Re: Is there an MVS service that will list IDENTIFYed entry points?
By "I see the loaded names but not any IDENTIFY names" I meant that in the particular dump I was looking at every CDE was for a loaded module, which left me wondering whether IDENTIFY would be represented or not. (NOT alleging some defect in which IDENTIFY names were omitted.) By "entry name is not in the CDE list and that is the answer" I meant and that is the answer to my question, which was "did module A do an IDENTIFY for FOO?" And the answer is "it did not (because it's not in the CDE list)" which is a good answer. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 4:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there an MVS service that will list IDENTIFYed entry points? In a SYSUDUMP I can see the names of loaded modules, but not (unless I am missing something) any names added by IDENTIFY. Is there a service that will return to me the names of all entry points added with IDENTIFY? This seems really unlikely. I don't know where you "see the names" but perhaps you should consider using SYSMDUMP. Everything is captured within a CDE. And most things that format module lists simply run through all the CDEs. If you're asking how to tell something that was IDENTIFYed as opposed to LOADed (for example), that's a different question. CSVINFO is the intended way to loop through all the modules (basically looping through all the CDEs on the job pack queue). And the CDE list does indeed contain the answer. The entrypoint is not there, but that is my answer. That cannot be the case. If you have the CDE, then you have the name and you have the entry point. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Is there an MVS service that will list IDENTIFYed entry points?
In a SYSUDUMP I can see the names of loaded modules, but not (unless I am missing something) any names added by IDENTIFY. Is there a service that will return to me the names of all entry points added with IDENTIFY? This seems really unlikely. I don't know where you "see the names" but perhaps you should consider using SYSMDUMP. Everything is captured within a CDE. And most things that format module lists simply run through all the CDEs. If you're asking how to tell something that was IDENTIFYed as opposed to LOADed (for example), that's a different question. CSVINFO is the intended way to loop through all the modules (basically looping through all the CDEs on the job pack queue). And the CDE list does indeed contain the answer. The entrypoint is not there, but that is my answer. That cannot be the case. If you have the CDE, then you have the name and you have the entry point. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Is there an MVS service that will list IDENTIFYed entry points?
The PDS command (StarTool) is very good at mapping and manipulating load modules. I have not tried it with an entry point created only by IDENTIFY, but it's worth a shot. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 12:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Is there an MVS service that will list IDENTIFYed entry points? And the CDE list does indeed contain the answer. The entrypoint is not there, but that is my answer. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 10:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there an MVS service that will list IDENTIFYed entry points? You should see a CDE for the alias. You can use CSVINFO to retrieve a list. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 1:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Is there an MVS service that will list IDENTIFYed entry points? In a SYSUDUMP I can see the names of loaded modules, but not (unless I am missing something) any names added by IDENTIFY. Is there a service that will return to me the names of all entry points added with IDENTIFY? CSVQUERY will tell me about one particular entry point name but what if I wanted to list them all? I'd like a programming service but I would settle for a console command or the like. The environment is program A loads program B. I am wondering if A is first IDENTIFYing entrypoint FOO. I am proposing writing my own B replacement -- it does not really have to do what B does, it just has to load and run -- and query whether entrypoint FOO is IDENTIFYed or not. The new B could run authorized if that is what is needed. Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Is there an MVS service that will list IDENTIFYed entry points?
And the CDE list does indeed contain the answer. The entrypoint is not there, but that is my answer. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 10:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there an MVS service that will list IDENTIFYed entry points? You should see a CDE for the alias. You can use CSVINFO to retrieve a list. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 1:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Is there an MVS service that will list IDENTIFYed entry points? In a SYSUDUMP I can see the names of loaded modules, but not (unless I am missing something) any names added by IDENTIFY. Is there a service that will return to me the names of all entry points added with IDENTIFY? CSVQUERY will tell me about one particular entry point name but what if I wanted to list them all? I'd like a programming service but I would settle for a console command or the like. The environment is program A loads program B. I am wondering if A is first IDENTIFYing entrypoint FOO. I am proposing writing my own B replacement -- it does not really have to do what B does, it just has to load and run -- and query whether entrypoint FOO is IDENTIFYed or not. The new B could run authorized if that is what is needed. Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Is there an MVS service that will list IDENTIFYed entry points?
Perfect. Thanks, Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 10:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there an MVS service that will list IDENTIFYed entry points? You should see a CDE for the alias. You can use CSVINFO to retrieve a list. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 1:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Is there an MVS service that will list IDENTIFYed entry points? In a SYSUDUMP I can see the names of loaded modules, but not (unless I am missing something) any names added by IDENTIFY. Is there a service that will return to me the names of all entry points added with IDENTIFY? CSVQUERY will tell me about one particular entry point name but what if I wanted to list them all? I'd like a programming service but I would settle for a console command or the like. The environment is program A loads program B. I am wondering if A is first IDENTIFYing entrypoint FOO. I am proposing writing my own B replacement -- it does not really have to do what B does, it just has to load and run -- and query whether entrypoint FOO is IDENTIFYed or not. The new B could run authorized if that is what is needed. Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Is there an MVS service that will list IDENTIFYed entry points?
You should see a CDE for the alias. You can use CSVINFO to retrieve a list. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 1:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Is there an MVS service that will list IDENTIFYed entry points? In a SYSUDUMP I can see the names of loaded modules, but not (unless I am missing something) any names added by IDENTIFY. Is there a service that will return to me the names of all entry points added with IDENTIFY? CSVQUERY will tell me about one particular entry point name but what if I wanted to list them all? I'd like a programming service but I would settle for a console command or the like. The environment is program A loads program B. I am wondering if A is first IDENTIFYing entrypoint FOO. I am proposing writing my own B replacement -- it does not really have to do what B does, it just has to load and run -- and query whether entrypoint FOO is IDENTIFYed or not. The new B could run authorized if that is what is needed. Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
