Re: When did the IPCS follow 64 bit pointer character change?

2023-09-21 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Interesting.

Code page 500 has them reversed

Not sure how I got to that code page .

Changed to 1140 (though I could go back to backups to see what I used to use).


On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 17:31:00 -0700 Tom Brennan 
wrote:

:>Also check the terminal type in the ISPF settings.  I usually recommend 
:>option 3 (3278).  Things like option 5 (3290A) start sending graphic 
:>escape characters for things like ] and can be confusing.  Not sure how 
:>this would relate to ! though.  But maybe it's worth a quick look.
:>
:>On 9/20/2023 3:30 PM, Mark Zelden wrote:
:>> On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 22:45:29 +0300, Binyamin Dissen 
 wrote:
:>> 
:>>> It seems like the IPCS 64 bit follow pointer has become ] (right bracket)
:>>> instead of ! (exclamation point).
:>>>
:>> 
:>> Code page issue on your emulator?   Note the valid codes from help when I 
tried
:>> a bracket.  This is z/OS 2.5.
:>> 
:>> 
:>> ASID(X'013C') ADDRESS(00.) STORAGE --
:>> Command ===>
:>> Valid codes: L, H, %, ?, !
:>> 0020   7000   7000   7000   7000
:>> 0040            00FD7FE0
:>> 0060.:7F. LENGTH(X'20')--All bytes contain X'00'
:>> 0080      1004   00020078   00040016
:>> 00A0   FE01         1FEDE400
:>> 00C0   2800      FBFB   FE7C
:>> 00E0.:FF. LENGTH(X'20')--All bytes contain X'00'
:>> 
:>> 
:>> 
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Re: When did the IPCS follow 64 bit pointer character change?

2023-09-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 17:30:05 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 22:45:29 +0300, Binyamin Dissen 
> wrote:
>
>Code page issue on your emulator?   Note the valid codes from help when I 
>tried 
>a bracket.  This is z/OS 2.5.  
>
It's EBCDIC, y'know.

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Re: When did the IPCS follow 64 bit pointer character change?

2023-09-20 Thread Tom Brennan
Also check the terminal type in the ISPF settings.  I usually recommend 
option 3 (3278).  Things like option 5 (3290A) start sending graphic 
escape characters for things like ] and can be confusing.  Not sure how 
this would relate to ! though.  But maybe it's worth a quick look.


On 9/20/2023 3:30 PM, Mark Zelden wrote:

On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 22:45:29 +0300, Binyamin Dissen 
 wrote:


It seems like the IPCS 64 bit follow pointer has become ] (right bracket)
instead of ! (exclamation point).



Code page issue on your emulator?   Note the valid codes from help when I tried
a bracket.  This is z/OS 2.5.


ASID(X'013C') ADDRESS(00.) STORAGE --
Command ===>
Valid codes: L, H, %, ?, !
0020   7000   7000   7000   7000
0040            00FD7FE0
0060.:7F. LENGTH(X'20')--All bytes contain X'00'
0080      1004   00020078   00040016
00A0   FE01         1FEDE400
00C0   2800      FBFB   FE7C
00E0.:FF. LENGTH(X'20')--All bytes contain X'00'



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Mark
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Re: When did the IPCS follow 64 bit pointer character change?

2023-09-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 22:45:29 +0300, Binyamin Dissen 
 wrote:

>It seems like the IPCS 64 bit follow pointer has become ] (right bracket)
>instead of ! (exclamation point).
>

Code page issue on your emulator?   Note the valid codes from help when I tried 
a bracket.  This is z/OS 2.5.  


ASID(X'013C') ADDRESS(00.) STORAGE --
Command ===> 
Valid codes: L, H, %, ?, !   
0020   7000   7000   7000   7000 
0040            00FD7FE0 
0060.:7F. LENGTH(X'20')--All bytes contain X'00' 
0080      1004   00020078   00040016 
00A0   FE01         1FEDE400 
00C0   2800      FBFB   FE7C 
00E0.:FF. LENGTH(X'20')--All bytes contain X'00' 



Best Regards,

Mark
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Re: When did the IPCS follow 64 bit pointer character change?

2023-09-20 Thread Charles Hardee
I'm on 2.5 and just used ! today.


On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 3:20 PM Binyamin Dissen 
wrote:

> You specify the pointer type in the storage display screen.
>
> % = 24bit
> ? = 31 bit
>
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 15:15:28 -0500 Paul Gilmartin
> <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> :>On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 22:45:29 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
> :>
> :>>It seems like the IPCS 64 bit follow pointer has become ] (right
> bracket)
> :>>instead of ! (exclamation point).
> :>>
> :>How does it distinguish 24- from 31-bit pointers?
> :>Of course that could be resolved with control area maps.
>
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Re: When did the IPCS follow 64 bit pointer character change?

2023-09-20 Thread Binyamin Dissen
You specify the pointer type in the storage display screen.

% = 24bit
? = 31 bit

On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 15:15:28 -0500 Paul Gilmartin
<042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

:>On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 22:45:29 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
:>
:>>It seems like the IPCS 64 bit follow pointer has become ] (right bracket)
:>>instead of ! (exclamation point).
:>>
:>How does it distinguish 24- from 31-bit pointers?
:>Of course that could be resolved with control area maps.

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Re: When did the IPCS follow 64 bit pointer character change?

2023-09-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 22:45:29 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:

>It seems like the IPCS 64 bit follow pointer has become ] (right bracket)
>instead of ! (exclamation point).
>
How does it distinguish 24- from 31-bit pointers?
Of course that could be resolved with control area maps.

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When did the IPCS follow 64 bit pointer character change?

2023-09-20 Thread Binyamin Dissen
It seems like the IPCS 64 bit follow pointer has become ] (right bracket)
instead of ! (exclamation point).

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