Re: Enhancement RFE for TSO DELETE xxx MASK Function

2016-06-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin 
On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 23:22:18 -0500, Edward Gould wrote:

>> On Jun 9, 2016, at 7:08 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have just created this RFE, so you may or may not be able to vote on it.  
>>> But
>>> when available, I hope you will vote for it
>>> 
>>> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe_ID=89817
>>>... 
>>> Also asked to add regular expressions ...
>>> 
>> Good idea.  Why not?
>
>TSO is dead that is why. 
>
But ISPF is alive and reasonably well.  ISPF Edit has lately become savvy to:
o UNIX files
o UTF-8 encoding
o Regular expressions

Partly the reason I addressed ISPF more than Lizette's original question.

Rexx could be given regular expressions in a function package using EXECOM,
akin to awk's match()/sub()/gsub() functions.

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Re: Enhancement RFE for TSO DELETE xxx MASK Function

2016-06-09 Thread Edward Gould 
> On Jun 9, 2016, at 7:08 PM, Paul Gilmartin 
> <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
> On 2016-06-09 17:20, Lizette Koehler wrote:
>> Cross posting to IBM Main and TSO-REXX
>> 
>> I have just created this RFE, so you may or may not be able to vote on it.  
>> But
>> when available, I hope you will vote for it
>> 
>> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe_ID=89817
>>... 
>> Also asked to add regular expressions ...
>> 
> Good idea.  Why not?


TSO is dead that is why. 

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Re: Enhancement RFE for TSO DELETE xxx MASK Function

2016-06-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin 
On 2016-06-09 17:20, Lizette Koehler wrote:
> Cross posting to IBM Main and TSO-REXX
> 
> I have just created this RFE, so you may or may not be able to vote on it.  
> But
> when available, I hope you will vote for it
> 
> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe_ID=89817
> ... 
> Also asked to add regular expressions ...
> 
Good idea.  Why not?

> DEL HLQ.%[LX9]%A.LIST MASK   This would request a delete only if the file had
> somewhere in the second node LX9 and ends in A.
>
Where does that use of '%[' and ']%' come from?  Is it customary syntax
in a facility I'm unfamiliar with?  Otherwise, it's quite confusing to
those already familiar with regular expressions.

> HLQ.LX9A.LIST would delete
> HLQ.LX9.LIST  would not delete
> HLQ.ABLX92A.LIST would delete.
>  
If I understand, the regex for this in ISPF Edit notation would be:

DELETE r'^HLQ\..*LX9.*A\.LIST$'

> If you like it, please vote for it.
> 
I'll go further.  The convention should be made universal.  Once, naïvely
I asked in ISPF-L (IIRC) why I can't use delimited pattern-strings in
DSLIST or member lists?  "Of course not!  Those work only in Edit (and
perhaps Browse)!"  But why not?  Think reusable code.  Write the code
once (it's already been done; Edit uses it) and use it everywhere that
strings are matched.

I know; in UNIX filename matching patterns are different from regular
expressions.  But here's an opportunity for z/OS to be more UNIform
than UNIX!

Alas, while matching in ISPF panels/lists is done by ISPF which can
make its own rules, TSO commands such as DELETE are a different matter
and would need to be addressed separately.

One of the great strengths of UNIX is that filename matching is done
by the shell, not by the individual commands, so it behaves UNIformly
over all commands.

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Enhancement RFE for TSO DELETE xxx MASK Function

2016-06-09 Thread Lizette Koehler 
Cross posting to IBM Main and TSO-REXX

I have just created this RFE, so you may or may not be able to vote on it.  But
when available, I hope you will vote for it

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe_ID=89817

This RFE is a request to enhance the DEL name MASK function to use more than
just % or * (Star)
I am hoping that IBM will include the functions like ISPF Picture strings.
#  Numbers
@  Characters
And so forth.

Also asked to add regular expressions (long shot) to allow for a phrase
somewhere in the name.  As well as similar names (LINE/LANE/etc..)
For example, I have a node in a dataset name that could be between 1 and 8
characters.  I only want to delete the dataset if the name contains somewhere in
that node a phrase

DEL HLQ.%[LX9]%A.LIST MASK   This would request a delete only if the file had
somewhere in the second node LX9 and ends in A
HLQ.LX9A.LIST would delete
HLQ.LX9.LIST  would not delete
HLQ.ABLX92A.LIST would delete.

If you like it, please vote for it.

Thank you



Lizette Koehler
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