Re: Word formattnig
Notepad has a problem with large files. It loads only the first part of a large file. On 2022-03-22 10:53, Bob Bridges wrote: I agree. I get the impression that most Windows users ignore it entirely, and I know I have coworkers who use MS Word for pretty much all their note-taking. I use Notepad for basic notes, and WordPad if I need fonts, italics and bullet points. I doubt my victims notice the difference, since WordPad saves documents in .rtf and most folks open .rtf docs in Word. But whenever I start up a new PC, one of the things I do early is teach it to open .rtf documents in WordPad. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Monday, March 21, 2022 18:35 Notepad is underrated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Word formattnig
On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:06:05 +1100, Robin Vowels wrote: >Notepad has a problem with large files. >It loads only the first part of a large file. > How large? No one should ever need more than 640K. >On 2022-03-22 10:53, Bob Bridges wrote: >> I >> ... But whenever I start up a new PC, one of the >> things I do early is teach it to open .rtf documents in WordPad. > My experience, perhaps outdated: o Notepad doesn't understand UNIX linebreaks. It opens UNIX files appearing like stairs. o WordPad opens UNIX files OK, but it only Saves with DOS linebreaks. o Notepad++ opens either format and Saves by default in the input format. Many Windows editors create files with incomplete last line. Sometimes they append a SUB character. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Word formattnig
On 2022-03-22 11:42, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:06:05 +1100, Robin Vowels wrote: Notepad has a problem with large files. It loads only the first part of a large file. How large? No one should ever need more than 640K. Rubbish. On 2022-03-22 10:53, Bob Bridges wrote: I ... But whenever I start up a new PC, one of the things I do early is teach it to open .rtf documents in WordPad. My experience, perhaps outdated: o Notepad doesn't understand UNIX linebreaks. It opens UNIX files appearing like stairs. o WordPad opens UNIX files OK, but it only Saves with DOS linebreaks. o Notepad++ opens either format and Saves by default in the input format. Many Windows editors create files with incomplete last line. Sometimes they append a SUB character. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Word formattnig
Um. Pretty sure that was a joke, son. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:47 PM Robin Vowels wrote: > On 2022-03-22 11:42, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > > On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:06:05 +1100, Robin Vowels wrote: > > > >> Notepad has a problem with large files. > >> It loads only the first part of a large file. > >> > > How large? No one should ever need more than 640K. > > Rubbish. > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Word formattnig (was: Trouble ...)
On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 18:17:49 +, Bill Johnson wrote: >Cut from word doc and paste to the list. I’ve often seen the list jam stuff >together. I’ve pasted the same thing elsewhere and it works perfectly. > I wonder whether there are ways to cleanse this, such as: o Export from Word or LibreOffice as text, then Copy and Paste from the .txt rather than from the Word GUI. o Paste into BBEdit, vim, or Notepad++; verify; Save; and Copy from a .txt. o Etc. >On Monday, March 21, 2022, 2:02 PM, zMan wrote: > >Hey Bill--not commenting on the actual content at all one way or 't'other, >just curious: how did you enter your longish post above? Something ran a >bunch of the words together, and I'm 100% sure you didn't enter it that >way. I've seen this in a couple of other places and either couldn't ask or >the folks didn't remember what they did. I'd just like to understand it! -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Word formattnig (was: Trouble ...)
Sometimes I have been able to get good results by cut from word, paste to notepad, cut from notepad, past to e-mail. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin [000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2022 3:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Word formattnig (was: Trouble ...) On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 18:17:49 +, Bill Johnson wrote: >Cut from word doc and paste to the list. I’ve often seen the list jam stuff >together. I’ve pasted the same thing elsewhere and it works perfectly. > I wonder whether there are ways to cleanse this, such as: o Export from Word or LibreOffice as text, then Copy and Paste from the .txt rather than from the Word GUI. o Paste into BBEdit, vim, or Notepad++; verify; Save; and Copy from a .txt. o Etc. >On Monday, March 21, 2022, 2:02 PM, zMan wrote: > >Hey Bill--not commenting on the actual content at all one way or 't'other, >just curious: how did you enter your longish post above? Something ran a >bunch of the words together, and I'm 100% sure you didn't enter it that >way. I've seen this in a couple of other places and either couldn't ask or >the folks didn't remember what they did. I'd just like to understand it! -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Word formattnig (was: Trouble ...)
On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 19:47:30 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Sometimes I have been able to get good results by cut from word, paste to >notepad, cut from notepad, past to e-mail. > The incorrect abuttals were sporadic, perhaps consistent with screen width, as if the display driver started each line by cursor addressing and Copy picked up neither nor . Some emulators have Settings to control this behavior.) (I once had such a problem when I captured a TTY data stream, and the driver had courteously omitted the CRLF when a line was exactly 80 characters, trusting display wrap.) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Word formattnig (was: Trouble ...)
Oh, if he pasted into an *emulator* maybe. Seems...unlikely, though? OfficeVision in 2022??? On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 4:21 PM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > The incorrect abuttals were sporadic, perhaps consistent with screen > width, as if the display driver started each line by cursor addressing > and Copy picked up neither nor . Some emulators > have Settings to control this behavior.) > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Word formattnig (was: Trouble ...)
Notepad is underrated. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, March 21, 2022, 3:47 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: Sometimes I have been able to get good results by cut from word, paste to notepad, cut from notepad, past to e-mail. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin [000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2022 3:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Word formattnig (was: Trouble ...) On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 18:17:49 +, Bill Johnson wrote: >Cut from word doc and paste to the list. I’ve often seen the list jam stuff >together. I’ve pasted the same thing elsewhere and it works perfectly. > I wonder whether there are ways to cleanse this, such as: o Export from Word or LibreOffice as text, then Copy and Paste from the .txt rather than from the Word GUI. o Paste into BBEdit, vim, or Notepad++; verify; Save; and Copy from a .txt. o Etc. >On Monday, March 21, 2022, 2:02 PM, zMan wrote: > >Hey Bill--not commenting on the actual content at all one way or 't'other, >just curious: how did you enter your longish post above? Something ran a >bunch of the words together, and I'm 100% sure you didn't enter it that >way. I've seen this in a couple of other places and either couldn't ask or >the folks didn't remember what they did. I'd just like to understand it! -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Word formattnig (was: Trouble ...)
I think this is the problem. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, March 21, 2022, 4:21 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 19:47:30 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Sometimes I have been able to get good results by cut from word, paste to >notepad, cut from notepad, past to e-mail. > The incorrect abuttals were sporadic, perhaps consistent with screen width, as if the display driver started each line by cursor addressing and Copy picked up neither nor . Some emulators have Settings to control this behavior.) (I once had such a problem when I captured a TTY data stream, and the driver had courteously omitted the CRLF when a line was exactly 80 characters, trusting display wrap.) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Word formattnig (was: Trouble ...)
On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 18:21:02 -0400, zMan wrote: >Oh, if he pasted into an *emulator* maybe. Seems...unlikely, though? >OfficeVision in 2022??? > FSVO "emulator". Once I encountered a PostScript file in which text strings contained no blanks. Rather, every word was coded like "x y moveto (word) show". Good for justification; a challenge for "pstotext" or Copy. >On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 4:21 PM Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >> The incorrect abuttals were sporadic, perhaps consistent with screen >> width, as if the display driver started each line by cursor addressing -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Word formattnig (was: Trouble ...)
I agree. I get the impression that most Windows users ignore it entirely, and I know I have coworkers who use MS Word for pretty much all their note-taking. I use Notepad for basic notes, and WordPad if I need fonts, italics and bullet points. I doubt my victims notice the difference, since WordPad saves documents in .rtf and most folks open .rtf docs in Word. But whenever I start up a new PC, one of the things I do early is teach it to open .rtf documents in WordPad. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* More people are flattered into virtue than bullied out of vice. -Anonymous Maybe so, but more still are flattered into vice. -Bob Bridges */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Monday, March 21, 2022 18:35 Notepad is underrated. --- On Monday, March 21, 2022, 3:47 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: Sometimes I have been able to get good results by cut from word, paste to notepad, cut from notepad, past to e-mail. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
