Re: Control Unit Port

2009-08-18 Thread Schuh, Richard
I think that Mike Rydberg hit the target. I took a quick look at the PPT 
presentation that August Carideo suggested at 
www.ohvcmg.org/download/22/<http://www.ohvcmg.org/download/22/> .That must be 
the CUP in question. What I did see was several mentions of z/OS and none that 
I noticed of VM. So the question remains,  is the CUP used for anything in 
performance monitoring and reporting in VM? I know that our h/w people do not 
use VM for dynamically configuring anything.


Regards,
Richard Schuh






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I wonder if he / you are referring to port 0  (zero) on a real 3174 type 
control unit ???


Bubba



Re: Control Unit Port

2009-08-18 Thread Schuh, Richard
Ficon director is the more likely meaning. He said something about reporting 
errors, but could not clarify whether or not  he was referring to EREP.

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

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> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Schuh, 
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> > Since he could not answer questions about his request, it 
> is difficult to know. I think he was asking about a Ficon director.
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> Could have meant CUPS (printing)? Seems unlikely, but...
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Re: Control Unit Port

2009-08-18 Thread P S
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Schuh, Richard wrote:
> Since he could not answer questions about his request, it is difficult to 
> know. I think he was asking about a Ficon director.

Could have meant CUPS (printing)? Seems unlikely, but...


Re: Control Unit Port

2009-08-18 Thread Schuh, Richard
Since he could not answer questions about his request, it is difficult to know. 
I think he was asking about a Ficon director.

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

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Re: Control Unit Port

2009-08-18 Thread August Carideo
www.ohvcmg.org/download/22/



   
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I wonder if he / you are referring to port 0  (zero) on a real 3174 type
control unit ???


Bubba


Re: Control Unit Port

2009-08-18 Thread August Carideo
was he asking about a ficon director ?



   
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Forgive me if this becomes a repeat post. I got a message saying that
delivery of the original has been delayed. IO see that it is not yet in the
archives, so I am re-posting.

One of our h/w people asked me if we are using the CUP on VM. I replied by
asking him what a CUP does. He gave me the landline equivalent of a blank
stare. I guess I have to pose the question to the list because I have no
idea how to answer his original question.

Regards,
Richard Schuh


Re: Control Unit Port

2009-08-18 Thread Mike Rydberg
The CUP port is a management port on a FICON Director/switch. It has virtual 
port address of FE on each switch.  Typically the CUP device address is defined 
in IOCP for each switch using the switcg ID and port addres to form the devices 
address. Example. Switch 61 might have the CUP port device address of 61FE.

In a zOS environment you can setup jobs to sample RMF data to find out switch 
level performance data, such as switch port status, average frame size, port 
throughput, etc.

I don't know if the CP MONITOR can sample and report on FICON switch 
performance, but if it did it would use the CUP port to get these stats.
Perhaps Barton or Bill B. could chime in on that point.


Mike

Brocade Communications


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Forgive me if this becomes a repeat post. I got a message saying that delivery 
of the original has been delayed. IO see that it is not yet in the archives, so 
I am re-posting.

One of our h/w people asked me if we are using the CUP on VM. I replied by 
asking him what a CUP does. He gave me the landline equivalent of a blank 
stare. I guess I have to pose the question to the list because I have no idea 
how to answer his original question.

Regards,
Richard Schuh





Re: Control Unit Port

2009-08-18 Thread Robert Payne
I wonder if he / you are referring to port 0  (zero) on a real 3174 type 
control unit ???
 
 
Bubba

 



Re: Control Unit Port

2009-08-18 Thread Schuh, Richard
Control Unit Port (CUP)

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

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> saying that delivery of the original has been delayed. IO see 
> that it is not yet in the archives, so I am re-posting.
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> One of our h/w people asked me if we are using the CUP on VM. 
> I replied by asking him what a CUP does. He gave me the 
> landline equivalent of a blank stare. I guess I have to pose 
> the question to the list because I have no idea how to answer 
> his original question.
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> Regards,
> Richard Schuh
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Re: Control Unit Port

2009-08-18 Thread August Carideo
CUP or CUT



   
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Forgive me if this becomes a repeat post. I got a message saying that
delivery of the original has been delayed. IO see that it is not yet in the
archives, so I am re-posting.

One of our h/w people asked me if we are using the CUP on VM. I replied by
asking him what a CUP does. He gave me the landline equivalent of a blank
stare. I guess I have to pose the question to the list because I have no
idea how to answer his original question.

Regards,
Richard Schuh