Re: Uptime?
David always loves a reach around. In fact, this site is full of guys, mostly white, who love agreeing with each other. Because they don’t want to hurt someone’s feelings for fear that person might be their next employer or reference. It’s like a cult. Lots of companies promise and deliver 5 9’s. Because to not provide it can cost them millions of dollars and lots of bad press/lost customers. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, August 28, 2023, 8:36 PM, David Crayford wrote: > On 29 Aug 2023, at 8:18 am, Gibney, Dave > <03b5261cfd78-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Yes, IBM z hardware and z/OS properly sysplexed can achieve many 9s of >reliability. I don't think this is in dispute. > But, computers are tools that perform useful things for people. It should be > clear that actual availability of application function at the outside > endpoints is not nearly as many 9s. > It's fairly clear that even IBM support sites don't run solely on Sysplexed >zHardware under z/OS achieving lot's of 9s. Nicely articulated. No matter how reliable your servers are if your network provider only offers a 99.99% SLA then your applications are not 99.999% available. IBM zCloud, which runs all the redundancy, only offers a 99.99% SLA which is perfectly reasonable and actually very good https://www.ibm.com/downloads/cas/2DALN6RJ. It’s become fashionable for network service providers to offer 100% availability SLA’s but as usual, the devil is in the detail. If you read the small print it’s quite clear that it’s not worth very much other than marking material for the provider. https://business.bt.com/content/dam/bt/business/v2/PDF/broadband-internet/btnet_sla.pdf > I suspect a few LPARs in Sysplex over a couple CECs running nothing but z/OS >would never need to come fully down. An expensive POC, but also pretty useless. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Uptime?
> On 29 Aug 2023, at 8:18 am, Gibney, Dave > <03b5261cfd78-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Yes, IBM z hardware and z/OS properly sysplexed can achieve many 9s of > reliability. I don't think this is in dispute. > But, computers are tools that perform useful things for people. It should be > clear that actual availability of application function at the outside > endpoints is not nearly as many 9s. > It's fairly clear that even IBM support sites don't run solely on Sysplexed > zHardware under z/OS achieving lot's of 9s. Nicely articulated. No matter how reliable your servers are if your network provider only offers a 99.99% SLA then your applications are not 99.999% available. IBM zCloud, which runs all the redundancy, only offers a 99.99% SLA which is perfectly reasonable and actually very good https://www.ibm.com/downloads/cas/2DALN6RJ. It’s become fashionable for network service providers to offer 100% availability SLA’s but as usual, the devil is in the detail. If you read the small print it’s quite clear that it’s not worth very much other than marking material for the provider. https://business.bt.com/content/dam/bt/business/v2/PDF/broadband-internet/btnet_sla.pdf > I suspect a few LPARs in Sysplex over a couple CECs running nothing but z/OS > would never need to come fully down. An expensive POC, but also pretty > useless. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Uptime?
lol, hopefully, when you need your health records to check on drug interactions after your 3am illness, your health care provider won’t be running backups and they aren’t available. Or a banking transaction from China to Citigroup can process 24 by 7. Lots of companies offer 99.999. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, August 28, 2023, 8:18 PM, Gibney, Dave <03b5261cfd78-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: Yes, IBM z hardware and z/OS properly sysplexed can achieve many 9s of reliability. I don't think this is in dispute. But, computers are tools that perform useful things for people. It should be clear that actual availability of application function at the outside endpoints is not nearly as many 9s. It's fairly clear that even IBM support sites don't run solely on Sysplexed zHardware under z/OS achieving lot's of 9s. I suspect a few LPARs in Sysplex over a couple CECs running nothing but z/OS would never need to come fully down. An expensive POC, but also pretty useless. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
