Re: z/OS V2.1 and SETLOAD

2015-06-09 Thread Peter Relson
>So, yes, I think the documentation is not 100% clear having worked with a
>different mechanism.
In a way, you're sort of saying that you didn't read the documentation 
carefully because you had used a different technique in the past and 
perhaps were making some assumptions about the new approach.  The written 
documentation describes what the SETLOAD function does. The alternate 
technique is available via IEASYMU2.

>Is there a TEST function for SETLOAD
No.

But you  might check out the SPPPACK tool (in samplib). This has existed 
for a long time to help you create LOADxx and to view parmlib members with 
symbolic substitution.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: z/OS V2.1 and SETLOAD

2015-06-08 Thread Lizette Koehler
Peter,

Sorry it has taken me some time to get back to this.

Having used the SYMUPDTE I was able to change just the one symbol entry I
needed to.  The SETLOAD is a different process as it updates everything.
Which is why I had some confusion.

So, yes, I think the documentation is not 100% clear having worked with a
different mechanism.

Please let me know if the following is correct, or needs some updating.

\Start Note

SETLOAD.

The SETLOAD command uses the information in LOADxx to identify the IEASYM
member.  When if finds that member, it then will update the entire IEASYM
information in the system with the new information.
Note:  Should an entry be different than what is coded, that is - something
you think is  is changed to AAAB, then that update will take
place.  So it is possible to change an entry without noticing it.

\End Note

So, is there a TEST function for SETLOAD so I can see what it thinks it is
going to change without changing it?
For example.

SETLOAD xx,etc...,TEST

Produces

SETLOAD TEST for Member XX IEASYMxx
Value Current ValueNew Value
Changed
&CLONE.01 01
&MYSYM ABCDEWXYC1
YES




Thanks

Lizette


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> 
> SYMUPDAT was never supported. The IEASYMUP program had been
> provided about
> 10 years ago.
> z/OS 2.1 provides IEASYMU2 instead. If you invoke the z/OS 2.1 IEASYMUP it
> will issue a message telling you so.
> 
> I think/hope it is clearly defined that SETLOAD xx,IEASYM identifies the
> *entire* symbol definition, not a delta.
> The intent is that it represents what you will use upon the next IPL.
> 
> Peter Relson
> z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: z/OS V2.1 and SETLOAD

2015-06-08 Thread Lizette Koehler
Good to know.  Thanks.
Lizette

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> 
> Lizette,
> 
> works as advertised.
> 
> update your parmlib IEASYMxx members to make your symbol change
> permanent.
> 
> run the SETLOAD command.
> 
> similar to creating a new dynamic LINKLIST, your system gets a new SYMBOL
> table based on your updated IEASYMxx members.
> 
> Regards
> Bruce Hewson

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Re: z/OS V2.1 and SETLOAD

2015-06-07 Thread Bruce Hewson
Lizette,

works as advertised.

update your parmlib IEASYMxx members to make your symbol change permanent.

run the SETLOAD command.

similar to creating a new dynamic LINKLIST, your system gets a new SYMBOL table 
based on your updated IEASYMxx members.

Regards
Bruce Hewson

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Re: z/OS V2.1 and SETLOAD

2015-05-30 Thread Peter Relson
SYMUPDAT was never supported. The IEASYMUP program had been provided about 
10 years ago.
z/OS 2.1 provides IEASYMU2 instead. If you invoke the z/OS 2.1 IEASYMUP it 
will issue a message telling you so.

I think/hope it is clearly defined that SETLOAD xx,IEASYM identifies the 
*entire* symbol definition, not a delta.
The intent is that it represents what you will use upon the next IPL.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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z/OS V2.1 and SETLOAD

2015-05-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am looking to use the SYBMOLICRELATE in our environment.  In the past I used 
the SYMUPDATE function to update the system symbols on a given system.

I see now that is replaced with SETLOAD.  

This seems to work differently than the older process - which IBM states in its 
documentation should no longer be used.

The SETLOAD command also allows you to replace static system symbol definitions 
in your current system symbol table without an IPL. The SETLOAD command 
specifies the LOADxx member that contains the PARMLIB or IEASYM statements to 
use for the switch.   


Has anyone started using SETLOAD?  If so, could you clarify some simple 
questions.
1) Do I just create a new member and update just what I need to update?
   In other words, do I need to specify everything and just change the entries 
that need changing? Or can I just create the entries that just need changing?
2) Any gotchas?


I wonder who this example was created for

Example 4:
  
SETLOAD 02,IEASYM,DSN=sys2.relson,VOL=123456  
  
This command tells the system to process the IEASYM statement in member   
LOAD02. Member LOAD02 resides in the data set "sys2.relson" which can be  
located on volume "123456." These updates to the system symbol table will 
occur only on this system.


Thanks for any guidance.

Lizette

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