Re: GTF trace for a JCL error?

2024-01-30 Thread Mike Schwab
Our system had 7 days.

On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 12:57 PM Paul Gilmartin <
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> On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 14:41:59 +, Allan Staller  wrote:
> >
> >You need to look at the JES output to determine the error.
> >Use the following command
> >S taskname,,,MSGCLASS=x  where x is a held sysout class.
> >
> >HTH,
> >
> Wouldn't it be a good Idea to have a class for "Delete after one hour"!?
>
> I've often wanted that.
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Re: GTF trace for a JCL error?

2024-01-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 14:41:59 +, Allan Staller  wrote:
>
>You need to look at the JES output to determine the error.
>Use the following command
>S taskname,,,MSGCLASS=x  where x is a held sysout class.
>
>HTH,
> 
Wouldn't it be a good Idea to have a class for "Delete after one hour"!?

I've often wanted that.
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Re: GTF trace for a JCL error?

2024-01-30 Thread Gibney, Dave
Have (or create from sandbox) a simple/failsafe version of the VTAN proc.
Export the spool files and import into sandbox or other lpar.
I suspect there are sufficwnt breadcrumbs in a standalone dump.

Test changes to VTAM proc by running it via a job before you shutdown.

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> Dave,
> 
> It was VTAM that would not come up due to a JCL error. We could not sign on
> to that LPAR and access JES. I was researching if I could see the JCL error 
> via a
> GTF trace. Sounding like I will not be able to do that.
> 
> In this case, starting the VTAM STC again with S , SUB=MSTR would
> write the JCL error to the console.
> 
> The issue has been resolved, just researching what other methods I could have
> used…
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Re: GTF trace for a JCL error?

2024-01-30 Thread Peter Ten Eyck
Dave,

It was VTAM that would not come up due to a JCL error. We could not sign on to 
that LPAR and access JES. I was researching if I could see the JCL error via a 
GTF trace. Sounding like I will not be able to do that.

In this case, starting the VTAM STC again with S , SUB=MSTR would write 
the JCL error to the console.

The issue has been resolved, just researching what other methods I could have 
used…

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Re: GTF trace for a JCL error?

2024-01-30 Thread Gibney, Dave
Run a job with //STEP EXEC procname

Presumably it will experience the same JCL error

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> Under z/OS 2.4.
> 
> I have a STC when started, fails with the following error in the SYSLOG:
> 
> IEE132I START COMMAND DEVICE ALLOCATION ERROR
> 
> Looking at the STC output in JES, there is a JCL error in the proc (dataset 
> not
> found).
> 
> Is there a way to "see" the JCL error without looking at the JES output?
> 
> I have been researching and running a GTF trace with no success "seeing" the
> JCL error, not sure what GTF trace options to turn on or if it is possible to 
> see
> that JCL error via a GTF trace.
> 
> Is it possible to see that JCL error in a GTF trace, if so, what options 
> (parms) do
> I need to run with?
> 
> 
> 
> Note: We had an issue with VTAM not coming up on a LPAR and we were
> unable to access JES to see the JCL error.
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Re: GTF trace for a JCL error?

2024-01-30 Thread Peter Ten Eyck
Thanks for the tip, in this case, S ,sub=MSTR works. As in, writes the 
IEFA107I JCL error to the console.

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Re: GTF trace for a JCL error?

2024-01-30 Thread Styles, Andy (CIO GS - Core Infrastructure & IT Operations )

You're going to be a bit stuck without VTAM up. 

Does the proc in question live in a dataset allocated to IEFPDSI in MSTJCLxx? 
If so, you might be able to issue S proc,SUB=MSTR and see the corresponding 
IEF196I messages on the console.

Andy Styles

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Under z/OS 2.4.

I have a STC when started, fails with the following error in the SYSLOG:

IEE132I START COMMAND DEVICE ALLOCATION ERROR

Looking at the STC output in JES, there is a JCL error in the proc (dataset not 
found).

Is there a way to "see" the JCL error without looking at the JES output?

I have been researching and running a GTF trace with no success "seeing" the 
JCL error, not sure what GTF trace options to turn on or if it is possible to 
see that JCL error via a GTF trace.

Is it possible to see that JCL error in a GTF trace, if so, what options 
(parms) do I need to run with?



Note: We had an issue with VTAM not coming up on a LPAR and we were unable to 
access JES to see the JCL error.

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Re: GTF trace for a JCL error?

2024-01-30 Thread Allan Staller
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You need to look at the JES output to determine the error.
Use the following command
S taskname,,,MSGCLASS=x  where x is a held sysout class.

HTH,

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Hi,

You can check the jobclass definitions of your STCs by issuing 
$DJOBCLASS(STC),LONG or looking into SDSF at JC screen. Probably the outdisp is 
(PURGE,PURGE).

In this case, you may change it to (HOLD,HOLD) to see the JCL.


Best Regards

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Em terça-feira, 30 de janeiro de 2024 às 11:31:17 BRT, Peter Ten Eyck 
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Under z/OS 2.4.

I have a STC when started, fails with the following error in the SYSLOG:

IEE132I START COMMAND DEVICE ALLOCATION ERROR

Looking at the STC output in JES, there is a JCL error in the proc (dataset not 
found).

Is there a way to "see" the JCL error without looking at the JES output?

I have been researching and running a GTF trace with no success "seeing" the 
JCL error, not sure what GTF trace options to turn on or if it is possible to 
see that JCL error via a GTF trace.

Is it possible to see that JCL error in a GTF trace, if so, what options 
(parms) do I need to run with?



Note: We had an issue with VTAM not coming up on a LPAR and we were unable to 
access JES to see the JCL error.

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Re: GTF trace for a JCL error?

2024-01-30 Thread Ituriel do Neto
Hi,

You can check the jobclass definitions of your STCs by issuing 
$DJOBCLASS(STC),LONG or looking into SDSF at JC screen. Probably the outdisp is 
(PURGE,PURGE).

In this case, you may change it to (HOLD,HOLD) to see the JCL.


Best Regards

Ituriel do Nascimento Neto
z/OS System Programmer






Em terça-feira, 30 de janeiro de 2024 às 11:31:17 BRT, Peter Ten Eyck 
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Under z/OS 2.4.

I have a STC when started, fails with the following error in the SYSLOG:

IEE132I START COMMAND DEVICE ALLOCATION ERROR

Looking at the STC output in JES, there is a JCL error in the proc (dataset not 
found).

Is there a way to "see" the JCL error without looking at the JES output?

I have been researching and running a GTF trace with no success "seeing" the 
JCL error, not sure what GTF trace options to turn on or if it is possible to 
see that JCL error via a GTF trace.

Is it possible to see that JCL error in a GTF trace, if so, what options 
(parms) do I need to run with?



Note: We had an issue with VTAM not coming up on a LPAR and we were unable to 
access JES to see the JCL error.

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Re: GTF trace for a JCL error?

2024-01-30 Thread Allan Staller
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Nope!

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Under z/OS 2.4.

I have a STC when started, fails with the following error in the SYSLOG:

IEE132I START COMMAND DEVICE ALLOCATION ERROR

Looking at the STC output in JES, there is a JCL error in the proc (dataset not 
found).

Is there a way to "see" the JCL error without looking at the JES output?

I have been researching and running a GTF trace with no success "seeing" the 
JCL error, not sure what GTF trace options to turn on or if it is possible to 
see that JCL error via a GTF trace.

Is it possible to see that JCL error in a GTF trace, if so, what options 
(parms) do I need to run with?



Note: We had an issue with VTAM not coming up on a LPAR and we were unable to 
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GTF trace for a JCL error?

2024-01-30 Thread Peter Ten Eyck
Under z/OS 2.4.

I have a STC when started, fails with the following error in the SYSLOG:

IEE132I START COMMAND DEVICE ALLOCATION ERROR

Looking at the STC output in JES, there is a JCL error in the proc (dataset not 
found).

Is there a way to "see" the JCL error without looking at the JES output?

I have been researching and running a GTF trace with no success "seeing" the 
JCL error, not sure what GTF trace options to turn on or if it is possible to 
see that JCL error via a GTF trace.

Is it possible to see that JCL error in a GTF trace, if so, what options 
(parms) do I need to run with?



Note: We had an issue with VTAM not coming up on a LPAR and we were unable to 
access JES to see the JCL error.

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