Re: SMPE recreate a target library... Possible?
@Tom Marchant Cloning is even better as it enables ease of rollback. Dejan Stamatovic CROZ D.O.O. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMPE recreate a target library... Possible?
One way of effectively providing a backup is to clone the target zone before applying maintenance. Then apply to the clone. -- Tom Marchant On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 09:16:58 -0600, Dejan Stamatovic wrote: >I agree totally. Only backups provide a sure way out of problems during >applying maintenance. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMPE recreate a target library... Possible?
@ Michael Babcock I agree totally. Only backups provide a sure way out of problems during applying maintenance. All other methods mentioned here, might or might not work. So just to make a point here: Make sure you have a consistent backup of all affected data sets before applying maintenance. SMPE might not be able to recreate a target library or it might take too much effort to use SMPE to do that. Dejan Stamatovic CROZ D.O.O. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMPE recreate a target library... Possible?
Kurt, as always, many thanks. Rob On Wed, Jan 4, 2023, 08:30 Kurt J. Quackenbush wrote: > Yes, the GENERATE command will generate jobs to construct target libraries > from the content in the distribution libraries. However, APPLY REDO later > for more than a handful of PTFs might be dicey. If you go this route I > suggest you first ACCEPT the PTFs that have not been accepted yet, then use > GENERATE, and forego APPLY REDO. Note, GENERATE will generate JCL to > construct ALL target libraries, not just the zFS... be careful if you don't > run the entire generated job stream as you have a great potential to create > target libraries containing mismatched service levels. > > Depending on the product(s) you might be better off re-installing from > scratch... its safer. > > > Look at the GENERATE command. It should do what you want, but I haven't > tried it. > > >> So I know all the information is in SMPE. I'm looking for if there's > >> an easy way to do this.. The target library got smashed actually It's > >> a ZFS file and none of the backups are available, but the distribution > >> libraries are all intact.. I'm looking for an easy way to repopulate > >> from the distribution libraries. And then I suppose I would have to > >> apply redo any PTFs that were not accepted. > > Kurt Quackenbush > IBM | z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management | ku...@us.ibm.com > > Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMPE recreate a target library... Possible?
And start making backups! I always make backups of target and dlibs, SMPE libs, ZFSs, SYSRES, and DLIB volumes too. All right before applying maintenance. On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 4:00 AM Lizette Koehler wrote: > You might want to open a case with IBM SMP/e on this issue > > Not knowing the product or how it is packed, you might see if they can > help. > > Some of the ZONE* commands may work. But I am not sure. > > > Lizette > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Rob Schramm > Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2023 2:07 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: SMPE recreate a target library... Possible? > > So I know all the information is in SMPE. I'm looking for if there's an > easy way to do this.. The target library got smashed actually It's a ZFS > file and none of the backups are available, but the distribution libraries > are all intact.. I'm looking for an easy way to repopulate from the > distribution libraries. And then I suppose I would have to apply redo any > PTFs that were not accepted. > > Any thoughts and comments would be welcome. > > Rob > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Michael Babcock OneMain Financial z/OS Systems Programmer, Lead -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMPE recreate a target library... Possible?
Yes, the GENERATE command will generate jobs to construct target libraries from the content in the distribution libraries. However, APPLY REDO later for more than a handful of PTFs might be dicey. If you go this route I suggest you first ACCEPT the PTFs that have not been accepted yet, then use GENERATE, and forego APPLY REDO. Note, GENERATE will generate JCL to construct ALL target libraries, not just the zFS... be careful if you don't run the entire generated job stream as you have a great potential to create target libraries containing mismatched service levels. Depending on the product(s) you might be better off re-installing from scratch... its safer. > Look at the GENERATE command. It should do what you want, but I haven't > tried it. >> So I know all the information is in SMPE. I'm looking for if there's >> an easy way to do this.. The target library got smashed actually It's >> a ZFS file and none of the backups are available, but the distribution >> libraries are all intact.. I'm looking for an easy way to repopulate >> from the distribution libraries. And then I suppose I would have to >> apply redo any PTFs that were not accepted. Kurt Quackenbush IBM | z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management | ku...@us.ibm.com Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMPE recreate a target library... Possible?
Look at the GENERATE command. It should do what you want, but I haven't tried it. sas On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 4:07 PM Rob Schramm wrote: > So I know all the information is in SMPE. I'm looking for if there's an > easy way to do this.. The target library got smashed actually It's a ZFS > file and none of the backups are available, but the distribution libraries > are all intact.. I'm looking for an easy way to repopulate from the > distribution libraries. And then I suppose I would have to apply redo any > PTFs that were not accepted. > > Any thoughts and comments would be welcome. > > Rob > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMPE recreate a target library... Possible?
If you did not accept the functions and PTFs, try apply redo since they are still in the SMPPTFand relfiles. *| **Itschak Mugzach | Director | SecuriTeam Software **|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for Z/OS, zLinux and IBM I **| * *|* *Email**: i_mugz...@securiteam.co.il **|* *Mob**: +972 522 986404 **|* *Skype**: ItschakMugzach **|* *Web**: www.Securiteam.co.il **|* On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 12:00 PM Lizette Koehler wrote: > You might want to open a case with IBM SMP/e on this issue > > Not knowing the product or how it is packed, you might see if they can > help. > > Some of the ZONE* commands may work. But I am not sure. > > > Lizette > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Rob Schramm > Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2023 2:07 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: SMPE recreate a target library... Possible? > > So I know all the information is in SMPE. I'm looking for if there's an > easy way to do this.. The target library got smashed actually It's a ZFS > file and none of the backups are available, but the distribution libraries > are all intact.. I'm looking for an easy way to repopulate from the > distribution libraries. And then I suppose I would have to apply redo any > PTFs that were not accepted. > > Any thoughts and comments would be welcome. > > Rob > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMPE recreate a target library... Possible?
You might want to open a case with IBM SMP/e on this issue Not knowing the product or how it is packed, you might see if they can help. Some of the ZONE* commands may work. But I am not sure. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rob Schramm Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2023 2:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SMPE recreate a target library... Possible? So I know all the information is in SMPE. I'm looking for if there's an easy way to do this.. The target library got smashed actually It's a ZFS file and none of the backups are available, but the distribution libraries are all intact.. I'm looking for an easy way to repopulate from the distribution libraries. And then I suppose I would have to apply redo any PTFs that were not accepted. Any thoughts and comments would be welcome. Rob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMPE recreate a target library... Possible?
BUILDMCS. takes 5 seconds to type in the command, many hours to execute :) Re-install of the product might be the best alternative. On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 8:07 AM Rob Schramm wrote: > So I know all the information is in SMPE. I'm looking for if there's an > easy way to do this.. The target library got smashed actually It's a ZFS > file and none of the backups are available, but the distribution libraries > are all intact.. I'm looking for an easy way to repopulate from the > distribution libraries. And then I suppose I would have to apply redo any > PTFs that were not accepted. > > Any thoughts and comments would be welcome. > > Rob > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
SMPE recreate a target library... Possible?
So I know all the information is in SMPE. I'm looking for if there's an easy way to do this.. The target library got smashed actually It's a ZFS file and none of the backups are available, but the distribution libraries are all intact.. I'm looking for an easy way to repopulate from the distribution libraries. And then I suppose I would have to apply redo any PTFs that were not accepted. Any thoughts and comments would be welcome. Rob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
