Re: PDS directory

[Pew, Curtis G]

On Mar 15, 2018, at 12:59 PM, scott Ford  wrote:
> 
> The reason we need to do this is to be able to write scripts to build a
> module manifest list with source code versioning from GIT.

Then I suspect the IDR data suggestion is your best bet.


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Re: PDS directory

[scott Ford]

Guys/Gals:

The reason we need to do this is to be able to write scripts to build a
module manifest list with source code versioning from GIT.

Scott


On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 6:11 PM Binyamin Dissen <bdis...@dissensoftware.com>
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> We need the OP to indicate how he would retrieve the information to get a
> better idea of what he would need.
>
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 17:47:01 + Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote:
>
> :>My guess is that he means the user data in the directory entry for a
> specific member, in which case inserting data is dicey. Possibly adding IDR
> data for the member would satisfy his requirements..
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> :>What is the "directory block header"?
> :>
> :>How would it be read?
> :>
> :>On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:26:57 -0400 scott Ford <idfli...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> :>
> :>:>I need to insert 30 bytes of user data in the directory block header
> of our product programs.
> :>:>Is there I can do that via the Binder or do I have to write an exit to
> BPAM processing, which I am trying to avoid. We are trying to insert GIT
> tag information into the directory header for our programs.
> :>
> :>:>Does any one else know another way ? These are COBOL and Assembler
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Re: PDS directory

[Binyamin Dissen]

We need the OP to indicate how he would retrieve the information to get a
better idea of what he would need.

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 17:47:01 + Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote:

:>My guess is that he means the user data in the directory entry for a specific 
member, in which case inserting data is dicey. Possibly adding IDR data for the 
member would satisfy his requirements..
:>
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Binyamin Dissen <bdis...@dissensoftware.com>
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:>
:>What is the "directory block header"?
:>
:>How would it be read?
:>
:>On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:26:57 -0400 scott Ford <idfli...@gmail.com> wrote:
:>
:>:>I need to insert 30 bytes of user data in the directory block header of our 
product programs.
:>:>Is there I can do that via the Binder or do I have to write an exit to BPAM 
processing, which I am trying to avoid. We are trying to insert GIT tag 
information into the directory header for our programs.
:>
:>:>Does any one else know another way ? These are COBOL and Assembler

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Re: PDS directory

[Seymour J Metz]

You can not use BPAM, BSAM or QSAM on a program library.  Unless you are a 
vendor with access to the FAMS documentation, you are limited to the BINDER API.

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On 12 March 2018 at 13:57, Paul Gilmartin
<000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:26:57 -0400, scott Ford wrote:
>
>>I need to insert 30 bytes of user data in the directory block header of our 
>>product programs.
>>Is there I can do that via the Binder or do I have to write an exit to BPAM 
>>processing, which I am trying to avoid. We are trying to insert GIT tag 
>>information into the directory header for our programs.
>>
> The Assembler macro STOW allows suppplying user information for a PDS 
> directory
> member entry.

Does STOW allow putting in such information to a PDSE that contains
Program Objects? Or is that functionality reserved to the Binder (via
the much rumoured FAMS...?)?

In any case I would think the Binder API would be a better bet than
writing one's own user data.

Tony H.

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Re: PDS directory

[Tony Harminc]

On 12 March 2018 at 13:57, Paul Gilmartin
<000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:26:57 -0400, scott Ford wrote:
>
>>I need to insert 30 bytes of user data in the directory block header of our 
>>product programs.
>>Is there I can do that via the Binder or do I have to write an exit to BPAM 
>>processing, which I am trying to avoid. We are trying to insert GIT tag 
>>information into the directory header for our programs.
>>
> The Assembler macro STOW allows suppplying user information for a PDS 
> directory
> member entry.

Does STOW allow putting in such information to a PDSE that contains
Program Objects? Or is that functionality reserved to the Binder (via
the much rumoured FAMS...?)?

In any case I would think the Binder API would be a better bet than
writing one's own user data.

Tony H.

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Re: PDS directory

[Seymour J Metz]

I read his message as referring to load modules or program objects; changing 
anything but the SSI would cause problems. IDR might do the trick.


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Subject: Re: PDS directory

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:26:57 -0400, scott Ford wrote:

>All,
>
>I need to insert 30 bytes of user data in the directory block header of our 
>product programs.
>Is there I can do that via the Binder or do I have to write an exit to BPAM 
>processing, which I am trying to avoid. We are trying to insert GIT tag 
>information into the directory header for our programs.
>
The Assembler macro STOW allows suppplying user information for a PDS directory
member entry.

>Does any one else know another way ? These are COBOL and Assembler

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Re: PDS directory

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:26:57 -0400, scott Ford wrote:

>All,
>
>I need to insert 30 bytes of user data in the directory block header of our 
>product programs.
>Is there I can do that via the Binder or do I have to write an exit to BPAM 
>processing, which I am trying to avoid. We are trying to insert GIT tag 
>information into the directory header for our programs.
> 
The Assembler macro STOW allows suppplying user information for a PDS directory
member entry.

>Does any one else know another way ? These are COBOL and Assembler

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Re: PDS directory

[Seymour J Metz]

There is no directory header block. There is a user data field for each 
directory entry, but that is preempted by the linkage editor and binder. You 
could add an SSI, but that's limited to 4 bytes. Would it saqtisfy your 
requirement to put the git tag in the IDR data?


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Subject: PDS directory

All,

I need to insert 30 bytes of user data in the directory block header of our 
product programs.
Is there I can do that via the Binder or do I have to write an exit to BPAM 
processing, which I am trying to avoid. We are trying to insert GIT tag 
information into the directory header for our programs.

Does any one else know another way ? These are COBOL and Assembler

Regards,
Scott

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Re: PDS directory

[Seymour J Metz]

My guess is that he means the user data in the directory entry for a specific 
member, in which case inserting data is dicey. Possibly adding IDR data for the 
member would satisfy his requirements..


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Subject: Re: PDS directory

What is the "directory block header"?

How would it be read?

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:26:57 -0400 scott Ford <idfli...@gmail.com> wrote:

:>I need to insert 30 bytes of user data in the directory block header of our 
product programs.
:>Is there I can do that via the Binder or do I have to write an exit to BPAM 
processing, which I am trying to avoid. We are trying to insert GIT tag 
information into the directory header for our programs.

:>Does any one else know another way ? These are COBOL and Assembler

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Re: PDS directory

[Binyamin Dissen]

What is the "directory block header"?

How would it be read?

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:26:57 -0400 scott Ford  wrote:

:>I need to insert 30 bytes of user data in the directory block header of our 
product programs.
:>Is there I can do that via the Binder or do I have to write an exit to BPAM 
processing, which I am trying to avoid. We are trying to insert GIT tag 
information into the directory header for our programs.

:>Does any one else know another way ? These are COBOL and Assembler

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Re: PDS Directory Errors in zOS 1.13

[Jim Mulder]

> According to my uncertain memory, there was a change in PDS 
> directory code between zOS 1.12 and zOS 1.13.  This caused PDS 
> directory errors under certain conditions, resulting in corrupted or
> lost pointers.  If the affected member was not referenced, the 
> problem remained hidden.  Unfortunately for me, I usually found out 
> when I compressed the PDS.  The issue was fixed in 2.1 . 
> I understood that one fix for 1.13 was to restore the old zOS 1.12 
> PDS code.  But I never saw a reference to an APAR or other 
> 'official' fix.  Does anyone remember this who could point me in the
> right direction?

IEBCOPY -  APAR OA40379

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