Re: Lower ibm-main

2016-02-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
In general, e-mail servers are case insensitive.

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Hopefully it doesn't matter and either case will be routed to the server. 

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Re: Lower ibm-main

2016-02-03 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 02/03/2016 06:43 AM, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
> In general, e-mail servers are case insensitive.
>
> -teD
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> From: Ed Finnell
> Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 02:47
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> Subject: Lower ibm-main
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> Hopefully it doesn't matter and either case will be routed to the server. 
>
All domain names (the part after "@" in an Email address) are
case-insensitive, for email or otherwise, because DNS lookup is
case-insensitive. 

Although the standard does allow for case-sensitivity on Email user
names (the part to the left of "@"),  that "feature" is typically not
used, probably because it would just cause identity confusion.  So, one
can normally use or not use caps as desired for emphasis or appearance
in all parts of Email addresses.

 All Internet URL's in general are case-insensitive down through the
domain name part, but if an optional path to a specific file or resource
on the server is included at the end of the URL, that part typically IS
case-sensitive on UNIX-based servers.

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Joel C. Ewing,Bentonville, AR   jcew...@acm.org 

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Re: Lower ibm-main

2016-02-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2016-02-03, at 05:43, Ted MacNEIL wrote:

> In general, e-mail servers are case insensitive.
> 
But originating MUAs and MTAs must not assume that.  By Internet standard,
domain names are case-insensitive, however, from RFC822:

 6.2.4.  DOMAIN-DEPENDENT LOCAL STRING
The local-part of an  addr-spec  in  a  mailbox  specification
(i.e.,  the  host's  name for the mailbox) is understood to be
whatever the receiving mail protocol server allows.  For exam-
ple,  some systems do not understand mailbox references of the
form "P. D. Q. Bach", but others do.

(It makes clear elsewhere that the quotation marks must appear in the
mailbox reference.)  And, again, originating MUAs and MTAs must
honor the requirement.  Too many fail to do so.  Address book utilities
are even worse.

And I and a local website developer learned to his dismay that in the url:
mailto://mail...@somehere.com
... the slashes must be preserved in the mailbox reference (RFC 1738)
Alas, popular browsers delete them (improperly); popular MUAs
preserve them (properly).  But if those popular browsers were brought
into conformance with RFC 1738 it would "break" (in a Pickwickian
sense) vast quantities of defective HTML.

I strongly disagree with half of Postel's Principle.

But, if the ua.edu server treats mailbox references as case-insensitive,
who cares how they appear in IBM-Main?

-- gil

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Re: Lower ibm-main

2016-02-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I said "in general"


-teD
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On 2016-02-03, at 05:43, Ted MacNEIL wrote:

> In general, e-mail servers are case insensitive.
> 
But originating MUAs and MTAs must not assume that. By Internet standard,
domain names are case-insensitive, however, from RFC822:

6.2.4. DOMAIN-DEPENDENT LOCAL STRING
The local-part of an addr-spec in a mailbox specification
(i.e., the host's name for the mailbox) is understood to be
whatever the receiving mail protocol server allows. For exam-
ple, some systems do not understand mailbox references of the
form "P. D. Q. Bach", but others do.

(It makes clear elsewhere that the quotation marks must appear in the
mailbox reference.) And, again, originating MUAs and MTAs must
honor the requirement. Too many fail to do so. Address book utilities
are even worse.

And I and a local website developer learned to his dismay that in the url:
mailto://mail...@somehere.com
... the slashes must be preserved in the mailbox reference (RFC 1738)
Alas, popular browsers delete them (improperly); popular MUAs
preserve them (properly). But if those popular browsers were brought
into conformance with RFC 1738 it would "break" (in a Pickwickian
sense) vast quantities of defective HTML.

I strongly disagree with half of Postel's Principle.

But, if the ua.edu server treats mailbox references as case-insensitive,
who cares how they appear in IBM-Main?

-- gil

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Lower ibm-main

2016-02-02 Thread Ed Finnell
Hopefully it doesn't matter and either case will be routed to the server. 

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