Re: ESPF?

2011-08-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 08/09/2011 at 09:32 EDT, Lee Stewart 
 wrote:
> It would be a great easy way to help z/OS guys who are having to learn
> VM for Linux...

How does changing editors helps someone learn VM?  If someone is going to 
manage VM, they are going to need to be able to do a lot of things. 
Adding, changing, and deleting lines in a configuration file is going to 
be the least of their worries.

I honestly don't think that making ISPF look like XEDIT would help a VM 
sysprog learn z/OS more quickly, either.  MVSers can learn the basics of 
XEDIT very quickly, just as I did with ISPF.  The several ISPF-like XEDIT 
profiles running around out there are sufficient IMO.

In any case, while I can't find ESPF, I did find XEDIT macros that someone 
wrote to simulate ESPF.  Those macros are not in the VM Download Library 
and have dependencies on other IBMer-written goodies.

Alan Altmark

Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training 
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ESPF?

2011-08-09 Thread Lee Stewart
Hey anyone remember ESPF?  Not sure if it was ever anywhere else, but it 
was on IBM tools disks back when...  It was like the ISPF editor, but 
just a single module (I seem to remember) not the plump ISPF/PDF..


Is it still around anywhere?   Could it make it to the download page?

It would be a great easy way to help z/OS guys who are having to learn 
VM for Linux...


Thanks,
Lee
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