Re: z/VM "load from dvd or server"
Alan, Thank you for very clear and thorough explanations. That helped me a lot. BTW: FTP access is more tricky: file.INS is loaded by HMC, further load process is beeing performed by SE. So, someone could connect to ftp server from "external" network, pick (confirm) the system to be IPLed and... nothing happens. Frotunaltely I went through the process few years ago, on z990 - then the LRMS icon was available on SE, not on HMC. That was some suggestion about the network. ;-) Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2016-02-01 o 07:22, Alan Altmark pisze: "Load from Removable Media or Server" - installation from DVD or ftp server. There is no place to put load parameters. Quite speciic scenario, but installation process is possibly older than "Integrated 3270 Console", so other consoles for that process should be also an option. The machine has two ways to IPL: 1. The traditional LOAD function -- Choose channel-attached device or a remote SCSI LUN. Uses traditional IPL I/O architecture. 2. Load from Removable Media or Server (LRMS) -- Choose from media-provided pick list. Selected program is loaded into memory and a SYSTEM RESTART is performed. You only use the LOAD FROM REMOVABLE MEDIA OR SERVER (LRMS) function for installation,and that's the only time the integrated 3270 is required. It is z/VM that requires the integrated 3270. As After that, you LOAD the LPAR in the traditional manner. Please note that when using LRMS with an FTP server that the server must be on the HMC-SE LAN segment. That is, the SEs are the machines doing the FTP and the SE must be able to reach the FTP server. Because the HMC will not perform routing, the suggested configuration is for your fave FTP server to have an interface on it with a VPN into the LAN segment used by the HMC & SEs. Alan Altmark IBM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN . --- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może być jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie jesteś adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomość omyłkowo, prosimy niezwłocznie zawiadomić nadawcę wysyłając odpowiedź oraz trwale usunąć tę wiadomość włączając w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorized to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa, www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2016 r. kapitał zakładowy mBanku S.A. (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 168.955.696 złotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/VM "load from dvd or server"
> "Load from Removable Media or Server" - > installation from DVD or ftp server. There is no place to put load > parameters. > Quite speciic scenario, but installation process is possibly older than > "Integrated 3270 Console", so other consoles for that process should be > also an option. The machine has two ways to IPL: 1. The traditional LOAD function -- Choose channel-attached device or a remote SCSI LUN. Uses traditional IPL I/O architecture. 2. Load from Removable Media or Server (LRMS) -- Choose from media-provided pick list. Selected program is loaded into memory and a SYSTEM RESTART is performed. You only use the LOAD FROM REMOVABLE MEDIA OR SERVER (LRMS) function for installation,and that's the only time the integrated 3270 is required. It is z/VM that requires the integrated 3270. As After that, you LOAD the LPAR in the traditional manner. Please note that when using LRMS with an FTP server that the server must be on the HMC-SE LAN segment. That is, the SEs are the machines doing the FTP and the SE must be able to reach the FTP server. Because the HMC will not perform routing, the suggested configuration is for your fave FTP server to have an interface on it with a VPN into the LAN segment used by the HMC & SEs. Alan Altmark IBM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/VM "load from dvd or server"
> Note: HMC-based "Integrated 3270 Console" works fine, however I would > like to use ICC session for some reasons. You can use ICC after the system is installed. Specifying ICC address on LOADPARM will cause SAPL to come up on that device. CONS=addr on the SAPL panel defines where the OPERATOR will be logged on. Alan Altmark IBM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/VM "load from dvd or server"
> z/VM Installation Manual says I should first launch Integrated 3270 > console before Load. > Otherwise I get wait state. > > Q: can I use other console instead, for example ICC console? No, you can't use ICC or other console. You must use the integrated 3270, just as the instructions say. Alan Altmark IBM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [Bulk] Re: z/VM "load from dvd or server"
I've done this for a few VM installs. It's been a couple of years, but here's what I'm pretty sure of. You have to possess (delivered or self-created) an IPLable DVD containing the VM kernel code. You insert the DVD into an actual directly-connected HMC and select 'Load from Media'. The DVD reader lights up. If you've done it right, a VM instance is materializes in memory and communicates with you via Operating System Messages. I do not recall ever firing up the HMC's 3270 emulator. VM churns for (quite) some time and finally gives you the opportunity to write itself out to DASD. The configuration you define during this process includes a console device for future IPLs. After it's all done, you IPL the new system with a Load Profile that points to your newly defined res vol. If everything is OK, subsequent IPLs write to whatever 3270 device you have defined to VM. One caution: if you have downloaded VM from the interweb, the mechanism you use to create the IPLable DVD is crucial. I spent days (!) trying to IPL from a DVD that I created incorrectly. You cannot simply copy all the downloaded files to a DVD. The result looks OK on Windows, even on Unix, but the HMC will tell you that the DVD is empty. You need an appropriate application to do the job. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@att.net > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of R.S. > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 08:44 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: [Bulk] Re: z/VM "load from dvd or server" > > W dniu 2016-01-28 o 17:33, Herring, Bobby pisze: > > I'm not very VM literate but when I IPL our VM/Linux LPAR's, we have to add > CONS= to the load parm part of the IPL screen. > Yes, that's right, but I'm talking about something different. It is not LOAD > (regular IPL), but "Load from Removable Media or Server" - installation from > DVD or ftp server. There is no place to put load parameters. > Quite speciic scenario, but installation process is possibly older than > "Integrated 3270 Console", so other consoles for that process should be also > an option. > > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka > Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/VM "load from dvd or server"
W dniu 2016-01-28 o 17:33, Herring, Bobby pisze: I'm not very VM literate but when I IPL our VM/Linux LPAR's, we have to add CONS= to the load parm part of the IPL screen. Yes, that's right, but I'm talking about something different. It is not LOAD (regular IPL), but "Load from Removable Media or Server" - installation from DVD or ftp server. There is no place to put load parameters. Quite speciic scenario, but installation process is possibly older than "Integrated 3270 Console", so other consoles for that process should be also an option. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wycznie do uytku subowego adresata. Odbiorc moe by jedynie jej adresat z wyczeniem dostpu osób trzecich. Jeeli nie jeste adresatem niniejszej wiadomoci lub pracownikiem upowanionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, e jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne dziaanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i moe by karalne. Jeeli otrzymae t wiadomo omykowo, prosimy niezwocznie zawiadomi nadawc wysyajc odpowied oraz trwale usun t wiadomo wczajc w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorized to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. mBank S.A. z siedzib w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa, www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2016 r. kapita zakadowy mBanku S.A. (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 168.955.696 zotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/VM "load from dvd or server"
I'm not very VM literate but when I IPL our VM/Linux LPAR's, we have to add CONS= to the load parm part of the IPL screen. Bobby Herring Texas Farm Bureau Insurance Waco, TX 76710 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: January 28 9:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] z/VM "load from dvd or server" >>> On 1/28/2016 at 07:18 AM, "R.S." wrote: > I vaguely remember such configuration should work, but it doesn't. I'm > trying to find out what's wrong with my setup? > Does it matter whether ICC session is defined as console or terminal? > (I tried both) Should I somehow specify address of the console? How? There are ways to pass information to z/VM as to what console to use. I'm not familiar enough with that to really help you. But, if there is an actual address associated with the ICC, I believe you can pass that via the loadparm. You should probably ask these questions on the IBMVM listserv. You will undoubtedly get all the help you need there. Mark Post -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN [http://www.txfb-ins.com/TFBICImages/email-signature-image.jpg] WWW.TXFB-INS.COM<http://www.txfb-ins.com> Texas Farm Bureau Insurance received the highest numerical score among auto insurance providers in Texas in the proprietary J.D. Power 2012-2015 U.S. Auto Insurance Studies SM . 2015 study based on 46,256 total responses measuring 8 providers in Texas and measures opinions of consumers with their auto insurance provider. Proprietary study results are based on experiences and perceptions of consumers surveyed March - April 2015. Your experiences may vary. Visit jdpower.com. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The foregoing message (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communication Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. sections 2510-2521, and is CONFIDENTIAL. If you believe that it has been sent to you in error, do not read it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you have received the message in error, then delete it. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/VM "load from dvd or server"
>>> On 1/28/2016 at 07:18 AM, "R.S." wrote: > I vaguely remember such configuration should work, but it doesn't. I'm > trying to find out what's wrong with my setup? > Does it matter whether ICC session is defined as console or terminal? (I > tried both) > Should I somehow specify address of the console? How? There are ways to pass information to z/VM as to what console to use. I'm not familiar enough with that to really help you. But, if there is an actual address associated with the ICC, I believe you can pass that via the loadparm. You should probably ask these questions on the IBMVM listserv. You will undoubtedly get all the help you need there. Mark Post -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/VM "load from dvd or server"
W dniu 2016-01-28 o 03:35, Mark Post pisze: On 1/27/2016 at 05:30 PM, "R.S." wrote: z/VM Installation Manual says I should first launch Integrated 3270 console before Load. Otherwise I get wait state. Q: can I use other console instead, for example ICC console? As long as it looks like a 3270-type console, you should be able to get it to work. That's what I'm tryding to do. I start ICC session to relevant LPAR (MIFID and CSS match, device is available to the LPAR) Then I perform "Load from..." During last phase of load a bell sound is issued from console, but nothing changes on the display. Then I get Disabled Wait 1010 (no console) I vaguely remember such configuration should work, but it doesn't. I'm trying to find out what's wrong with my setup? Does it matter whether ICC session is defined as console or terminal? (I tried both) Should I somehow specify address of the console? How? Note: HMC-based "Integrated 3270 Console" works fine, however I would like to use ICC session for some reasons. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland --- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wycznie do uytku subowego adresata. Odbiorc moe by jedynie jej adresat z wyczeniem dostpu osób trzecich. Jeeli nie jeste adresatem niniejszej wiadomoci lub pracownikiem upowanionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, e jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne dziaanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i moe by karalne. Jeeli otrzymae t wiadomo omykowo, prosimy niezwocznie zawiadomi nadawc wysyajc odpowied oraz trwale usun t wiadomo wczajc w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorized to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. mBank S.A. z siedzib w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa, www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2016 r. kapita zakadowy mBanku S.A. (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 168.955.696 zotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/VM "load from dvd or server"
It's been a few years... but I think you have plugged in a z/VM install disc in the side of the Service Unit on the mainframe box (aka the Thinkpad) and booted it in an LPAR? Just go to the 'Integrated 3270 console', or just 'Operating System Messages' on the HMC for that LPAR and follow the prompts. It should be obvious from there. I've installed z/VM from a remote HMC connection, so it doesn't need an ICC console. All I needed was someone was to physically push the optical disc into the side on the mainframe. You don't need some-one with Microsoft Certification for that, thank goodness, otherwise you'd be re-educating someone on how to insert an DVD every couple of years, at a ludicrous cost. Ant. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2016 12:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM "load from dvd or server" >>> On 1/27/2016 at 05:30 PM, "R.S." wrote: > z/VM Installation Manual says I should first launch Integrated 3270 > console before Load. > Otherwise I get wait state. > > Q: can I use other console instead, for example ICC console? As long as it looks like a 3270-type console, you should be able to get it to work. Mark Post -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/VM "load from dvd or server"
>>> On 1/27/2016 at 05:30 PM, "R.S." wrote: > z/VM Installation Manual says I should first launch Integrated 3270 > console before Load. > Otherwise I get wait state. > > Q: can I use other console instead, for example ICC console? As long as it looks like a 3270-type console, you should be able to get it to work. Mark Post -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
z/VM "load from dvd or server"
z/VM Installation Manual says I should first launch Integrated 3270 console before Load. Otherwise I get wait state. Q: can I use other console instead, for example ICC console? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może być jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie jesteś adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomość omyłkowo, prosimy niezwłocznie zawiadomić nadawcę wysyłając odpowiedź oraz trwale usunąć tę wiadomość włączając w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorized to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa, www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2016 r. kapitał zakładowy mBanku S.A. (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 168.955.696 złotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN