Re: Fwd: Religion provides statistical proof of the Creation of our civilization. This is .. really ... the Apocalypse. Today, see Eden and Exodus in superposition.

[Jon Butler]

It's also interesting that according to the OT that the value of PI used to be 
3.00, or perhaps the definition of "round" was different back then?

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Re: Religion provides statistical proof of the Creation of our civilization. This is .. really ... the Apocalypse. Today, see Eden and Exodus in superposition.

[Stevet]

Since you asked, and are feeding the troll by doing so, how do you have a 
semblance of logic with your behavior?

But, nevertheless, I shall endeavor to answer. 

I believe in God. However, my theology does not match Christianity because I 
tend to use logic in reading the Bible. 

As a result, the Big Bang is NOT denied within the Bible as far as I can tell. 

But because this forum is for Main-frame discussions and things generally 
related, I avoid "religious" argument, with the exception of things such as 
USS. ;-)

Sent from iPhone - small keyboard fat fingers - expect spellinf errots.

> On Mar 28, 2016, at 8:44 AM, Ted MacNEIL  wrote:
> 
> How can you even have a semblance of logic intertwined with faith?
> 

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Re: Religion provides statistical proof of the Creation of our civilization. This is .. really ... the Apocalypse. Today, see Eden and Exodus in superposition.

[Ted MacNEIL]

How can you even have a semblance of logic intertwined with faith?

Go drink the kool-aid!

-teD
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From: Adam M. Dobrin
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civilization. This is .. really ... the Apocalypse. Today, see Eden and Exodus 
in superposition.

Funny you mention logic, I rely on that stuff. Reading will surprise you.

Http://shrub.lamc.la
Http://theword.lamc.la
Http://babel.lamc.la

The whole book is about proof, stuff you can see... and speak.
On Mar 27, 2016 10:09 PM, "CM Poncelet"  wrote:

> This place believes in logic, not religion.
>
> Adam M. Dobrin wrote:
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> Honestly, he uses linux. Look at Exodus, in reverse. .. "let there be
>> light."
>>
>> Http://sangrael.lamc.la
>> On Mar 27, 2016 5:47 PM, "William Donzelli"  wrote:
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>>> While many IBM-MAIN members including myself do believe in God, this
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Re: Religion provides statistical proof of the Creation of our civilization. This is .. really ... the Apocalypse. Today, see Eden and Exodus in superposition.

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On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 11:02:04 +, Martin Packer wrote:

>My mail rules are delivering this guy's mail to junk.

Please don't feed the troll.

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Re: Fwd: Religion provides statistical proof of the Creation of our civilization. This is .. really ... the Apocalypse. Today, see Eden and Exodus in superposition.

[Adam M. Dobrin]

Funny you mention logic, I rely on that stuff.  Reading will surprise you.

Http://shrub.lamc.la
Http://theword.lamc.la
Http://babel.lamc.la

The whole book is about proof, stuff you can see... and speak.
On Mar 27, 2016 10:09 PM, "CM Poncelet"  wrote:

> This place believes in logic, not religion.
>
> Adam M. Dobrin wrote:
>
> Honestly, he uses linux.  Look at Exodus, in reverse. .. "let there be
>> light."
>>
>> Http://sangrael.lamc.la
>> On Mar 27, 2016 5:47 PM, "William Donzelli"  wrote:
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>>
>>
>>> While many IBM-MAIN members including myself do believe in God, this


>>> discussion list is NOT about religion, but about mainframes.
>>>
>>> God runs a Unisys MCP shop, anyway.
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Re: Fwd: Religion provides statistical proof of the Creation of our civilization. This is .. really ... the Apocalypse. Today, see Eden and Exodus in superposition.

[Martin Packer]

My mail rules are delivering this guy's mail to junk.

And I do agree - though as an atheist I happen not to be offended; It's a 
kind of attention seeking (but not MY kind). :-)

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From:   Elardus Engelbrecht 
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Subject:    Re: Fwd: Religion provides statistical proof of the 
Creation of our civilization. This is .. really ... the Apocalypse. Today, 
see Eden and Exodus in superposition.
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Adam M. Dobrin wrote:

>Religion provides statistical  [... lots of crap snipped ... ]

While many IBM-MAIN members including myself do believe in God, this 
discussion list is NOT about religion, but about mainframes.

To Darren, (IBM-MAIN administrator), please get rid of this person. It is 
the same bored junkie who posted on 12 March.

Groete / Greetings
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Re: Fwd: Religion provides statistical proof of the Creation of our civilization. This is .. really ... the Apocalypse. Today, see Eden and Exodus in superposition.

[CM Poncelet]

This place believes in logic, not religion.

Adam M. Dobrin wrote:


Honestly, he uses linux.  Look at Exodus, in reverse. .. "let there be
light."

Http://sangrael.lamc.la
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discussion list is NOT about religion, but about mainframes.

God runs a Unisys MCP shop, anyway.

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Re: Fwd: Religion provides statistical proof of the Creation of our civilization. This is .. really ... the Apocalypse. Today, see Eden and Exodus in superposition.

[Adam M. Dobrin]

Honestly, he uses linux.  Look at Exodus, in reverse. .. "let there be
light."

Http://sangrael.lamc.la
On Mar 27, 2016 5:47 PM, "William Donzelli"  wrote:

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Re: Religion provides statistical proof of the Creation of our civilization. This is .. really ... the Apocalypse. Today, see Eden and Exodus in superposition.

[Ted MacNEIL]

Our religious beliefs are our business. This is SPAM!

-teD
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From: Adam M. Dobrin
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Subject: Re: Religion provides statistical proof of the Creation of our 
civilization. This is .. really ... the Apocalypse. Today, see Eden and Exodus 
in superposition.

Hell is full of blind people, trying desperately to drown the light that
would have saved them.

Here's your "Amazing Grance,"

http://theword.lamc.la

On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Scott Ford  wrote:

> Elardus I will second that...
>
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> On Sunday, March 27, 2016, Elardus Engelbrecht <
> elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:
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> > Adam M. Dobrin wrote:
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> > >Religion provides statistical [... lots of crap snipped ... ]
> >
> > While many IBM-MAIN members including myself do believe in God, this
> > discussion list is NOT about religion, but about mainframes.
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> > To Darren, (IBM-MAIN administrator), please get rid of this person. It is
> > the same bored junkie who posted on 12 March.
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> > Groete / Greetings
> > Elardus Engelbrecht
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Re: Religion provides statistical proof of the Creation of our civilization. This is .. really ... the Apocalypse. Today, see Eden and Exodus in superposition.

[Scott Ford]

Maybe RCA Spectra

On Sunday, March 27, 2016, William Donzelli  wrote:

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Re: Fwd: Religion provides statistical proof of the Creation of our civilization. This is .. really ... the Apocalypse. Today, see Eden and Exodus in superposition.

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> While many IBM-MAIN members including myself do believe in God, this 
> discussion list is NOT about religion, but about mainframes.

God runs a Unisys MCP shop, anyway.

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Re: Religion provides statistical proof of the Creation of our civilization. This is .. really ... the Apocalypse. Today, see Eden and Exodus in superposition.

[Adam M. Dobrin]

Hell is full of blind people, trying desperately to drown the light that
would have saved them.

Here's your "Amazing Grance,"

http://theword.lamc.la

On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Scott Ford  wrote:

> Elardus I will second that...
>
>
>
> On Sunday, March 27, 2016, Elardus Engelbrecht <
> elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:
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> > Adam M. Dobrin wrote:
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> > >Religion provides statistical  [... lots of crap snipped ... ]
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> > While many IBM-MAIN members including myself do believe in God, this
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> > To Darren, (IBM-MAIN administrator), please get rid of this person. It is
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Re: Religion provides statistical proof of the Creation of our civilization. This is .. really ... the Apocalypse. Today, see Eden and Exodus in superposition.

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Elardus I will second that...



On Sunday, March 27, 2016, Elardus Engelbrecht <
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:

> Adam M. Dobrin wrote:
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> >Religion provides statistical  [... lots of crap snipped ... ]
>
> While many IBM-MAIN members including myself do believe in God, this
> discussion list is NOT about religion, but about mainframes.
>
> To Darren, (IBM-MAIN administrator), please get rid of this person. It is
> the same bored junkie who posted on 12 March.
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> Groete / Greetings
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Re: Fwd: Religion provides statistical proof of the Creation of our civilization. This is .. really ... the Apocalypse. Today, see Eden and Exodus in superposition.

[Elardus Engelbrecht]

Adam M. Dobrin wrote:

>Religion provides statistical  [... lots of crap snipped ... ]

While many IBM-MAIN members including myself do believe in God, this discussion 
list is NOT about religion, but about mainframes.

To Darren, (IBM-MAIN administrator), please get rid of this person. It is the 
same bored junkie who posted on 12 March.

Groete / Greetings
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Fwd: Religion provides statistical proof of the Creation of our civilization. This is .. really ... the Apocalypse. Today, see Eden and Exodus in superposition.

[Adam M. Dobrin]

Religion provides statistical proof of the Creation of our civilization.
*Not what you expected to start the Second Coming?  Try this:
http://sangrael.lamc.la
  *

Download the book in PDF
, MOBI
, EPUB


I've been talking about a message all around us, one that is here to help
guide us through the "Singularity."  The thing we use that name to describe
has been happening throughout our entire history; it's highlighted strongly
by religion.  Adam's Apple and Isaac Newton are tied at the hip, and *the
gravity of that "Revelation" *is furthered by a link between James Clerk Max
*well* and Abraham's "well."  It's a well of Biblical light, one that sheds
a new outlook on how an outside force has guided the imparting of
scientific knowledge upon us.  Point in fact, both of those scientists went
to Trinity College, and that Apple fell in the year 1*666*.

There is significant evidence showing foreshadowing of modern computing
 and computing
concepts  in
scripture, but right now I want to focus on another piece of *light--one
that I believe is statistically verifiable.*
Holy Names provide a basis for a Statistical study of language, one which
will show that ancient Hebrew names contain foreknowledge of modern
*English* and concepts of today.


This is a *paradox,* it's something that's impossible to happen within the
structure of reality that we currently all believe it.  *If verified,* it
proves that there is a guiding hand influencing the development of
language, one which was aware of today thousands of years ago when the
Bible was written.

The "Rosetta stone" for this study is found through the parable of Christ
feeding the masses "fish."  That story is commonly related to the prophets
Elisha and Elija, and it is through their names that we find an ancient
"equality."  "El" and "Ha" are both words for "the" in Spanish and Hebrew
respectively; and this *logically correct statement *hidden in the names of
these two prophets opens the door to seeing that the English words "on,"
"is," and "ha" (or "ja" in other languages) make significant and miraculous
appearances within Holy Names.  (http://babel.lamc.la
)

This equality is furthered by seeing modern reference in both our belief
and songs to the idea that Jesus is "Us."  J "es" Us.  Don't believe me?
An ancient Hebrew name for *Is*rael (Ra is El, the "light of the world...
the Son God") follows the same pattern as Elisha adding the Hebrew word for
"is" after the Spanish "es."  *It's Jeshurun, *and it brings us to a
pan-religious link between the words "run," "lam." and the Lamb of God.
The Lamb of God... is*Lam*.

Jesus is the Key, that's what John 15:7 tells us, and part of that is
because of the link between "es" and "is," another part is a link between
the story of the *Trial* of Christ, the battle *Sam*'s son goes through in
the book of *Judges, *the *Fall* of Adam ... and *Sam*ael's Paschal
Lamb--and the Lamb of Revelation.  It's a personal story, one about how
this revelation was received while I was "*on the lam," *a spelling
correction that is ingrained into the name of a religion.


That same tie binds the story of Isaac's near "burning" on an Altar to the
Crucifixion of Christ--something that is called a "type" in religious
circles, but doesn't really show how much these stories are related.
 Genesis 22 makes a
big deal about *fire and water* being linked by this event; and Matthew 3:11
tells us that Christ will return with *baptism* in those same two
"elements."  *Isa*ac and Jesus are linked explicitly and unnoticed by the
Muslim word for Jesus... *Isa.*
*Isaac means "he laughs," and his "Ha" binds Abram to his Covenant,
El-is-Ha to is Is-Ra-El, the Ka and Ba of Horus, and a number of Holy Names
beginning with "the."
*

Abraham's name was changed from Abram, and again nobody seems to notice
that the two letter difference matches perfectly to the meaning of his
son's name... "He laughs" at the "burning" that happens to be a bit of a
funny story, to me anyway.

The truth is in the eyes of Horus and Ra, which together show us that there
is also reference and foreknowledge of this event in ancient Egyptian
mythology.  Our "Trinity" as well as the Hebrew *Shema *unite the Father
and Son as "one."  In Egypt, this is a unification of the concepts of Ba
and Ka--the Spirit and Mind (which are generally related to Horus) as a
single force... the Ha.  These four two-letter words, Ka, Ba, Ra, and Ha
show us that