How to manage multiple LPARs without RSCS

2010-06-24 Thread Rick Barlow
Does anyone have a method they use to manage multiple z/VM LPARs from a
single point without the benefit of RSCS for NJE connections?  We have
always had RSCS and used PROP or VM:Operator with a single logical operator
being able to interact  with groups or all of the LPARs.  There is some
question whether will want to keep licensing RSCS.

Rick


Re: How to manage multiple LPARs without RSCS

2010-06-24 Thread Imler, Steven J
If you have VM:Operator, version 3.0 added the RVS feature that supports
this using TCPIP.

 

JR (Steven) Imler
CA 
Sr Sustaining Engineer
Tel:  +1-703-708-3479
steven.im...@ca.com
mailto:steven.im...@ca.com  http://www.ca.com/ 

 

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Rick Barlow
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 08:18 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: How to manage multiple LPARs without RSCS

 

Does anyone have a method they use to manage multiple z/VM LPARs from a
single point without the benefit of RSCS for NJE connections?  We have
always had RSCS and used PROP or VM:Operator with a single logical
operator being able to interact  with groups or all of the LPARs.  There
is some question whether will want to keep licensing RSCS.

Rick



Re: CICS and z/VM

2010-06-24 Thread Howard Rifkind
Thanks all for the information.

I've been installing CICS and writing Assembler code for CICS transactions 
since the '70's on DOS OS's and other MVS releases, but I had never heard of a 
CICS to run on VM.

Hearst Corp. had a number of 360 machines of various sizes and started to use 
CICS/DOS in the '70's and I loved it.

To bad I missed that boat, I would have loved to have a crack at CICS/VM.

Live and learn, I would like to be around 20,15, 50 years from now to see where 
z/VM and CICS is at.

BTW, loved macro level CICS programming.


--- On Wed, 6/23/10, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote:

From: Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com
Subject: Re: CICS and z/VM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 10:50 PM

Too cool for real life apparently.
Not archived... We shoud say recycled, reclaimed, reused for stuff like complex 
networking and security work! 

Marcy

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:51 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] CICS and z/VM

On Wednesday, 06/23/2010 at 07:03 EDT, Ron Schmiedge 
ron.schmie...@gmail.com wrote:
 There was. Announced in 1985 and EOS was Dec 31 1993. Program Product 
 5684-011. 

Wow.  Good ol' CICS/VM.  I did some testing of CICS/VM R3, ca. 1989, which 
never saw the light of day.  It was a pretty cool product (hey, it used 
SFS!) and at that time I still remembered how to write CICS applications. 
Those brain cells have since been archived.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott



  

Re: How to manage multiple LPARs without RSCS

2010-06-24 Thread Mark Wheeler

Rick,

 

If you're moving files with SENDFILE, have you implemented UFTD? You can then 
issue

SENDFILE MY FILE A TO user...@vm1.myco.com (UFTSYNC NETDATA

 

I can't say this will help with VM:Operator, but it looks like JR pointed out a 
possible solution in another reply.

 

Mark Wheeler

UnitedHealth Group  
 


Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 08:18:06 -0400
From: rrhbar...@gmail.com
Subject: How to manage multiple LPARs without RSCS
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

Does anyone have a method they use to manage multiple z/VM LPARs from a single 
point without the benefit of RSCS for NJE connections?  We have always had RSCS 
and used PROP or VM:Operator with a single logical operator being able to 
interact  with groups or all of the LPARs.  There is some question whether will 
want to keep licensing RSCS.

Rick
  
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RSCS in the base VM

2010-06-24 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
We are running z/VM Version 4.3.  What functionality of RSCS was
included in the base at that point?  Where can I go to find this?

That would have been RSCS 3.2.  You can find more details of what is
available as part of the 'base', i.e. does not require a license,
at url:

www.vm.ibm.com/related/rscs


Best Regards,
Les Geer
IBM z/VM and Linux Development


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2010-06-24 Thread Roger Lunsford
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Re: CICS and z/VM

2010-06-24 Thread Ward, Mike S
I ran Transaction Server on OS/2

 

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Marcy Cortes
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:09 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: CICS and z/VM

 

There was a CICS/VM in 1987.  You can google cics/vm and learn a
little bit more.

http://www-01.ibm.com/software/htp/cics/35/80s/

 

IBM killed it before it could gain acceptance.

Rumor was that it ran better than it did on MVS :)

 

 

 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Scott Rohling
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:56 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] CICS and z/VM

I would ask him to explain 'with z/OS being present' - and then ask him
to explain 'native'   ;-)   Maybe those words don't mean what he thinks
they do or what you think they do?   The 'presence' of z/OS seems
especially ambiguous in his statement..  what the heck does that mean?
Lurking nearby?  ;)

z/VM can run a z/OS guest, which can run CICS..   there's no 'z/VM CICS'
product.

Scott Rohling

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Howard Rifkind vmes...@yahoo.com
wrote:

A friend of mine stated that CICS can run native under z/VM with z/OS
being present.

 

I find this hard to believe and have never heard of this being done in
any size, shape or form.

 

I think he is blowing wind.

 

Can anyone comment on this.  If there is any truth in this please advise
where I can find some documentation on this.

 

Thanks

 

 

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