ISPF Post-z/VM Installation

2009-05-05 Thread Dave Keeton
I need to install ISPF on my z/VM 5.4 system. I have recently installed
RACF and need to add panel support. I have the electronic media from the
Shop zSeries site as well as the DVD for the z/VM 5.4 SDO.

How do I go about installing ISPF after the fact? Can I do it via FTP?
Can that part be installed as a Product Envelope and if so, how do I
go about getting it?

Thanks,
Dave




Re: ISPF Post-z/VM Installation

2009-05-05 Thread C. Lawrence Perkins
ISPF for VM is one of those semi-VMSES/E products.  It's so old it 
predates the rigourous methodology of VMSES/E and had its own install 
method based on an install tool EXEC from earlier versions of VM.

The z/VM 5.4 SDO Directory

http://www.vm.ibm.com/sdo/sdozv54.pdf

has a section on installing ISPF and describes the semi-VMSES/E 
procedure, Page 134.

You'll also need the ISPF Program Directory, you can find it here:
http://publibfi.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/i1114480.pdf

This will help when you go to build the ISPF DCSS.

And, I presume you have the ISPF product tape. 


Re: ISPF Post-z/VM Installation

2009-05-05 Thread Schuh, Richard
Isn't it so old that the documentation is in Sanskrit?

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of C. Lawrence Perkins
 Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:17 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: ISPF Post-z/VM Installation
 
 ISPF for VM is one of those semi-VMSES/E products.  It's so 
 old it predates the rigourous methodology of VMSES/E and had 
 its own install method based on an install tool EXEC from 
 earlier versions of VM.
 
 The z/VM 5.4 SDO Directory
 
 http://www.vm.ibm.com/sdo/sdozv54.pdf
 
 has a section on installing ISPF and describes the semi-VMSES/E 
 procedure, Page 134.
 
 You'll also need the ISPF Program Directory, you can find it here:
 http://publibfi.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/i1114480.pdf
 
 This will help when you go to build the ISPF DCSS.
 
 And, I presume you have the ISPF product tape. 
 

Re: ISPF Post-z/VM Installation

2009-05-05 Thread KEETON Dave * SDC
What I have is the z/VM 5.4 SDO media. If I need an additional ISPF
product tape, I will need to order it.

Thanks,
Dave 

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of C. Lawrence Perkins
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:17 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: ISPF Post-z/VM Installation

ISPF for VM is one of those semi-VMSES/E products.  It's so old it
predates the rigourous methodology of VMSES/E and had its own install
method based on an install tool EXEC from earlier versions of VM.

The z/VM 5.4 SDO Directory

http://www.vm.ibm.com/sdo/sdozv54.pdf

has a section on installing ISPF and describes the semi-VMSES/E 
procedure, Page 134.

You'll also need the ISPF Program Directory, you can find it here:
http://publibfi.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/i1114480.pdf

This will help when you go to build the ISPF DCSS.

And, I presume you have the ISPF product tape. 


Re: ISPF Post-z/VM Installation

2009-05-05 Thread C. Lawrence Perkins
Yes, if ISPF wasn't on your SDO tapes, you'll need to order it.  You can 

get it on ShopZSeries and probably via internet delivery as a Program 
Product envelope.  Or a real tape, but not a reel tape.


On Tue, 5 May 2009 16:21:05 -0700, KEETON Dave * SDC 
dave.kee...@state.or.us wrote:

What I have is the z/VM 5.4 SDO media. If I need an additional ISPF
product tape, I will need to order it.

Thanks,
Dave 

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of C. Lawrence Perkins
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:17 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: ISPF Post-z/VM Installation

ISPF for VM is one of those semi-VMSES/E products.  It's so old it
predates the rigourous methodology of VMSES/E and had its own install
method based on an install tool EXEC from earlier versions of VM.

The z/VM 5.4 SDO Directory

http://www.vm.ibm.com/sdo/sdozv54.pdf

has a section on installing ISPF and describes the semi-VMSES/E 
procedure, Page 134.

You'll also need the ISPF Program Directory, you can find it here:
http://publibfi.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/i1114480.pdf

This will help when you go to build the ISPF DCSS.

And, I presume you have the ISPF product tape. 


Re: ISPF Post-z/VM Installation

2009-05-05 Thread C. Lawrence Perkins
And comes on two stone tablets, delivered by the ghost of Charlton Heston
.


On Tue, 5 May 2009 16:19:24 -0700, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote
:

Isn't it so old that the documentation is in Sanskrit?

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of C. Lawrence Perkins
 Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:17 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: ISPF Post-z/VM Installation
 
 ISPF for VM is one of those semi-VMSES/E products.  It's so 
 old it predates the rigourous methodology of VMSES/E and had 
 its own install method based on an install tool EXEC from 
 earlier versions of VM.
 
 The z/VM 5.4 SDO Directory
 
 http://www.vm.ibm.com/sdo/sdozv54.pdf
 
 has a section on installing ISPF and describes the semi-VMSES/E 
 procedure, Page 134.
 
 You'll also need the ISPF Program Directory, you can find it here:
 http://publibfi.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/i1114480.pdf
 
 This will help when you go to build the ISPF DCSS.
 
 And, I presume you have the ISPF product tape. 
 
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Re: ISPF Post-z/VM Installation

2009-05-05 Thread KEETON Dave * SDC
I don't have tapes - I have a DVD and I obtained the electronic version
of the SDO from IBM this morning. I was hoping to get the Product
Envelope, but I didn't see where I could get just that component.

Dave 

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of C. Lawrence Perkins
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:35 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: ISPF Post-z/VM Installation

Yes, if ISPF wasn't on your SDO tapes, you'll need to order it.  You can


get it on ShopZSeries and probably via internet delivery as a Program
Product envelope.  Or a real tape, but not a reel tape.


On Tue, 5 May 2009 16:21:05 -0700, KEETON Dave * SDC 
dave.kee...@state.or.us wrote:

What I have is the z/VM 5.4 SDO media. If I need an additional ISPF
product tape, I will need to order it.

Thanks,
Dave 

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of C. Lawrence Perkins
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:17 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: ISPF Post-z/VM Installation

ISPF for VM is one of those semi-VMSES/E products.  It's so old it
predates the rigourous methodology of VMSES/E and had its own install
method based on an install tool EXEC from earlier versions of VM.

The z/VM 5.4 SDO Directory

http://www.vm.ibm.com/sdo/sdozv54.pdf

has a section on installing ISPF and describes the semi-VMSES/E 
procedure, Page 134.

You'll also need the ISPF Program Directory, you can find it here:
http://publibfi.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/i1114480.pdf

This will help when you go to build the ISPF DCSS.

And, I presume you have the ISPF product tape. 


Re: ISPF Post-z/VM Installation

2009-05-05 Thread Dave Jones
Don't forget that if Dave is running his z/VM system on IFL engines and 
not CP ones, he'll need to license ISPF via the special bids process. I 
don't have a clue how one does that; contact your IBM or Business 
Partner for advice.


Have a good one.

C. Lawrence Perkins wrote:
Yes, if ISPF wasn't on your SDO tapes, you'll need to order it.  You can 
get it on ShopZSeries and probably via internet delivery as a Program 
Product envelope.  Or a real tape, but not a reel tape.



On Tue, 5 May 2009 16:21:05 -0700, KEETON Dave * SDC 
dave.kee...@state.or.us wrote:



What I have is the z/VM 5.4 SDO media. If I need an additional ISPF
product tape, I will need to order it.

Thanks,
Dave 


-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of C. Lawrence Perkins
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:17 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: ISPF Post-z/VM Installation

ISPF for VM is one of those semi-VMSES/E products.  It's so old it
predates the rigourous methodology of VMSES/E and had its own install
method based on an install tool EXEC from earlier versions of VM.

The z/VM 5.4 SDO Directory

http://www.vm.ibm.com/sdo/sdozv54.pdf

has a section on installing ISPF and describes the semi-VMSES/E 
procedure, Page 134.


You'll also need the ISPF Program Directory, you can find it here:
http://publibfi.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/i1114480.pdf

This will help when you go to build the ISPF DCSS.

And, I presume you have the ISPF product tape. 


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Houston, TX
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