Re: Fwd: Shipping Culture Is Hurting Us, or what's wrong with I.T. development

2015-02-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 16:07:09 -0800, Tom Brennan wrote:

You made me look -
http://www.amazon.com/Minder-Wink-App-Enabled-Smart-Tray/dp/B00GN92KQ4
I can't believe it :)
 
Hauntingly reminiscent of:
https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~coke/history_long.txt
... perhaps even a patent conflict.

And somewhere, perhaps in the Amazon reviews, someone questioned the
reason for 14 compartments when eggs come in modules of 12.  I had simply
assumed that allowed sending the re-order notification before the tray was
entirely empty.

But I do somewhat agree with the shipping culture.  I've created some
small applications myself for various people, and if you initially ask
them What do you want?, they can't tell you.  But if you show them
something - anything - then they start to get ideas and you can go from
there.

I have long felt that if only the Wright Brothers had enjoyed the counsel
of an MBA they could have become the world's leading franchiser of
bicycle repair shops.

-- gil

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Re: Fwd: Shipping Culture Is Hurting Us, or what's wrong with I.T. development

2015-02-17 Thread Shane Ginnane
Ain't just software.
The internet of things  is underway, and the same ship it and be damned 
attitude prevails. Especially re (absence of) security.
The Christmas Playstation and X-Box attack was launched from compromised home 
routers. Behind those same routers is now an array of {un,in}-secured devices. 
The future bot of things - toaster, fridges, TVs that listen to your every 
word (not just the command to change channel). Even egg trays - I kid you not.
TVs have been the first to make it into the news for leaking (deliberately) 
information, but think about your automated thermostat telling the world you've 
just left the house 

Shane ...

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Re: Fwd: Shipping Culture Is Hurting Us, or what's wrong with I.T. development

2015-02-17 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:54:22 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

The examples you give are all software.

Indeed.
Let's hope people think about the included software when they're buying 
hardware. History doesn't inspire confidence.

Then again, when bodies supposedly mandated to protect national security 
apparently compromise the firmware of commercial hard drives, what chance do we 
have ?.

Shane ...

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Re: Fwd: Shipping Culture Is Hurting Us, or what's wrong with I.T. development

2015-02-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0269152064501693.wa.ibmmaintpg.com...@listserv.ua.edu, on
02/17/2015
   at 05:52 PM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au said:

Ain't just software.

The examples you give are all software.

compromised home routers.

The bug was in the router software, not in the router hardware.
Likewise for all the others you mention.

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Re: Fwd: Shipping Culture Is Hurting Us, or what's wrong with I.T. development

2015-02-17 Thread Tom Brennan

You made me look -
http://www.amazon.com/Minder-Wink-App-Enabled-Smart-Tray/dp/B00GN92KQ4
I can't believe it :)

But I do somewhat agree with the shipping culture.  I've created some 
small applications myself for various people, and if you initially ask 
them What do you want?, they can't tell you.  But if you show them 
something - anything - then they start to get ideas and you can go from 
there.


Shane Ginnane wrote:

Ain't just software.
The internet of things  is underway, and the same ship it and be damned 
attitude prevails. Especially re (absence of) security.
The Christmas Playstation and X-Box attack was launched from compromised home routers. 
Behind those same routers is now an array of {un,in}-secured devices. The future 
bot of things - toaster, fridges, TVs that listen to your every word (not 
just the command to change channel). Even egg trays - I kid you not.
TVs have been the first to make it into the news for leaking (deliberately) 
information, but think about your automated thermostat telling the world you've 
just left the house 

Shane ...

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Fwd: Shipping Culture Is Hurting Us, or what's wrong with I.T. development

2015-02-17 Thread John McKown
Too good not to pass to this group.

Preach it, Brother!

quote
...
Quickly getting something in front of the people that will actually use it
is a great idea. It means you waste less time building something they don’t
actually want. But I look around the industry today and I get worried.
Don’t get me wrong – I see brilliant people shipping brilliant, innovative
software. But I also see a lot of us using half-baked technologies to shove
half-assed software out the door.
...
/quote

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Date: Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:20 AM
Subject: Shipping Culture Is Hurting Us, or what's wrong with I.T.
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A good read, imho:

http://bitbashing.io/2015/02/16/shipping-culture.html

Have a good one, too.

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Maranatha! 
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