Re: AW: Re: JES2 Exit 23
Ed Finnell wrote: Just as the bigwigs due to show up the 'Change toner bag' light came on and he scurried out to the van and got the replacement-still time. Got the bag swapped just as the tour was beginning so is tripping across the raised floor to the recycle exchange and stumps his toe on the floor seams. The toner bags were like 18x18x48 and said when it hit the floor TNF spewed out like a volcano. 18x18x48 - do you mean the size of the bag? What is 'TNF'? - Acronym Police said amongst a lot of things this jewel - 'That's Not Funny.' (from http://www.acronymfinder.com) Now, my question - those bags - are they not in a sturdy wood or carton box? Or from what were they made of? The hazmat crew spent 2 days decontaminating the room. No static electricity problems? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: AW: Re: JES2 Exit 23
We had a room full of 3800's in early 80's guess they were Line mode. But DCF had a DEV(3800) and it was used extensively. Guess the big push was to the Kyocera engines with the 3835. Don't think I did a PSF install until late '86. The 3835 demo team was at SHARE and guess it was the Sunday tour. Really impressive. Think they were driving it with a POWER PC of some flavor. The Demo CE said he was still recovering from the rollout. Just as the bigwigs due to show up the 'Change toner bag' light came on and he scurried out to the van and got the replacement-still time. Got the bag swapped just as the tour was beginning so is tripping across the raised floor to the recycle exchange and stumps his toe on the floor seams. The toner bags were like 18x18x48 and said when it hit the floor TNF spewed out like a volcano. The hazmat crew spent 2 days decontaminating the room. In a message dated 6/2/2015 6:18:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ee...@us.ibm.com writes: PSF V1 (5665-275) was made available just in time for Christmas in 1984 (21 December). 1.1 came out in 1985, 1.2 in 1988, and 1.3 in 1989. PSF V1 was withdrawn from service in 1992, having been supplanted by PSF V2. PSF V1 ran on MVS on 168s and 158s, and later processors (43xx) when originally announced. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: AW: Re: JES2 Exit 23
edgould1...@comcast.net (Ed Gould) wrote: snip PSF didn't become available about the 1992 (or there abouts). As I installed PSF in the 1980's, when APA print was fairly new, I was surprised enough by this statement to look it up. PSF V1 (5665-275) was made available just in time for Christmas in 1984 (21 December). 1.1 came out in 1985, 1.2 in 1988, and 1.3 in 1989. PSF V1 was withdrawn from service in 1992, having been supplanted by PSF V2. PSF V1 ran on MVS on 168s and 158s, and later processors (43xx) when originally announced. The current release, available since about this time last year, is PSF V4.5 (5655-M32). Incidentally, PSF's SMF6 records have more content these days, some of which was added to make SMF-based accounting easier. Also, PSF 4.5 can be installed separately in its own SMP/E zones (it used to be necessary to install it in the z/OS zones) and it supports enable/disable via IFAPRDxx. -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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John Eells wrote: The current release, available since about this time last year, is PSF V4.5 (5655-M32). Indeed. See the below URL for more info + lifecycle of PSF. http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=ddsubtype=smhtmlfid=897/ENUS5655-M32 Watch that wrrap of above URL. Also, PSF 4.5 can be installed separately in its own SMP/E zones (it used to be necessary to install it in the z/OS zones) Hmmm. Interesting. I believe it will make the life of SMP/E diehards easier... ;-) Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: AW: Re: JES2 Exit 23
On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 07:47:58 -0400, Ed Finnell wrote: The toner bags were like 18x18x48 and said when it hit the floor TNF spewed out like a volcano. The hazmat crew spent 2 days decontaminating the room. Dammit, Ed stoppit. I'm trying to concentrate on watching a soccer game with a glass of red in front of a fire . These stories should be playing in a bar, not a list ... ;-) Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: AW: Re: JES2 Exit 23
John, Thanks, I am surprised. Going back to conversations I had with PSF level 2, 1. They were surprised at my calling back almost daily on bugs. 2. They seem to indicate this was all new code. They were fairly good at finding the bugs (thank goodness). Ed On Jun 2, 2015, at 6:17 AM, John Eells wrote: edgould1...@comcast.net (Ed Gould) wrote: snip PSF didn't become available about the 1992 (or there abouts). As I installed PSF in the 1980's, when APA print was fairly new, I was surprised enough by this statement to look it up. PSF V1 (5665-275) was made available just in time for Christmas in 1984 (21 December). 1.1 came out in 1985, 1.2 in 1988, and 1.3 in 1989. PSF V1 was withdrawn from service in 1992, having been supplanted by PSF V2. PSF V1 ran on MVS on 168s and 158s, and later processors (43xx) when originally announced. The current release, available since about this time last year, is PSF V4.5 (5655-M32). Incidentally, PSF's SMF6 records have more content these days, some of which was added to make SMF-based accounting easier. Also, PSF 4.5 can be installed separately in its own SMP/E zones (it used to be necessary to install it in the z/OS zones) and it supports enable/disable via IFAPRDxx. -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: AW: Re: JES2 Exit 23
Yep size of bag. They were made of soft sided quilts and were recycled to pull out the toner. TNF is short for chemical composition Tri-nitro flouride(?). It was powdered on 3835 on 3800 it was pellets and there was a grinder to make the powder. In a message dated 6/2/2015 7:01:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za writes: 18x18x48 - do you mean the size of the bag? What is 'TNF'? - Acronym Police said amongst a lot of things this jewel - 'That's Not Funny.' (from http://www.acronymfinder.com) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: JES2 Exit 23
Thanks a lot for all this valuable information - I'm going to investigate the solution that Peter proposed... We have PSF 4.4.0 with z/OS 2.1 and are writing the exits in assembler. Kind regards Markus Haselbach -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Hunkeler Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 6:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: AW: Re: JES2 Exit 23 Long time ago (MVS/ESA 3.x in the late 80ies), I wrote JES2 and PSF exits to provide (part of) the accounting information as well as some other stuff to PSF. It was a combination of JES Exits 3 and 23, as well as PSF exits 1 and 2. At that time, I did not want to take the burden to extend any JES2 control blokc held on the spool, and since it was sufficient, I used some user fields in the JCT so save acoounting information in JES2 exit 3. Later, JES2 exit 23 aquired some storage (getmain) to store this data for PSF exits 1 and 2. PSF exit 2 (job end) was in charge of releasing the storage after use. This is from a quick refresh of my memory. Note also that I have not verified if there is an easier way nowadays. I'll send you some code snippets offlist. -- Peter Hunkeler Von: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Betreff: Re: JES2 Exit 23 Datum: 31.05.15 07:49 I have not found any definitive info on how to extract the Accounting information on a JOB producing output and getting it to the APSUX01/APSUX01P exit. You might want to contact IBM directly via an SR for assistance. What version of PSF are you running? Are you using Assembler or C Language? Have you looked at the IEFJESCT to see what is available in the JES2 Communications Area? Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 5:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JES2 Exit 23 If you are not aware, there is also a JES2 List that might be helpful as well. IBMMAIN or JES2 will be good. To join JES2 - use this URL JES2 http://listserv.vt.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=jes2-l Have you looked at the JES2 EXITS manual? SA22-7534-13 z/OS JES2 Installation Exits Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM- m...@listserv.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Markus Haselbach Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 12:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: JES2 Exit 23 Hallo, I?m for the first time involved with JES2 exits. The issue is printing with PSF. I have to write accounting information from the Job Card on the Job Header Page. This will be done in PSF Header Exit APSUX01. The question is how to get the information there. I would like to pass the accounting field by putting it in the JSPA in JES2 Exit 23 HASX23A. Can somebody give me a hint, how to get the Jobcard in HASX23A, or an other solution? Best regards Markus Haselbach Credit-Suisse AG -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: AW: Re: JES2 Exit 23
On May 31, 2015, at 11:50 PM, Peter Hunkeler wrote: Long time ago (MVS/ESA 3.x in the late 80ies), I wrote JES2 and PSF exits to provide (part of) the accounting information as well as some other stuff to PSF. It was a combination of JES Exits 3 and 23, as well as PSF exits 1 and 2. At that time, I did not want to take the burden to extend any JES2 control blokc held on the spool, and since it was sufficient, I used some user fields in the JCT so save acoounting information in JES2 exit 3. Later, JES2 exit 23 aquired some storage (getmain) to store this data for PSF exits 1 and 2. PSF exit 2 (job end) was in charge of releasing the storage after use. This is from a quick refresh of my memory. Note also that I have not verified if there is an easier way nowadays. I'll send you some code snippets offlist. --- SNIP-- Peter, I think you have you times askew. PSF didn't become available about the 1992 (or there abouts). ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
AW: Re: JES2 Exit 23
Long time ago (MVS/ESA 3.x in the late 80ies), I wrote JES2 and PSF exits to provide (part of) the accounting information as well as some other stuff to PSF. It was a combination of JES Exits 3 and 23, as well as PSF exits 1 and 2. At that time, I did not want to take the burden to extend any JES2 control blokc held on the spool, and since it was sufficient, I used some user fields in the JCT so save acoounting information in JES2 exit 3. Later, JES2 exit 23 aquired some storage (getmain) to store this data for PSF exits 1 and 2. PSF exit 2 (job end) was in charge of releasing the storage after use. This is from a quick refresh of my memory. Note also that I have not verified if there is an easier way nowadays. I'll send you some code snippets offlist. -- Peter Hunkeler Von: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Betreff: Re: JES2 Exit 23 Datum: 31.05.15 07:49 I have not found any definitive info on how to extract the Accounting information on a JOB producing output and getting it to the APSUX01/APSUX01P exit. You might want to contact IBM directly via an SR for assistance. What version of PSF are you running? Are you using Assembler or C Language? Have you looked at the IEFJESCT to see what is available in the JES2 Communications Area? Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 5:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JES2 Exit 23 If you are not aware, there is also a JES2 List that might be helpful as well. IBMMAIN or JES2 will be good. To join JES2 - use this URL JES2 http://listserv.vt.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=jes2-l Have you looked at the JES2 EXITS manual? SA22-7534-13 z/OS JES2 Installation Exits Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM- m...@listserv.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Markus Haselbach Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 12:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: JES2 Exit 23 Hallo, I?m for the first time involved with JES2 exits. The issue is printing with PSF. I have to write accounting information from the Job Card on the Job Header Page. This will be done in PSF Header Exit APSUX01. The question is how to get the information there. I would like to pass the accounting field by putting it in the JSPA in JES2 Exit 23 HASX23A. Can somebody give me a hint, how to get the Jobcard in HASX23A, or an other solution? Best regards Markus Haselbach Credit-Suisse AG -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: JES2 Exit 23
Sorry, I posted before second cup of coffee. It was Peter Hunkeler: The new AFP-L discussion list is open for subscriptions. I hope to get the experts and the users back on board to quickly reestablish an AFP community. (The former list at Topica seems to be dead since October 2012.) Please spread the word among your colleagues involved in AFP who might not follow this list. To join the list, send an email to lists...@listserv.uga.edu with the following single line body: SUBSCRIBE AFP-L firstname lastname The Web interface to access the list archives and to post to the list is at http://listserv.uga.edu/archives/afp-l.html In a message dated 5/30/2015 11:03:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time, peter.far...@broadridge.com writes: Sorry Ed, I have not started any such list, and probably never will since I'm in applications, not in systems. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: JES2 Exit 23
I have not found any definitive info on how to extract the Accounting information on a JOB producing output and getting it to the APSUX01/APSUX01P exit. You might want to contact IBM directly via an SR for assistance. What version of PSF are you running? Are you using Assembler or C Language? Have you looked at the IEFJESCT to see what is available in the JES2 Communications Area? Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 5:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JES2 Exit 23 If you are not aware, there is also a JES2 List that might be helpful as well. IBMMAIN or JES2 will be good. To join JES2 - use this URL JES2 http://listserv.vt.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=jes2-l Have you looked at the JES2 EXITS manual? SA22-7534-13 z/OS JES2 Installation Exits Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM- m...@listserv.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Markus Haselbach Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 12:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: JES2 Exit 23 Hallo, I‘m for the first time involved with JES2 exits. The issue is printing with PSF. I have to write accounting information from the Job Card on the Job Header Page. This will be done in PSF Header Exit APSUX01. The question is how to get the information there. I would like to pass the accounting field by putting it in the JSPA in JES2 Exit 23 HASX23A. Can somebody give me a hint, how to get the Jobcard in HASX23A, or an other solution? Best regards Markus Haselbach Credit-Suisse AG -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
JES2 Exit 23
Hallo, I‘m for the first time involved with JES2 exits. The issue is printing with PSF. I have to write accounting information from the Job Card on the Job Header Page. This will be done in PSF Header Exit APSUX01. The question is how to get the information there. I would like to pass the accounting field by putting it in the JSPA in JES2 Exit 23 HASX23A. Can somebody give me a hint, how to get the Jobcard in HASX23A, or an other solution? Best regards Markus Haselbach Credit-Suisse AG -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: JES2 Exit 23
Think Peter Farley started an AFP list since the old one seems to be dormant. Check the prose in APS samp exits. Think most of the stuff is there. You can test by just putting your exit in a separate exits PDS for a particular printer. There will need to be one for CUT sheet and one for continuous forms. A couple of AFP developers are subscribed to IBM-Main. Although they have day time jobs they pitch in to keep us on the right path. In a message dated 5/30/2015 7:28:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time, stars...@mindspring.com writes: IBMMAIN or JES2 will be good. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: JES2 Exit 23
Sorry Ed, I have not started any such list, and probably never will since I'm in applications, not in systems. Unless there is another Peter Farley out there? Dopplegangers do exist, they say. I hope it's not a case of identity theft . . . Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 10:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JES2 Exit 23 Think Peter Farley started an AFP list since the old one seems to be dormant. Check the prose in APS samp exits. Think most of the stuff is there. You can test by just putting your exit in a separate exits PDS for a particular printer. There will need to be one for CUT sheet and one for continuous forms. A couple of AFP developers are subscribed to IBM-Main. Although they have day time jobs they pitch in to keep us on the right path. In a message dated 5/30/2015 7:28:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time, stars...@mindspring.com writes: IBMMAIN or JES2 will be good. -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
