Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not
You can make OPERATOR a SECUSER of RMSMASTR for this purpose. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alain Benveniste Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 11:16 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not Haha I see... its' look like a patch for my wheel :) I suppose I should open a enhancement for that ! Route the FSMSMS3203I to operator's log would not be a deep development... and a better way to trigger vmtape, vmbackup... Regards Alain Benveniste Le 28 juil. 2010 à 23:28, Schuh, Richard a écrit : Are all of your tapes behind RMSMASTR? We had a situation when RMSMASTR did not start but everything else did. It was 3 days later that we got the first complaints about mounting tapes from the VTS, Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Christy Brogan Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:33 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not Like Richard, we run VM:Tape. Here, it is NOT happy if it tries to start when RMSMASTR isn't ready. (Maybe we can chat Richard!) Basically what we do is to have a sleep in autolog2 to start up RMSMASTR, wait a few minutes and then do VMTAPE. It's not precise, but it works for us. :-) Schuh, Richard ---07/28/2010 01:24:33 PM---You could always loop while trying to mount a tape. When it is mounted, RMSMASTR is ready.:-) In rea From: Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.commailto:rsc...@visa.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 07/28/2010 01:24 PM Subject: Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU You could always loop while trying to mount a tape. When it is mounted, RMSMASTR is ready.:-) In reality, the tape manager should be able to wait to open the interface until RMSMASTR is ready. Here, we have both a VTS, controlled by RMSMASTR, and 2 SL3000s, controlled by STKACS, and some tapes that are outside the silos. VMTAPE manages to initialize before RMSMASTR is ready and is quite happy adding the VTS to its stable when it is ready. If you really need to insure that RMSMASTR is running, you need an Observer or a Secuser of it that looks for the message FSMSMS3203I RMSMASTR is running. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alain Benveniste Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:40 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: RMSMASTR : ready or not Looking back to my autolog2 profile, I found not much pretty to xautolog rmsmastr and sleep 30 sec to xautolog products they require tape mounts. Rather than that I thought to trap a message that says in substance rmsmastr is ready, the tapes drives are there Or rmsmastr did not found a drive to initialize library ABC123 What could I test to be sure of its good initialization ? Alain
Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not
Haha I see... its' look like a patch for my wheel :) I suppose I should open a enhancement for that ! Route the FSMSMS3203I to operator's log would not be a deep development... and a better way to trigger vmtape, vmbackup... Regards Alain Benveniste Le 28 juil. 2010 à 23:28, Schuh, Richard a écrit : Are all of your tapes behind RMSMASTR? We had a situation when RMSMASTR did not start but everything else did. It was 3 days later that we got the first complaints about mounting tapes from the VTS, Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Christy Brogan Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:33 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not Like Richard, we run VM:Tape. Here, it is NOT happy if it tries to start when RMSMASTR isn't ready. (Maybe we can chat Richard!) Basically what we do is to have a sleep in autolog2 to start up RMSMASTR, wait a few minutes and then do VMTAPE. It's not precise, but it works for us. :-) Schuh, Richard ---07/28/2010 01:24:33 PM---You could always loop while trying to mount a tape. When it is mounted, RMSMASTR is ready.:-) In rea From: Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 07/28/2010 01:24 PM Subject: Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU You could always loop while trying to mount a tape. When it is mounted, RMSMASTR is ready.:-) In reality, the tape manager should be able to wait to open the interface until RMSMASTR is ready. Here, we have both a VTS, controlled by RMSMASTR, and 2 SL3000s, controlled by STKACS, and some tapes that are outside the silos. VMTAPE manages to initialize before RMSMASTR is ready and is quite happy adding the VTS to its stable when it is ready. If you really need to insure that RMSMASTR is running, you need an Observer or a Secuser of it that looks for the message FSMSMS3203I RMSMASTR is running. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alain Benveniste Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:40 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: RMSMASTR : ready or not Looking back to my autolog2 profile, I found not much pretty to xautolog rmsmastr and sleep 30 sec to xautolog products they require tape mounts. Rather than that I thought to trap a message that says in substance rmsmastr is ready, the tapes drives are there Or rmsmastr did not found a drive to initialize library ABC123 What could I test to be sure of its good initialization ? Alain
Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not
Alain, Have you looked at making OPERATOR the secondary user (SECUSER) for RMSMASTR? WIll that not route the RMS messages to OPERATOR? On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Alain Benveniste a.benveni...@free.frwrote: Haha I see... its' look like a patch for my wheel :) I suppose I should open a enhancement for that ! Route the FSMSMS3203I to operator's log would not be a deep development... and a better way to trigger vmtape, vmbackup... Regards Alain Benveniste Le 28 juil. 2010 à 23:28, Schuh, Richard a écrit : Are all of your tapes behind RMSMASTR? We had a situation when RMSMASTR did not start but everything else did. It was 3 days later that we got the first complaints about mounting tapes from the VTS, Regards, Richard Schuh
Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not
*/ // Exit: parse arg exitrc . If verify(exitrc,'-0123456789')=0 then Exit exitrc else Exit 99 Notify: parse arg msgtxt 'CP MSG *' msgtxt If ?msgop then 'CP MSG OP' msgtxt Return ResetRdevs: /*/ /* It is possible that we took a power hit, and VM came back up */ /* before the ATL(s) initialized, leaving the devices not*/ /* properly replying to read-device-characteristics CCW. */ /* Drop them from CP and re-add them to get a fresh look.*/ /*/ Call Notify 'It appears that one or more IBM VTLs are' , 'not yet ready, the VTL(s) may still be initializing.' Call Notify 'Retry attempt' rx 'of' retries Do ix=1 to rdevs.0 rdevs=rdevs.ix 'CP VARY OFF' rdevs 'CP VARY OFF SUBCH' rdevs 'CP DELETE RDEVICE' rdevs 'CP SET RDEVICE' rdevs 'TYPE TAPE' 'CP VARY ON SUBCH' rdevs 'CP VARY ON' rdevs End Return I hope that provides some ideas for those in need. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. Christy Brogan ccbro...@us.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 07/28/2010 03:33 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not Like Richard, we run VM:Tape. Here, it is NOT happy if it tries to start when RMSMASTR isn't ready. (Maybe we can chat Richard!) Basically what we do is to have a sleep in autolog2 to start up RMSMASTR, wait a few minutes and then do VMTAPE. It's not precise, but it works for us. :-) Schuh, Richard ---07/28/2010 01:24:33 PM---You could always loop while trying to mount a tape. When it is mounted, RMSMASTR is ready.:-) In rea From: Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 07/28/2010 01:24 PM Subject: Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU You could always loop while trying to mount a tape. When it is mounted, RMSMASTR is ready.:-) In reality, the tape manager should be able to wait to open the interface until RMSMASTR is ready. Here, we have both a VTS, controlled by RMSMASTR, and 2 SL3000s, controlled by STKACS, and some tapes that are outside the silos. VMTAPE manages to initialize before RMSMASTR is ready and is quite happy adding the VTS to its stable when it is ready. If you really need to insure that RMSMASTR is running, you need an Observer or a Secuser of it that looks for the message FSMSMS3203I RMSMASTR is running. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alain Benveniste Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:40 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: RMSMASTR : ready or not Looking back to my autolog2 profile, I found not much pretty to xautolog rmsmastr and sleep 30 sec to xautolog products they require tape mounts. Rather than that I thought to trap a message that says in substance rmsmastr is ready, the tapes drives are there Or rmsmastr did not found a drive to initialize library ABC123 What could I test to be sure of its good initialization ? Alain The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
RMSMASTR : ready or not
Looking back to my autolog2 profile, I found not much pretty to xautolog rmsmastr and sleep 30 sec to xautolog products they require tape mounts. Rather than that I thought to trap a message that says in substance rmsmastr is ready, the tapes drives are there Or rmsmastr did not found a drive to initialize library ABC123 What could I test to be sure of its good initialization ? Alain
Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not
Like Richard, we run VM:Tape. Here, it is NOT happy if it tries to start when RMSMASTR isn't ready. (Maybe we can chat Richard!)Basically what we do is to have a sleep in autolog2 to start up RMSMASTR, wait a few minutes and then do VMTAPE. It's not precise, but it works for us. :-) | | From: | | --| |Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com | --| | | To:| | --| |IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU | --| | | Date: | | --| |07/28/2010 01:24 PM | --| | | Subject: | | --| |Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not | --| | | Sent by: | | --| |The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU | --| You could always loop while trying to mount a tape. When it is mounted, RMSMASTR is ready.:-) In reality, the tape manager should be able to wait to open the interface until RMSMASTR is ready. Here, we have both a VTS, controlled by RMSMASTR, and 2 SL3000s, controlled by STKACS, and some tapes that are outside the silos. VMTAPE manages to initialize before RMSMASTR is ready and is quite happy adding the VTS to its stable when it is ready. If you really need to insure that RMSMASTR is running, you need an Observer or a Secuser of it that looks for the message FSMSMS3203I RMSMASTR is running. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alain Benveniste Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:40 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: RMSMASTR : ready or not Looking back to my autolog2 profile, I found not much pretty to xautolog rmsmastr and sleep 30 sec to xautolog products they require tape mounts. Rather than that I thought to trap a message that says in substance rmsmastr is ready, the tapes drives are there Or rmsmastr did not found a drive to initialize library ABC123 What could I test to be sure of its good initialization ? Alain
Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not
Are all of your tapes behind RMSMASTR? We had a situation when RMSMASTR did not start but everything else did. It was 3 days later that we got the first complaints about mounting tapes from the VTS, Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Christy Brogan Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:33 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not Like Richard, we run VM:Tape. Here, it is NOT happy if it tries to start when RMSMASTR isn't ready. (Maybe we can chat Richard!) Basically what we do is to have a sleep in autolog2 to start up RMSMASTR, wait a few minutes and then do VMTAPE. It's not precise, but it works for us. :-) [cid:1__=88BBFDFDDFE3258B8f9e8a93df938@us.ibm.com] [cid:2__=88BBFDFDDFE3258B8f9e8a93df938@us.ibm.com]Schuh, Richard ---07/28/2010 01:24:33 PM---You could always loop while trying to mount a tape. When it is mounted, RMSMASTR is ready.:-) In rea From: Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 07/28/2010 01:24 PM Subject: Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU You could always loop while trying to mount a tape. When it is mounted, RMSMASTR is ready.:-) In reality, the tape manager should be able to wait to open the interface until RMSMASTR is ready. Here, we have both a VTS, controlled by RMSMASTR, and 2 SL3000s, controlled by STKACS, and some tapes that are outside the silos. VMTAPE manages to initialize before RMSMASTR is ready and is quite happy adding the VTS to its stable when it is ready. If you really need to insure that RMSMASTR is running, you need an Observer or a Secuser of it that looks for the message FSMSMS3203I RMSMASTR is running. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alain Benveniste Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:40 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: RMSMASTR : ready or not Looking back to my autolog2 profile, I found not much pretty to xautolog rmsmastr and sleep 30 sec to xautolog products they require tape mounts. Rather than that I thought to trap a message that says in substance rmsmastr is ready, the tapes drives are there Or rmsmastr did not found a drive to initialize library ABC123 What could I test to be sure of its good initialization ? Alain
Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not
To wait for rmsmastr to be ready before starting tape-dependent products I do a loop of DFSMSRM QUERY LIBRARY OPSTATE (WAIT and when the RC=0 check the response in detail (or assume it's ready), otherwise, for non-zero RC wait a while and check again in whatever time interval suits you or abort after too many waits or seconds. VMLINK DFSMS 1B5 DFSMSRM QUERY LIBRARY OPSTATE (WAIT if you have multiple libraries there's syntax to name the one you're quer ying
Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not
Yes they are. Only takes a few hours for them to complain. :-) | | From: | | --| |Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com | --| | | To:| | --| |IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU | --| | | Date: | | --| |07/28/2010 02:31 PM | --| | | Subject: | | --| |Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not | --| | | Sent by: | | --| |The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU | --| Are all of your tapes behind RMSMASTR? We had a situation when RMSMASTR did not start but everything else did. It was 3 days later that we got the first complaints about mounting tapes from the VTS, Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Christy Brogan Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:33 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not Like Richard, we run VM:Tape. Here, it is NOT happy if it tries to start when RMSMASTR isn't ready. (Maybe we can chat Richard!) Basically what we do is to have a sleep in autolog2 to start up RMSMASTR, wait a few minutes and then do VMTAPE. It's not precise, but it works for us. :-) Schuh, Richard ---07/28/2010 01:24:33 PM---You could always loop while trying to mount a tape. When it is mounted, RMSMASTR is ready.:-) In rea From: Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 07/28/2010 01:24 PM Subject: Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU You could always loop while trying to mount a tape. When it is mounted, RMSMASTR is ready.:-) In reality, the tape manager should be able to wait to open the interface until RMSMASTR is ready. Here, we have both a VTS, controlled by RMSMASTR, and 2 SL3000s, controlled by STKACS, and some tapes that are outside the silos. VMTAPE manages to initialize before RMSMASTR is ready and is quite happy adding
Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not
If they are all behind the VTS, then starting VMTAPE before RMSMASTR is ready will not do you any good. It cannot mount a tape until RMSMASTR is ready. Does the initialization take a long time? Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Christy Brogan Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:52 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not Yes they are. Only takes a few hours for them to complain. :-) [cid:1__=88BBFDFDDFE40AC78f9e8a93df938@us.ibm.com]Schuh, Richard ---07/28/2010 02:31:30 PM---Are all of your tapes behind RMSMASTR? We had a situation when RMSMASTR did not start but everything From: Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 07/28/2010 02:31 PM Subject: Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Are all of your tapes behind RMSMASTR? We had a situation when RMSMASTR did not start but everything else did. It was 3 days later that we got the first complaints about mounting tapes from the VTS, Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Christy Brogan Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:33 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not Like Richard, we run VM:Tape. Here, it is NOT happy if it tries to start when RMSMASTR isn't ready. (Maybe we can chat Richard!) Basically what we do is to have a sleep in autolog2 to start up RMSMASTR, wait a few minutes and then do VMTAPE. It's not precise, but it works for us. :-) Schuh, Richard ---07/28/2010 01:24:33 PM---You could always loop while trying to mount a tape. When it is mounted, RMSMASTR is ready.:-) In rea From: Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 07/28/2010 01:24 PM Subject: Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU You could always loop while trying to mount a tape. When it is mounted, RMSMASTR is ready.:-) In reality, the tape manager should be able to wait to open the interface until RMSMASTR is ready. Here, we have both a VTS, controlled by RMSMASTR, and 2 SL3000s, controlled by STKACS, and some tapes that are outside the silos. VMTAPE manages to initialize before RMSMASTR is ready and is quite happy adding the VTS to its stable when it is ready. If you really need to insure that RMSMASTR is running, you need an Observer or a Secuser of it that looks for the message FSMSMS3203I RMSMASTR is running. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alain Benveniste Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:40 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: RMSMASTR : ready or not Looking back to my autolog2 profile, I found not much pretty to xautolog rmsmastr and sleep 30 sec to xautolog products they require tape mounts. Rather than that I thought to trap a message that says in substance rmsmastr is ready, the tapes drives are there Or rmsmastr did not found a drive to initialize library ABC123 What could I test to be sure of its good initialization ? Alain
Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not
Right, VMTAPE would start before RMSMASTR was finished initializing. So it would go through its initialization and decide that both of his VTS's were nonarm. Then it was hosed until we would recycle it.Moving it down in the list of things, gave RMSMASTR time to get it together before VMTAPE tried to do anything. | | From: | | --| |Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com | --| | | To:| | --| |IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU | --| | | Date: | | --| |07/28/2010 03:06 PM | --| | | Subject: | | --| |Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not | --| | | Sent by: | | --| |The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU | --| If they are all behind the VTS, then starting VMTAPE before RMSMASTR is ready will not do you any good. It cannot mount a tape until RMSMASTR is ready. Does the initialization take a long time? Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Christy Brogan Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:52 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not Yes they are. Only takes a few hours for them to complain. :-) Inactive hide details for Schuh, Richard ---07/28/2010 02:31:30 PM---Are all of your tapes behind RMSMASTR? We had a situatioSchuh, Richard ---07/28/2010 02:31:30 PM---Are all of your tapes behind RMSMASTR? We had a situation when RMSMASTR did not start but everything From: Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 07/28/2010 02:31 PM Subject: Re: RMSMASTR : ready or not Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Are all of your tapes behind RMSMASTR? We had a situation when RMSMASTR did not start but everything else did. It was 3 days later that we got the first complaints about mounting tapes from the VTS, Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM
