Re: Chunk (RAW Block) access to DS8000 storage

2009-07-31 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of David Boyes
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:29 PM
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> Subject: Re: Chunk (RAW Block) access to DS8000 storage
> 
> > 
> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 16:06, Gary M. 
> Dennis wrote:
> >> Does anyone know of a way to access very large chunks of 
> DS8000 storage
> >> without minidisk definitions?
> >> 
> >> We are looking for a way to allocate substantial 
> increments of storage
> >> (several terabytes at a time) with the least  
> administrative overhead.
> 
> Convince IBM to document the QDIO interface to the FCP 
> adapters. Short of
> that, the only way is to deconstruct the Linux QDIO support, 
> which (since
> it's GPLv2) will taint your product and force you to ship source code.
> 
> -- db

Well, maybe and maybe not. Have one person look at the GPL'ed code and document 
the interface. Have a separate person (or team) develop a "clean room" 
implementation. GPL does not stop you from doing that. It only stops you from 
copying the actual code itself. Of course, IANAL, so take my position for what 
it is worth - not much.

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Re: Chunk (RAW Block) access to DS8000 storage

2009-07-31 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Gary M.
Dennis wrote:

> Does anyone know of a way to access very large chunks of DS8000 storage
> without minidisk definitions?
>
> We are looking for a way to allocate substantial increments of storage
> (several terabytes at a time) with the least  administrative overhead.

Both "very large" and "the least" may cause this not to fit your
needs...  but if you can do XC...

How about defining one or a few huge EDEVICE and map each owners'
portion into a dataspace with mapmdisk ?

Rob


Re: Chunk (RAW Block) access to DS8000 storage

2009-07-30 Thread David Boyes
> 
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 16:06, Gary M. Dennis wrote:
>> Does anyone know of a way to access very large chunks of DS8000 storage
>> without minidisk definitions?
>> 
>> We are looking for a way to allocate substantial increments of storage
>> (several terabytes at a time) with the least  administrative overhead.

Convince IBM to document the QDIO interface to the FCP adapters. Short of
that, the only way is to deconstruct the Linux QDIO support, which (since
it's GPLv2) will taint your product and force you to ship source code.

-- db


Re: Chunk (RAW Block) access to DS8000 storage

2009-07-30 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 07/30/2009 at 04:06 EDT, "Gary M. Dennis" 
 wrote:
> Does anyone know of a way to access very large chunks of DS8000 storage 
without 
> minidisk definitions?  
> 
> We are looking for a way to allocate substantial increments of storage 
(several 
> terabytes at a time) with the least  administrative overhead.

Gary, you can ATTACH (CP command) or DEDICATE (directory statement) an 
entire DS8000 volume to a guest.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: Chunk (RAW Block) access to DS8000 storage

2009-07-30 Thread Richard Troth
SAN?

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On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 16:06, Gary M. Dennis wrote:
> Does anyone know of a way to access very large chunks of DS8000 storage
> without minidisk definitions?
>
> We are looking for a way to allocate substantial increments of storage
> (several terabytes at a time) with the least  administrative overhead.
>
> --.  .-  .-.  -.--
>
> Gary Dennis
> Mantissa Corporation
>


Chunk (RAW Block) access to DS8000 storage

2009-07-30 Thread Gary M. Dennis
Does anyone know of a way to access very large chunks of DS8000 storage
without minidisk definitions?

We are looking for a way to allocate substantial increments of storage
(several terabytes at a time) with the least  administrative overhead.

--.  .-  .-.  -.--

Gary Dennis
Mantissa Corporation