Re: Vary off path
In 4ee2851a2279b94cb70cd69b174106096ccda...@s1flokydce2kx01.dm0001.info53.com, on 03/06/2013 at 02:25 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com said: The CF command as issued as a z/OS command only configures it off to that LPAR. True, but you can broadcast a command to the entire sysplex. Or is each LPAR a monoplex? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Vary off path
Is there an easy way to VARY off a path? Looking at the commands manual it looks like you have to vary off the path to each device. In z/VM we can vary off a path to every device. VARY OFF PATH D3 TO ALL VARY OFF CHPID D3 I want to vary off the path and the chpid logically, I don't want to physically vary off the chpid until users of the other LPARs have also logically varied off their paths and chpid. -- The postings on this site are my own and don’t necessarily represent Mainline’s positions or opinions Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Vary off path
You can specify a range of devices, does this help? Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 14:31 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Vary off path Is there an easy way to VARY off a path? Looking at the commands manual it looks like you have to vary off the path to each device. In z/VM we can vary off a path to every device. VARY OFF PATH D3 TO ALL VARY OFF CHPID D3 I want to vary off the path and the chpid logically, I don't want to physically vary off the chpid until users of the other LPARs have also logically varied off their paths and chpid. -- The postings on this site are my own and don't necessarily represent Mainline's positions or opinions Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Vary off path
Not really, I have 10 control units with 4 CPHIDs, I need to vary off 2 of the CHPID. That's a lot of ranges. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.comwrote: You can specify a range of devices, does this help? Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 14:31 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Vary off path Is there an easy way to VARY off a path? Looking at the commands manual it looks like you have to vary off the path to each device. In z/VM we can vary off a path to every device. VARY OFF PATH D3 TO ALL VARY OFF CHPID D3 I want to vary off the path and the chpid logically, I don't want to physically vary off the chpid until users of the other LPARs have also logically varied off their paths and chpid. -- The postings on this site are my own and don't necessarily represent Mainline's positions or opinions Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- The postings on this site are my own and don’t necessarily represent Mainline’s positions or opinions Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Vary off path
Mark Pace wrote: Not really, I have 10 control units with 4 CPHIDs, I need to vary off 2 of the CHPID. That's a lot of ranges. What about CF CHP(xx),OFFLINE? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht PS: It is a lng time ago I did that command... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Vary off path
Mwah, 20 ranges in a command script is doable. But, why don't you just CONFIG the 2 CHPIDs OFF per LPAR? z/OS will handle this without problems. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 14:38 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Vary off path Not really, I have 10 control units with 4 CPHIDs, I need to vary off 2 of the CHPID. That's a lot of ranges. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.comwrote: You can specify a range of devices, does this help? Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 14:31 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Vary off path Is there an easy way to VARY off a path? Looking at the commands manual it looks like you have to vary off the path to each device. In z/VM we can vary off a path to every device. VARY OFF PATH D3 TO ALL VARY OFF CHPID D3 I want to vary off the path and the chpid logically, I don't want to physically vary off the chpid until users of the other LPARs have also logically varied off their paths and chpid. -- The postings on this site are my own and don't necessarily represent Mainline's positions or opinions Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- The postings on this site are my own and don't necessarily represent Mainline's positions or opinions Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Vary off path
The CF command as issued as a z/OS command only configures it off to that LPAR. If you go to the HMC single object operations, and do it there, it will take it offline to all images. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 9:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Vary off path As I understand it the CF command will vary the physical CHPID offline to all LPARs, not just logically to the z/OS LPAR. I could be wrong about that. If it does do it physically I can wait until the other LPARs have varied their paths offline and then I'll use the CF command. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Mark Pace wrote: Not really, I have 10 control units with 4 CPHIDs, I need to vary off 2 of the CHPID. That's a lot of ranges. What about CF CHP(xx),OFFLINE? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht PS: It is a lng time ago I did that command... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- The postings on this site are my own and don't necessarily represent Mainline's positions or opinions Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Vary off path
W dniu 2013-03-06 15:17, Mark Pace pisze: As I understand it the CF command will vary the physical CHPID offline to all LPARs, not just logically to the z/OS LPAR. I could be wrong about that. If it does do it physically I can wait until the other LPARs have varied their paths offline and then I'll use the CF command. No. MVS command CF CHP(xx),OFFLINE will offline the chpid for given LPAR only. If you want to make offline all the paths, then it's much easier to offline the chpid. BTW: you can offline the channel from Support Element, then you can do it for all LPARs at the time if you want, but it is unrecommended for live systems! -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wycznie do uytku subowego adresata. Odbiorc moe by jedynie jej adresat z wyczeniem dostpu osób trzecich. Jeeli nie jeste adresatem niniejszej wiadomoci lub pracownikiem upowanionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, e jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne dziaanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i moe by karalne. Jeeli otrzymae t wiadomo omykowo, prosimy niezwocznie zawiadomi nadawc wysyajc odpowied oraz trwale usun t wiadomo wczajc w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorised to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. BRE Bank SA, 00-950 Warszawa, ul. Senatorska 18, tel. +48 (22) 829 00 00, fax +48 (22) 829 00 33, www.brebank.pl, e-mail: i...@brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2013 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 168.555.904 zotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Vary off path
Thanks everyone. The CF command was what I needed. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote: The CF command as issued as a z/OS command only configures it off to that LPAR. If you go to the HMC single object operations, and do it there, it will take it offline to all images. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 9:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Vary off path As I understand it the CF command will vary the physical CHPID offline to all LPARs, not just logically to the z/OS LPAR. I could be wrong about that. If it does do it physically I can wait until the other LPARs have varied their paths offline and then I'll use the CF command. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Mark Pace wrote: Not really, I have 10 control units with 4 CPHIDs, I need to vary off 2 of the CHPID. That's a lot of ranges. What about CF CHP(xx),OFFLINE? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht PS: It is a lng time ago I did that command... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- The postings on this site are my own and don't necessarily represent Mainline's positions or opinions Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- The postings on this site are my own and don’t necessarily represent Mainline’s positions or opinions Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Vary off path
IIRC, it is strongly advised to never use the HMC single object operations to vary a CHP when the related LPARs have operating systems running in them. Alas, I wish that all operating systems were designed/required to gracefully handle the HMC varying resources on and off line. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 9:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Vary off path The CF command as issued as a z/OS command only configures it off to that LPAR. If you go to the HMC single object operations, and do it there, it will take it offline to all images. __ ___ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 9:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Vary off path As I understand it the CF command will vary the physical CHPID offline to all LPARs, not just logically to the z/OS LPAR. I could be wrong about that. If it does do it physically I can wait until the other LPARs have varied their paths offline and then I'll use the CF command. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Mark Pace wrote: Not really, I have 10 control units with 4 CPHIDs, I need to vary off 2 of the CHPID. That's a lot of ranges. What about CF CHP(xx),OFFLINE? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht PS: It is a lng time ago I did that command... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- The postings on this site are my own and don't necessarily represent Mainline's positions or opinions Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Vary off path
As my father-in-law likes to say, when they make me king... 8-) For LPARs with no active operating system, the HMC should be able to simply vary resources logically on and off at will. For LPARs with an active operating system, the HMC should signal the operating system a request to logically vary resources on or off. The signal should include a time out value (e.g., number of seconds) and a time out action (e.g. abort/cancel, continue/force, prompt operator, etc.). The user should be able to select the time out value and time out action. However, the HMC does need to be king, and to have the option to forcibly vary resources on and off after warning the operator what may happen to his first born, etc. [i.e., override the operating system(s)]. Don -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Vary off path Don Williams wrote: IIRC, it is strongly advised to never use the HMC single object operations to vary a CHP when the related LPARs have operating systems running in them. Agreed. One of our operators did something to a Production LPAR instead to a Sandbox LPAR from HMC. Lots of Ouch-ouch-ouch and IPL... Alas, I wish that all operating systems were designed/required to gracefully handle the HMC varying resources on and off line. Including boxed devices? I think z/OS should reply with this (but it is just me): REPLY 00,Reply with G, N, W, Y or N: 1. G - Go ahead, make my day. 2. N - No, do not continue. 3. W - Go ahead, but wait for me, I want to check out that resource XYZ. 4. Y/N - Are your hardware + software fees and licenses fully paid up? ;-D Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
