Re: Need help preparing a presentation explaining how zVM manages storage....zVM 5.2

2008-03-02 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Hamilton, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> -  you only have 8gb of central and 512mb of expanded storage
> however you have 6 linux instances running each defined at 2gb…how is VM
> managing that, especially when you only have 8gb of central?
>
> -  how and when does the 512mb of expanded storage come into play?
>
> -  how and when does the paging volumes come into play?
>
> -  big question how many more linux instances can be built at 2gb
> each?

John is very right that you should not define additional guests now. I
would say you need to go back and define paging space. The only reason
you have no problems now is because the Linux guests are so big they
have not seen data yet to use the memory you gave them. Once they do
(and eventually they will) then you will find 16 GB does not fit in 8
GB. And since you have not even enough paging space, your system will
abend in the near future.

I compare this with a bucket of water on the table. You can push it
pretty far, until at one point very suddenly it falls over the edge.

When the system pages (and you eventually must, to make things cost
effective) you must be prepared to have enough paging space to hold
all virtual memory you promise to your Linux guests. And for
performance reasons you want paging space used at most 50%. So each
new 2G server requires 2 more 3390-3 page packs. Simple math.

Proper sizing and tuning is needed to make it work well. You need a
performance monitor to tell whether you've done it right.

Rob
-- 
Rob van der Heij
Velocity Software, Inc
http://velocitysoftware.com/


Re: Need help preparing a presentation explaining how zVM manages storage....zVM 5.2

2008-03-01 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
Brian,
I suggest you don't define another 2gb Linux guest else VM might run out of 
page slots and then crash.
 Ignoring performance issues, your 2 mod3's of 4.6gb of pages + 8gb C + 0.5gb X 
= 13.1gb and another 2gb Linux guest (14gb of Linux pages) will force CP to 
page the excess to your spool dasd which might not have enough free slots, in 
which case VM crashes.




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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Hamilton, Brian
Sent: Sat 3/1/2008 3:55 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Need help preparing a presentation explaining how zVM manages 
storage....zVM 5.2
 
Trying to put together a high level presentation explaining how VM
manages its storage.  The presentation is being given to our user
community.  

 

Some background info, 

 

1 VM lpar defined with approx. 8gb of central storage and 512mb of
expanded storage, 1 IFL processor.

2 full 3390 mod3's have been defined for paging.

 

6 linux instances running all of which are defined at 2gb.

 

As of today there are no performance issues (knock on wood).

 

Some of the questions being asked thus the reason for the presentation,

 

-  you only have 8gb of central and 512mb of expanded storage
however you have 6 linux instances running each defined at 2gb...how is
VM managing that, especially when you only have 8gb of central? 

-  how and when does the 512mb of expanded storage come into
play?

-  how and when does the paging volumes come into play?

-  big question how many more linux instances can be built at
2gb each? 

 

Thanks


Need help preparing a presentation explaining how zVM manages storage....zVM 5.2

2008-03-01 Thread Hamilton, Brian
Trying to put together a high level presentation explaining how VM
manages its storage.  The presentation is being given to our user
community.  

 

Some background info, 

 

1 VM lpar defined with approx. 8gb of central storage and 512mb of
expanded storage, 1 IFL processor.

2 full 3390 mod3's have been defined for paging.

 

6 linux instances running all of which are defined at 2gb.

 

As of today there are no performance issues (knock on wood).

 

Some of the questions being asked thus the reason for the presentation,

 

-  you only have 8gb of central and 512mb of expanded storage
however you have 6 linux instances running each defined at 2gb...how is
VM managing that, especially when you only have 8gb of central? 

-  how and when does the 512mb of expanded storage come into
play?

-  how and when does the paging volumes come into play?

-  big question how many more linux instances can be built at
2gb each? 

 

Thanks