Fw: z/LINUX Infrastructure Meeting - Wednesday, 08/13/08 @ 11:00 a.m. in NJ 13-09 - #6003

2008-08-12 Thread Bill Munson
We will hold the regularly scheduled z/LINUX Infrastructure Meeting - 
tomorrow - same time - same place
 
Bill Munson
Brown Brothers Harriman
z/VM System Programmer
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Bill,

Attached is the meeting notes for next week's z/LINUX Infrastructure 
Meeting (saved in the s:\opsysspt\zVM and Linux\Linux Infrastructure 
Meeting directory). As per our conversation in today's staff meeting, 
please send an e-mail to the 'LINUX' address next Tuesday, 08/12/08, with 
this attachment and facilitate the meeting.

Thanks.
Ashley



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Re: Fw: z/LINUX Infrastructure Meeting - Wednesday, 08/13/08 @ 11:00 a.m. in NJ 13-09 - #6003

2008-08-12 Thread Bill Munson
oops - sorry
well there is something to laugh about

munson


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Re: Fw: z/LINUX Infrastructure Meeting

2008-08-12 Thread Rich Smrcina

I can't make it, I'm at SHARE this week...  :)

Bill Munson wrote:


oops - sorry
well there is something to laugh about

munson



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Who is using DTIPDDSO in z/VM530 ?

2008-08-12 Thread Alain Benveniste
Hi,

I'm looking for someone who uses DTIPDDSO (VSCS SUPPRESS PSW display when

logging).

I have a version written in 95 that I used to compile. But now it looks l
ike
it doesn't work anymore with z/VM530...


If someone could send me his source, that would be great.

If you want to know what I'm talking about go there in the VM part :
www.nrsinc.com/tnd420/tnd0220.pdf 

alain Benveniste


Re: Safety Reminder: If you are planning disk upgrades, make sure you switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in /etc/fstab BEFORE you switch

2008-08-12 Thread Rick Troth
I second that!

-- R;   


Re: Safety Reminder: If you are planning disk upgrades, make sure you switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in /etc/fstab BEFORE you switch

2008-08-12 Thread Stephen Frazier

Two questions that anyone who is new enough to need your reminder will ask are:

What default do you suggest?
When changing it, how should it be changed?

The old timers here will know the answers.

David Boyes wrote:
A safety reminder: If you’re planning to replace disk subsystems, make 
sure your Linux guests (particularly any SLES 10 or above) guests do NOT 
use by-ID paths in /etc/fstab. Fix this BEFORE the new disk goes in, 
both RH and SuSE (Debian, too), or your guests will not be able to find 
their filesystems (and thus won’t boot or run).


 

This really should be in IBM and other DASD vendors planning information 
for new installs, and I’d demand a fix from your Linux vendors. By-ID is 
a stupid default for this architecture (for any architecture, I’d 
argue…) and needs a fix ASAP.


 

IBM, EMC, Hitachi: how do we get this added to your planning guides? RH, 
Novell, how about it?


 


-- db

 



--
Stephen Frazier
Information Technology Unit
Oklahoma Department of Corrections
3400 Martin Luther King
Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298
Tel.: (405) 425-2549
Fax: (405) 425-2554
Pager: (405) 690-1828
email:  stevef%doc.state.ok.us


OT: Date bug kills VMware systems | The Register

2008-08-12 Thread McKown, John
Gee, very interesting bug in VMWare.

quote
Irate VMware customers were left unable to power up their virtual
servers this morning because of a bug that killed their systems when the
clock clicked round to 12 August.

The bug was sent out to customers in ESX 3.5 update 2, VMware's latest
hypervisor, which went out on 27 July. The version could have been
downloaded and installed by thousands of customers since then.
/quote

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/12/vmware_12_august_esx_cockup/


Re: Safety Reminder: If you are planning disk upgrades, make sure you switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in /etc/fstab BEFORE you switch

2008-08-12 Thread Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E]
I'm new enough to ask. What?

Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474



-Original Message-
From: Stephen Frazier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:47 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Safety Reminder: If you are planning disk upgrades, make
sure you switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in /etc/fstab BEFORE
you switch

Two questions that anyone who is new enough to need your reminder will
ask are:

What default do you suggest?
When changing it, how should it be changed?

The old timers here will know the answers.

David Boyes wrote:
 A safety reminder: If you're planning to replace disk subsystems, make

 sure your Linux guests (particularly any SLES 10 or above) guests do
NOT 
 use by-ID paths in /etc/fstab. Fix this BEFORE the new disk goes in, 
 both RH and SuSE (Debian, too), or your guests will not be able to
find 
 their filesystems (and thus won't boot or run).
 
  
 
 This really should be in IBM and other DASD vendors planning
information 
 for new installs, and I'd demand a fix from your Linux vendors. By-ID
is 
 a stupid default for this architecture (for any architecture, I'd 
 argue...) and needs a fix ASAP.
 
  
 
 IBM, EMC, Hitachi: how do we get this added to your planning guides?
RH, 
 Novell, how about it?
 
  
 
 -- db
 
  
 

-- 
Stephen Frazier
Information Technology Unit
Oklahoma Department of Corrections
3400 Martin Luther King
Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298
Tel.: (405) 425-2549
Fax: (405) 425-2554
Pager: (405) 690-1828
email:  stevef%doc.state.ok.us


Re: Safety Reminder: If you are planning disk upgrades, make sure you switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in /etc/fstab BEFORE you switch

2008-08-12 Thread Quay, Jonathan (IHG)
Also important if you use a data replication warm site disaster
recovery process like EMC's SRDF and whatever the IBM equivalent is.

 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David Boyes
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:22 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Safety Reminder: If you are planning disk upgrades, make sure
you switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in /etc/fstab BEFORE you
switch

 

A safety reminder: If you're planning to replace disk subsystems, make
sure your Linux guests (particularly any SLES 10 or above) guests do NOT
use by-ID paths in /etc/fstab. Fix this BEFORE the new disk goes in,
both RH and SuSE (Debian, too), or your guests will not be able to find
their filesystems (and thus won't boot or run).

 

This really should be in IBM and other DASD vendors planning information
for new installs, and I'd demand a fix from your Linux vendors. By-ID is
a stupid default for this architecture (for any architecture, I'd
argue...) and needs a fix ASAP. 

 

IBM, EMC, Hitachi: how do we get this added to your planning guides? RH,
Novell, how about it? 

 

-- db

 



Re: Safety Reminder: If you are planning disk upgrades, make sure you switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in /etc/fstab BEFORE you switch

2008-08-12 Thread Adam Thornton

On Aug 12, 2008, at 11:47 AM, Stephen Frazier wrote:

Two questions that anyone who is new enough to need your reminder  
will ask are:


What default do you suggest?
When changing it, how should it be changed?

The old timers here will know the answers.


*I* suggest using the /dev/disk/by-path filename.  (I think RH is /dev/ 
dasd/by-path).


Change it with your favorite text editor in /etc/fstab *and* in /etc/ 
zipl.conf, and don't forget to rerun zipl!


Adam


Re: Safety Reminder: If you are planning disk upgrades, make sure you switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in /etc/fstab BEFORE you switch

2008-08-12 Thread Rick Giz
 .and whatever the IBM equivalent is. 

 

PPRC (Peer to Peer Remote Copy).

 

Regards,

Rick Giz

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

770-781-3206

  _  

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Quay, Jonathan (IHG)
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:58 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Safety Reminder: If you are planning disk upgrades, make sure
you switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in /etc/fstab BEFORE you switch

 

Also important if you use a data replication warm site disaster recovery
process like EMC's SRDF and whatever the IBM equivalent is.

 

  _  

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David Boyes
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:22 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Safety Reminder: If you are planning disk upgrades, make sure you
switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in /etc/fstab BEFORE you switch

 

A safety reminder: If you're planning to replace disk subsystems, make sure
your Linux guests (particularly any SLES 10 or above) guests do NOT use
by-ID paths in /etc/fstab. Fix this BEFORE the new disk goes in, both RH and
SuSE (Debian, too), or your guests will not be able to find their
filesystems (and thus won't boot or run).

 

This really should be in IBM and other DASD vendors planning information for
new installs, and I'd demand a fix from your Linux vendors. By-ID is a
stupid default for this architecture (for any architecture, I'd argue.) and
needs a fix ASAP. 

 

IBM, EMC, Hitachi: how do we get this added to your planning guides? RH,
Novell, how about it? 

 

-- db

 



Re: Date bug kills VMware systems | The Register

2008-08-12 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello!
I agree!
Now I wonder what the folks at VMWare will say to explain why their virtual
servers are on a vacation of some sort.

--
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The Force will be with you always. Obi-Wan Kenobi
  


 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of McKown, John
 Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:50 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: OT: Date bug kills VMware systems | The Register
 
 Gee, very interesting bug in VMWare.
 
 quote
 Irate VMware customers were left unable to power up their virtual
 servers this morning because of a bug that killed their systems when the
 clock clicked round to 12 August.
 
 The bug was sent out to customers in ESX 3.5 update 2, VMware's latest
 hypervisor, which went out on 27 July. The version could have been
 downloaded and installed by thousands of customers since then.
 /quote
 
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/12/vmware_12_august_esx_cockup/


Re: Safety Reminder: If you are planning disk upgrades, make sure you switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in /etc/fstab BEFORE you switch

2008-08-12 Thread Adam Thornton

On Aug 12, 2008, at 12:25 PM, Thomas Kern wrote:


I have been using /dev/dasd?1 where ? goes from a to zz.

Is by-path the /dev/disk/0.0.0591 syntax?


Yeah, although it's more like /dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.0591-part1  
these days.


Ada,


Re: Safety Reminder: If you are planning disk upgrades, make sure you switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in /etc/fstab BEFORE you switch

2008-08-12 Thread Marcy Cortes
/dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.8002-part1
 
The /dev/dasd?1 will still work.  Just annoyingly can move if you add
disks.
In fact, if you are upgrading from sles9 to sles10 you're going to want
to have it that anyway since SLES9 uses /dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.8006p1
and the upgrade process won't find that (boo hiss).




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-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Thomas Kern
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:26 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Safety Reminder: If you are planning disk upgrades,
make sure you switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in /etc/fstab
BEFORE you switch

I have been using /dev/dasd?1 where ? goes from a to zz. 

Is by-path the /dev/disk/0.0.0591 syntax?

/Tom Kern


On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:11:43 -0500, Adam Thornton
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
et
wrote:

*I* suggest using the /dev/disk/by-path filename.  (I think RH is /dev/

dasd/by-path).

Change it with your favorite text editor in /etc/fstab *and* in /etc/ 
zipl.conf, and don't forget to rerun zipl!

Adam
=
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Re: Safety Reminder: If you are planning disk upgrades, make sure you switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in /etc/fstab BEFORE you switch

2008-08-12 Thread Stephen Frazier

And thank you Bobby for admitting that you didn't understand David's reminder.
You probably helped lots of other newbies that were wondering what this was about but were afraid to 
ask.


Bauer, Bobby (NIH/CIT) [E] wrote:
Thanks David, something new to look into. 


Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474



I'm new enough to ask. What?

Bobby Bauer
Center for Information Technology
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD 20892-5628
301-594-7474



-Original Message-
From: Stephen Frazier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:47 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Safety Reminder: If you are planning disk upgrades, make
sure you switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in /etc/fstab BEFORE
you switch

Two questions that anyone who is new enough to need your reminder will
ask are:

What default do you suggest?
When changing it, how should it be changed?

The old timers here will know the answers.


--
Stephen Frazier
Information Technology Unit
Oklahoma Department of Corrections
3400 Martin Luther King
Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298
Tel.: (405) 425-2549
Fax: (405) 425-2554
Pager: (405) 690-1828
email:  stevef%doc.state.ok.us


OT: Alan has a pony.

2008-08-12 Thread David Boyes
I would just like to point out that Alan Altmark's long-standing wish
for a pony has been satisfied. A brown and white pony has been
delivered, and he has no need for further ponies. 8-)

 

-- db

 



Re: OT: Alan has a pony.

2008-08-12 Thread Christy Brogan
Wow, that must be one HECK of a SHARE!!  ;-

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I would just like to point out that Alan Altmark’s long-standing wish for a
pony has been satisfied. A brown and white pony has been delivered, and he
has no need for further ponies. 8-)

-- db


Re: OT: Alan has a pony.

2008-08-12 Thread Adam Thornton


On Aug 12, 2008, at 4:31 PM, David Boyes wrote:

I would just like to point out that Alan Altmark’s long-standing  
wish for a pony has been satisfied. A brown and white pony has been  
delivered, and he has no need for further ponies. 8-)



Uh oh.

See, it wasn't Alan who wanted the pony.

It was Chucky.

That poor, poor pony.

Adam

Re: TCPIP PCOMM 658 Code

2008-08-12 Thread Karl J Severson
I thought I'd do a follow up on this problem for anyone who might be interested and who may have a similar setupto the onewe do. I was fairly confident that VM:Operator wasn't to blame for the problem but contactedCA anyway since the only error codes we ever got were from VM:Operator. AfterCA andIdiscounted him as the culprit I decided to focus on TCPIP as I always thought he was to blame. After reading through both the Planning and Configuration manual and the User's Guide I zeroed in on the POOLSIZE part of the PROFILE TCPIP. After issuing the NETSTAT POOLSIZE command I noticed that the system was trying to useSmallDataBufferwhich we had set to zero in the #Alloc column. I say the system was trying to use it only because there was a "1" in the Permit Size column. This was without anyone being logged on via TELNET. At any rate, setting the #Alloc to 10 on my test system seems to have fixed the problem. Logging on multiple users via TELNET and issuing NETSTAT POOLSIZE shows that the numbers in all the other columns do indeed change depending on the number of remote logons I have. For any production machines the #Alloc will be set to 100 as they have many more users. This was never a problem on our 43XX or 9221 systems nor our PC Server based P/390s but for some reason, the Integrated Servers we have are a rather sensitive lot. Either that or PCOMM is more sensitive than Communications Manager/2 but my money is still on TCPIP. One day I hope to be able to work on more modernsystems but for now I'm stuck trying to support unsupported hardware and software.Karl SeversonRaytheon CompanyEl Segundo, California