Re: R/W access to HMC

2012-12-30 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2012-12-29 21:40, retired mainframer pisze:

I'm confused.  If you want to transfer text data (in either direction)
between the HMC and a memory stick, you need to mount the stick in the HMC.

Yes, indeed!
Just imagine: I mount the USB stick during a visit in remote location, 
and then I can change USB stick content withut revisting the location! 
That's what I want to achieve!




I never used remote access to the HMC so I don't know if the import/export
functions will support a text transfer between the HMC (server) and your
workstation (client).

That's what am I asking for.


But if it does support such a transfer, why would you bother with the memory
stick?

Because it does NOT. Did you ever try to use it?
Even Old OS/2-based version (1.xx) of HMC had limited access to HMC's disk.



A file on a memory stick on the workstation is just Q:\x.txt which
is no different to the transfer protocol than one on your hard drive
(C:\x.txt).
See above. There WAS a diffrenence. Big difference. C: could not be a 
source of such file, while removable drive could be.
BTW: nowadays pathnames like X:\dir1\dir2\...\file1 are no longer valid. 
Reason: HMC 2.xx are Linux based. Linux filesystem looks a little bit 
differently.




I wonder if the HMC backup functions will support any destination other than
the local (to the HMC) CD/DVD drive.

?
Do we talk about backup functions?

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Re: R/W access to HMC

2012-12-29 Thread R.S.
Yes, I can import IOCP txt from memory stick, but I want to UPLOAD the 
file TO memory stick from my workstation. Reason: the HMC and CPC reside 
in remote location. I can power-up the machine remotely, IPL, 
deactivate, change reset profiles, configure OSA-ICC, everything 
remotely EXCEPT new IOCP upload. I don't want to interconnect HMC-SE 
private network with my corpo-network, as it is not recommended.


(Yes, I know I can upload IOCDS directly from z/OS image, but this is 
not the same)


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W dniu 2012-12-28 20:23, retired mainframer pisze:

On the HMC that came with our z10, you could import IOCP text files from a
USB memory stick.  It had a CD/DVD reader/writer but I don't remember if you
could import from that.

You could also export screen shots for inclusion in procedure or training
documentation.

:: -Original Message-
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:: Behalf Of R.S.
:: Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 6:15 AM
:: To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
:: Subject: R/W access to HMC
::
:: Is there any supported method to access HMC media (USB stick, maybe
:: other) in R/W mode?
::
:: My goal is to update IOCP.txt files on the stick then read them from SE
:: to build IOCDS.
::
:: I mean HMC version 2.x (Linux based).
::
:: In the old good OS/2 it was feasible.






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Re: R/W access to HMC

2012-12-29 Thread retired mainframer
I'm confused.  If you want to transfer text data (in either direction)
between the HMC and a memory stick, you need to mount the stick in the HMC.

I never used remote access to the HMC so I don't know if the import/export
functions will support a text transfer between the HMC (server) and your
workstation (client).

But if it does support such a transfer, why would you bother with the memory
stick?  A file on a memory stick on the workstation is just Q:\x.txt which
is no different to the transfer protocol than one on your hard drive
(C:\x.txt).

I wonder if the HMC backup functions will support any destination other than
the local (to the HMC) CD/DVD drive.

:: -Original Message-
:: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
:: Behalf Of R.S.
:: Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 1:55 AM
:: To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
:: Subject: Re: R/W access to HMC
::
:: Yes, I can import IOCP txt from memory stick, but I want to UPLOAD the
:: file TO memory stick from my workstation. Reason: the HMC and CPC reside
:: in remote location. I can power-up the machine remotely, IPL,
:: deactivate, change reset profiles, configure OSA-ICC, everything
:: remotely EXCEPT new IOCP upload. I don't want to interconnect HMC-SE
:: private network with my corpo-network, as it is not recommended.
::
:: (Yes, I know I can upload IOCDS directly from z/OS image, but this is
:: not the same)
::
:: W dniu 2012-12-28 20:23, retired mainframer pisze:
::  On the HMC that came with our z10, you could import IOCP text files
:: from a
::  USB memory stick.  It had a CD/DVD reader/writer but I don't remember
:: if you
::  could import from that.
:: 
::  You could also export screen shots for inclusion in procedure or
:: training
::  documentation.
:: 
::  :: -Original Message-
::  :: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-
:: m...@listserv.ua.edu] On
::  :: Behalf Of R.S.
::  :: Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 6:15 AM
::  :: To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
::  :: Subject: R/W access to HMC
::  ::
::  :: Is there any supported method to access HMC media (USB stick,
:: maybe
::  :: other) in R/W mode?
::  ::
::  :: My goal is to update IOCP.txt files on the stick then read them
:: from SE
::  :: to build IOCDS.

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R/W access to HMC

2012-12-28 Thread R.S.
Is there any supported method to access HMC media (USB stick, maybe 
other) in R/W mode?


My goal is to update IOCP.txt files on the stick then read them from SE 
to build IOCDS.


I mean HMC version 2.x (Linux based).

In the old good OS/2 it was feasible.

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Re: R/W access to HMC

2012-12-28 Thread retired mainframer
On the HMC that came with our z10, you could import IOCP text files from a
USB memory stick.  It had a CD/DVD reader/writer but I don't remember if you
could import from that.

You could also export screen shots for inclusion in procedure or training
documentation.

:: -Original Message-
:: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
:: Behalf Of R.S.
:: Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 6:15 AM
:: To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
:: Subject: R/W access to HMC
::
:: Is there any supported method to access HMC media (USB stick, maybe
:: other) in R/W mode?
::
:: My goal is to update IOCP.txt files on the stick then read them from SE
:: to build IOCDS.
::
:: I mean HMC version 2.x (Linux based).
::
:: In the old good OS/2 it was feasible.

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