Re: How to recreate DEFINE CLUSTER for a given VSAM file

2017-12-13 Thread Victor Gil
Thanks to everyone responded.

I was able to recreate the DEFINE using FileMaster.

-Victor-

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Re: How to recreate DEFINE CLUSTER for a given VSAM file

2017-12-13 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2017-12-12 o 21:48, Victor Gil pisze:

Is there an easy way to rebuild the DEFINE CLUSTER for IDCAMS for an existing 
VSAM file?


Assumption: this is *existing* VSAM file.
One of the solutions:
//K1 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
//DD1 DD DSN=NEW.FILE,LIKE=EXISTING.FILE,DISP=(,CATLG)

That's all. You can use similar construct in DEF CLUSTER which is more 
flexible, because you can override some parameters.



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Re: How to recreate DEFINE CLUSTER for a given VSAM file

2017-12-12 Thread Anthony Google Babonas
If you’re only talking about cloning 1 file, just LISTCAT it, read the listing, 
key up the parameters, wrap some JCL, run it. If lots of files are 
involved…various tools exist.

Not Rocket Surgery.

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From: Doug
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:40 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: How to recreate DEFINE CLUSTER for a given VSAM file

Advanced Catalog Management , DrD, Catalog Solutions are a few that can if you 
have them and the existing file is still Cataloged.
Best Regards,
Doug

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On Dec 12, 2017, at 17:30, Jesse 1 Robinson  wrote:

If the goal to create a second VSAM file that mimics an existing one, the 
LIKE() parameter will be propagate most attributes. Values such as space or 
volume can be overridden. Those not overridden will be duplicated to the extent 
permitted by SMS and ACS routines. 

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> Is there an easy way to rebuild the DEFINE CLUSTER for IDCAMS for an 
> existing VSAM file?
> 
> TIA!
> -Victor-
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Re: How to recreate DEFINE CLUSTER for a given VSAM file

2017-12-12 Thread Doug
Advanced Catalog Management , DrD, Catalog Solutions are a few that can if you 
have them and the existing file is still Cataloged.
Best Regards,
Doug

.

On Dec 12, 2017, at 17:30, Jesse 1 Robinson  wrote:

If the goal to create a second VSAM file that mimics an existing one, the 
LIKE() parameter will be propagate most attributes. Values such as space or 
volume can be overridden. Those not overridden will be duplicated to the extent 
permitted by SMS and ACS routines. 

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
robin...@sce.com


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Subject: (External):Re: How to recreate DEFINE CLUSTER for a given VSAM file

Yes, there are entries on www.cbttape.org and there are products.

Lizette


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Victor Gil
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 1:48 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: How to recreate DEFINE CLUSTER for a given VSAM file
> 
> Is there an easy way to rebuild the DEFINE CLUSTER for IDCAMS for an 
> existing VSAM file?
> 
> TIA!
> -Victor-
> 


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Re: How to recreate DEFINE CLUSTER for a given VSAM file

2017-12-12 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
If the goal to create a second VSAM file that mimics an existing one, the 
LIKE() parameter will be propagate most attributes. Values such as space or 
volume can be overridden. Those not overridden will be duplicated to the extent 
permitted by SMS and ACS routines. 

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
robin...@sce.com


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Of Lizette Koehler
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Yes, there are entries on www.cbttape.org and there are products.

Lizette


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Victor Gil
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 1:48 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: How to recreate DEFINE CLUSTER for a given VSAM file
> 
> Is there an easy way to rebuild the DEFINE CLUSTER for IDCAMS for an 
> existing VSAM file?
> 
> TIA!
> -Victor-
> 


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Re: How to recreate DEFINE CLUSTER for a given VSAM file

2017-12-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
Yes, there are entries on www.cbttape.org and there are products.

Lizette


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> 
> Is there an easy way to rebuild the DEFINE CLUSTER for IDCAMS for an existing
> VSAM file?
> 
> TIA!
> -Victor-
> 

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Re: How to recreate DEFINE CLUSTER for a given VSAM file

2017-12-12 Thread Feller, Paul
There was some REXX code from the CBT world, was under file 493 at one time, 
that would IDCAMS create DELETE/DEFINE control cards from a listcat report.  I 
have used it in the past.

Thanks..

Paul Feller
AGT Mainframe Technical Support

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Is there an easy way to rebuild the DEFINE CLUSTER for IDCAMS for an existing 
VSAM file?

TIA!
-Victor- 

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Re: How to recreate DEFINE CLUSTER for a given VSAM file

2017-12-12 Thread Carmen Vitullo
is the cluster still available? 
checking the define_cluster, you can use the MODEL(entryname[ catname]) 
parameter, I don't have any good examples, but if the cluster is there this may 
help. another thought, fileaid? or file manager I believe has an option to view 
the cluster and rebuild the define, or show you how it was defined originally. 



Carmen Vitullo 

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Subject: How to recreate DEFINE CLUSTER for a given VSAM file 

Is there an easy way to rebuild the DEFINE CLUSTER for IDCAMS for an existing 
VSAM file? 

TIA! 
-Victor- 

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How to recreate DEFINE CLUSTER for a given VSAM file

2017-12-12 Thread Victor Gil
Is there an easy way to rebuild the DEFINE CLUSTER for IDCAMS for an existing 
VSAM file?

TIA!
-Victor-

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