Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-08 Thread Stephen Buckles 
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Thank-you Kris,
I downloaded this course and have been going through it.
It appears to be an excellent course.
As they say 'give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach him to 
fish and you feed him for a lifetime'.
 
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If you have some time to learn by reading: our PIPES telecourse on
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Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-08 Thread Huegel, Thomas 
Thank-you Kris,
I downloaded this course and have been going through it.
It appears to be an excellent course.
As they say 'give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach him to fish
and you feed him for a lifetime'.
 

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Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?


If you have some time to learn by reading: our PIPES telecourse on
  http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?TCVM2
<http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?TCVM2> 
It has been refreshed last week. 

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Re: Realy simple pipe insert ? .. Thanks Rob

2007-03-07 Thread Huegel, Thomas 
Thanks Rob,

Nice explaination too.

I'll go away now.

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Behalf Of Rob van der Heij
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:05 AM
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Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?


Frequently plumbing is easier to operate on a record rather than a set
of records. Most of us will resort to some kind of "sipping pipeline"
that operates on such a single set (rather than a stream of sets).

If you need something that will look at two adjacent records, it
sometimes helps to do this:
  | dup | drop | join , , |
Now it's easy to remove the record that has "apple prune" since that
represents an apple followed by a prune. After you removed that, you
use a "spec w1" will get you the single item per record again.

Alternative would be this:
  | o: if between /apple/ 2 | pick w1 <> /prune/ | o: |

Clearly if you know there will be only one apple or one prune, things
get way easier...

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Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-07 Thread Huegel, Thomas 
One bad apple spoils the whole bunch, even if it is a good prune, when you
think you are eating an apple it pretty much spoils the whole day.
Indeed 5 prunes is very bad, that is why we need indoor plumbing, but once I
insert my orange and get rid of that first prune I can consider it a royal
flush.   

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Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 8:40 AM
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Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?



Have you no pride??

 

Before we get carried away down a rat hole, what you expect to happen if
there were 5 prunes following apple?

 

Also, how about posing all your questions at once??  

 

Is someone paying you to ask these questions  Or are they paying you for
the answers?

___
Jim Hughes
603-271-5586
"There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're
talking about."
John von Neumann 


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Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:17 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

 

This is so cool I am getting you guys to write my pipe and I am getting paid
for it.

NOW .. Let's suppose that sometimes there is a PRUNE following that APPLE. I
don't want to mix PRUNE's with APPLES and ORANGES so how can I get rid of
that nasty PRUNE? But ONLY if it is immediatly following APPLE.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Marty Zimelis
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:09 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

Modify the SPECS stage to

 

'SPECS /ORANGES/ 1 write 1-* 1 |',

 

emiting the string ORANGES before copying the existing record, rather than
after it.

 

Marty

 


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Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:07 PM
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Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

This works pretty good. 
There shouldn't be multiple APPLES, but if there is it is OK to add 1
ORANGES for each APPLES. 
But how do I get the ORANGES to get inserted BEFORE apples? 
'PIPE < TEST FILE A',  
'|XXX:  IF LOCATE /APPLES/ ',  
'|SPECS 1-* 1  WRITE /ORANGES/ 1', 
'|XXX:  ', 
'|> NEW FILE A'
  

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<mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> ]On 
Behalf Of Hughes, Jim - OIT 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:55 AM 
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ? 

 

Hi Don, 

I never pay attention to details.  Please read my signature tagline. 

 
Jim Hughes 
603-271-5586 
"There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're 
talking about." 
John von Neumann 

=>-Original Message- 
=>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [ mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
<mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> ] 
On 
=>Behalf Of Don Russell 
=>Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:48 PM 
=>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
=>Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ? 
=> 
=>The original request said they wanted to insert *a* record into the 
=>stream... Your suggestion will insert a record for each record read 
from 
=>the file that contains APPLES. resulting in a file of lines containing 
=>APPLES,separated by lines of ORANGES. 
=> 
=>'PIPE < test file a |', 
=>'locate /APPLES/|', 
=>'strliteral /ORANGES/|', 
=>'> new file a' 
=> 
=>Will result in a "new file a" with one record more than the count of 
=>'APPLES' records found. 
=>The first record of the new file will be ORANGES... if you want it to 
be 
=>the last, use APPEND STRLITERAL... 
=> 
=>Don Russell 
=>> 

 

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Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-07 Thread Rob van der Heij 

Frequently plumbing is easier to operate on a record rather than a set
of records. Most of us will resort to some kind of "sipping pipeline"
that operates on such a single set (rather than a stream of sets).

If you need something that will look at two adjacent records, it
sometimes helps to do this:
 | dup | drop | join , , |
Now it's easy to remove the record that has "apple prune" since that
represents an apple followed by a prune. After you removed that, you
use a "spec w1" will get you the single item per record again.

Alternative would be this:
 | o: if between /apple/ 2 | pick w1 <> /prune/ | o: |

Clearly if you know there will be only one apple or one prune, things
get way easier...

Rob

Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-07 Thread Hughes, Jim - OIT 
Have you no pride??

 

Before we get carried away down a rat hole, what you expect to happen if
there were 5 prunes following apple?

 

Also, how about posing all your questions at once??  

 

Is someone paying you to ask these questions  Or are they paying you
for the answers?

___
Jim Hughes
603-271-5586
"There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're
talking about."
John von Neumann 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:17 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

 

This is so cool I am getting you guys to write my pipe and I am getting
paid for it.

NOW .. Let's suppose that sometimes there is a PRUNE following that
APPLE. I don't want to mix PRUNE's with APPLES and ORANGES so how can I
get rid of that nasty PRUNE? But ONLY if it is immediatly following
APPLE.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marty Zimelis
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:09 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
    Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

Modify the SPECS stage to

 

'SPECS /ORANGES/ 1 write 1-* 1 |',

 

emiting the string ORANGES before copying the existing record,
rather than after it.

 

Marty

 





From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:07 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
    Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

This works pretty good. 
There shouldn't be multiple APPLES, but if there is it
is OK to add 1 ORANGES for each APPLES. 
But how do I get the ORANGES to get inserted BEFORE
apples? 
'PIPE < TEST FILE A',  
'|XXX:  IF LOCATE /APPLES/ ',  
'|SPECS 1-* 1  WRITE /ORANGES/ 1', 
'|XXX:  ', 
'|> NEW FILE A'
  

-Original Message- 
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Behalf Of Hughes, Jim - OIT 
    Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:55 AM 
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ? 

 

Hi Don, 

I never pay attention to details.  Please read my
signature tagline. 

 
Jim Hughes 
603-271-5586 
"There's no sense in being precise when you don't even
know what you're 
talking about." 
John von Neumann 

=>-Original Message- 
=>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On 
=>Behalf Of Don Russell 
        =>Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:48 PM 
=>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
=>Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ? 
=> 
=>The original request said they wanted to insert *a*
record into the 
=>stream... Your suggestion will insert a record for
each record read 
from 
=>the file that contains APPLES. resulting in a file of
lines containing 
=>APPLES,separated by lines of ORANGES. 
=> 
=>'PIPE < test file a |', 
=>'locate /APPLES/|', 
=>'strliteral /ORANGES/|', 
=>'> new file a' 
=> 
=>Will result in a "new file a" with one record more
than the count of 
=>'APPLES' records found. 
=>The first record of the new file will be ORANGES... if
you want it to 
be 
=>the last, use APPEND STRLITERAL... 
=> 
=>Don Russell 
=>> 

 


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Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-07 Thread Huegel, Thomas 
This is so cool I am getting you guys to write my pipe and I am getting paid
for it.
NOW .. Let's suppose that sometimes there is a PRUNE following that APPLE. I
don't want to mix PRUNE's with APPLES and ORANGES so how can I get rid of
that nasty PRUNE? But ONLY if it is immediatly following APPLE.

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Marty Zimelis
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:09 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?


Modify the SPECS stage to
 
'SPECS /ORANGES/ 1 write 1-* 1 |',
 
emiting the string ORANGES before copying the existing record, rather than
after it.
 
Marty



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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:07 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?



This works pretty good. 
There shouldn't be multiple APPLES, but if there is it is OK to add 1
ORANGES for each APPLES. 
But how do I get the ORANGES to get inserted BEFORE apples? 
'PIPE < TEST FILE A',  
'|XXX:  IF LOCATE /APPLES/ ',  
'|SPECS 1-* 1  WRITE /ORANGES/ 1', 
'|XXX:  ', 
'|> NEW FILE A'
  

-Original Message- 
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [ mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
<mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> ]On 
Behalf Of Hughes, Jim - OIT 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:55 AM 
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ? 


Hi Don, 

I never pay attention to details.  Please read my signature tagline. 

 
Jim Hughes 
603-271-5586 
"There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're 
talking about." 
John von Neumann 

=>-Original Message- 
=>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [ mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
<mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> ] 
On 
=>Behalf Of Don Russell 
=>Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:48 PM 
=>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
=>Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ? 
=> 
=>The original request said they wanted to insert *a* record into the 
=>stream... Your suggestion will insert a record for each record read 
from 
=>the file that contains APPLES. resulting in a file of lines containing 
=>APPLES,separated by lines of ORANGES. 
=> 
=>'PIPE < test file a |', 
=>'locate /APPLES/|', 
=>'strliteral /ORANGES/|', 
=>'> new file a' 
=> 
=>Will result in a "new file a" with one record more than the count of 
=>'APPLES' records found. 
=>The first record of the new file will be ORANGES... if you want it to 
be 
=>the last, use APPEND STRLITERAL... 
=> 
=>Don Russell 
=>> 


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Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-06 Thread Shimon Lebowitz 
> > You've all fallen for it! It is a well known fact that you cannot mix 
> > APPLES and ORANGES. Won't work. 
> 
> Add a tablespoon of cinnamon, two tablespoons of light brown sugar per apple 
> and
> orange, and a jigger of really good brandy, and heat on low. Add teaspoons of
> honey slowly until you get a smooth pouring consistency. Watch carefully so 
> the
> syrup and fruit don't burn. Serve over French vanilla ice cream. 
> 

Sitting here this morning going over last night's emails, 
I read this one to my wife (after a short reminder that 'PIPES'
is something that can manipulate files...).

My six year old daughter looked at me after listening to the
recipe and asked "what's brandy?". I told her it's a kind of
liquor. (She knows I have a scotch for "L'Chaim!" on occasion).
She made a face, and said "we have a better way to mix 
apples and oranges". And with a great big smile she said
"FRUIT SALAD!".

That was my OT post for the day. :-)

Shimon

Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-06 Thread Llewellyn, Mark 
Again, D'oh.  Insert a RECORD.  The SPECS example will do it, of course.
I should never do email and chew gum at the same time.  



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Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 10:03 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?


Assuming there aren't any compound versions of APPLES in the input file
(like SNAPPLES):
 
'PIPE < INPUT FILE A | change /APPLES/ORANGES APPLES/ | > NEW FILE A'
 
Mark Llewellyn
VISA USA



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Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:44 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?


Marty,
 
Yes I want to pass the entire file to 'new file a' and insert ORANGES
before APPLES.
 
Thanks

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Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:41 AM
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    Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?


I'm guessing you didn't give us the full request.  I assume that
records without the string APPLES pass unchanged.  Records with the
string APPLES: do you want to replace the string or the entire record
with ORANGES?  Or do you want to insert a new record (ORANGES)?  If an
insert, before or after the record with APPLES?
 
Marty
 
Martin Zimelis 
Principal 
maz/Consultancy 




From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
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Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:27 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Realy simple pipe insert ?


I want to do a simple insert of a record into the
stream.
 
pipe < test file a | locate /APPLES/ | here I want
to insert a literal ORANGES | > new file a

Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-06 Thread Kris Buelens 

If you have some time to learn by reading: our PIPES telecourse on
 http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?TCVM2
It has been refreshed last week.

--
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support

Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-06 Thread Marty Zimelis 
Modify the SPECS stage to
 
'SPECS /ORANGES/ 1 write 1-* 1 |',
 
emiting the string ORANGES before copying the existing record, rather than
after it.
 
Marty



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Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:07 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?



This works pretty good. 
There shouldn't be multiple APPLES, but if there is it is OK to add 1
ORANGES for each APPLES. 
But how do I get the ORANGES to get inserted BEFORE apples? 
'PIPE < TEST FILE A',  
'|XXX:  IF LOCATE /APPLES/ ',  
'|SPECS 1-* 1  WRITE /ORANGES/ 1', 
'|XXX:  ', 
'|> NEW FILE A'
  

-Original Message- 
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Behalf Of Hughes, Jim - OIT 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:55 AM 
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ? 


Hi Don, 

I never pay attention to details.  Please read my signature tagline. 

 
Jim Hughes 
603-271-5586 
"There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're 
talking about." 
John von Neumann 

=>-Original Message- 
=>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On 
=>Behalf Of Don Russell 
=>Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:48 PM 
=>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
=>Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ? 
=> 
=>The original request said they wanted to insert *a* record into the 
=>stream... Your suggestion will insert a record for each record read 
from 
=>the file that contains APPLES. resulting in a file of lines containing 
=>APPLES,separated by lines of ORANGES. 
=> 
=>'PIPE < test file a |', 
=>'locate /APPLES/|', 
=>'strliteral /ORANGES/|', 
=>'> new file a' 
=> 
=>Will result in a "new file a" with one record more than the count of 
=>'APPLES' records found. 
=>The first record of the new file will be ORANGES... if you want it to 
be 
=>the last, use APPEND STRLITERAL... 
=> 
=>Don Russell 
=>> 


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Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-06 Thread David Boyes 
> You've all fallen for it! It is a well known fact that you cannot mix 
> APPLES and ORANGES. Won't work. 

Add a tablespoon of cinnamon, two tablespoons of light brown sugar per apple
and orange, and a jigger of really good brandy, and heat on low. Add
teaspoons of honey slowly until you get a smooth pouring consistency. Watch
carefully so the syrup and fruit don't burn. Serve over French vanilla ice
cream. 

> Even PIPES can't do it!

It's only a matter of application. 

It must be Friday somewhere8-)

-- db

Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-06 Thread Llewellyn, Mark 
"PIPE literal D'oh! | console"



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You've all fallen for it! It is a well known fact that you cannot mix
APPLES and ORANGES. Won't work. Even PIPES can't do it! 
 
 

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HealthMarkets
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Assuming there aren't any compound versions of APPLES in the
input file (like SNAPPLES):
 
'PIPE < INPUT FILE A | change /APPLES/ORANGES APPLES/ | > NEW
FILE A'
 
Mark Llewellyn
VISA USA



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Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:44 AM
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Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?


Marty,
 
Yes I want to pass the entire file to 'new file a' and insert
ORANGES before APPLES.
 
Thanks

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marty Zimelis
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:41 AM
    To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?


I'm guessing you didn't give us the full request.  I
assume that records without the string APPLES pass unchanged.  Records
with the string APPLES: do you want to replace the string or the entire
record with ORANGES?  Or do you want to insert a new record (ORANGES)?
If an insert, before or after the record with APPLES?
 
Marty
 
Martin Zimelis 
Principal 
maz/Consultancy 




From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:27 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Realy simple pipe insert ?


I want to do a simple insert of a record into
the stream.
 
pipe < test file a | locate /APPLES/ | here
I want to insert a literal ORANGES | > new file a

Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-06 Thread McKown, John 
You've all fallen for it! It is a well known fact that you cannot mix
APPLES and ORANGES. Won't work. Even PIPES can't do it! 
 
 

--
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Senior Systems Programmer
HealthMarkets
Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage
Administrative Services Group
Information Technology

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-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Llewellyn, Mark
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:03 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
        Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?


Assuming there aren't any compound versions of APPLES in the
input file (like SNAPPLES):
 
'PIPE < INPUT FILE A | change /APPLES/ORANGES APPLES/ | > NEW
FILE A'
 
Mark Llewellyn
VISA USA



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:44 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
    Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?


Marty,
 
Yes I want to pass the entire file to 'new file a' and insert
ORANGES before APPLES.
 
Thanks

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marty Zimelis
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:41 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
    Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?


I'm guessing you didn't give us the full request.  I
assume that records without the string APPLES pass unchanged.  Records
with the string APPLES: do you want to replace the string or the entire
record with ORANGES?  Or do you want to insert a new record (ORANGES)?
If an insert, before or after the record with APPLES?
 
Marty
 
Martin Zimelis 
Principal 
maz/Consultancy 




From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:27 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Realy simple pipe insert ?


I want to do a simple insert of a record into
the stream.
 
pipe < test file a | locate /APPLES/ | here
I want to insert a literal ORANGES | > new file a

Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-06 Thread Huegel, Thomas 
This works pretty good.
There shouldn't be multiple APPLES, but if there is it is OK to add 1
ORANGES for each APPLES.
But how do I get the ORANGES to get inserted BEFORE apples?
'PIPE < TEST FILE A',  
'|XXX:  IF LOCATE /APPLES/ ',  
'|SPECS 1-* 1  WRITE /ORANGES/ 1', 
'|XXX:  ', 
'|> NEW FILE A'
  

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Hughes, Jim - OIT
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:55 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?


Hi Don,

I never pay attention to details.  Please read my signature tagline.

 
Jim Hughes
603-271-5586
"There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're
talking about."
John von Neumann

=>-Original Message-
=>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
=>Behalf Of Don Russell
=>Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:48 PM
=>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
=>Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?
=>
=>The original request said they wanted to insert *a* record into the
=>stream... Your suggestion will insert a record for each record read
from
=>the file that contains APPLES. resulting in a file of lines containing
=>APPLES,separated by lines of ORANGES.
=>
=>'PIPE < test file a |',
=>'locate /APPLES/|',
=>'strliteral /ORANGES/|',
=>'> new file a'
=>
=>Will result in a "new file a" with one record more than the count of
=>'APPLES' records found.
=>The first record of the new file will be ORANGES... if you want it to
be
=>the last, use APPEND STRLITERAL...
=>
=>Don Russell
=>>


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Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-06 Thread Marty Zimelis 
Jim Hughes' second offering clearly does what you want.  If you prefer not
to use the IF convenience, his translates to
 
   'PIPE (end ?)',
  '< test file a |',
 'xxx: locate /APPLES/ |',
  'spec /ORANGES/ 1 write 1-* 1 |',
 'i: faninany |',
  '> new file a',
'?',
 'xxx: | i:'
 
Marty
 
Martin Zimelis 
Principal 
maz/Consultancy 


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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:44 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?


Marty,
 
Yes I want to pass the entire file to 'new file a' and insert ORANGES before
APPLES.
 
Thanks

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Marty Zimelis
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:41 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?


I'm guessing you didn't give us the full request.  I assume that records
without the string APPLES pass unchanged.  Records with the string APPLES:
do you want to replace the string or the entire record with ORANGES?  Or do
you want to insert a new record (ORANGES)?  If an insert, before or after
the record with APPLES?
 
Marty
 
Martin Zimelis 
Principal 
maz/Consultancy 


  _  

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:27 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Realy simple pipe insert ?


I want to do a simple insert of a record into the stream.
 
pipe < test file a | locate /APPLES/ | here I want to insert a literal
ORANGES | > new file a

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Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-06 Thread Llewellyn, Mark 
Assuming there aren't any compound versions of APPLES in the input file
(like SNAPPLES):
 
'PIPE < INPUT FILE A | change /APPLES/ORANGES APPLES/ | > NEW FILE A'
 
Mark Llewellyn
VISA USA



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:44 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?


Marty,
 
Yes I want to pass the entire file to 'new file a' and insert ORANGES
before APPLES.
 
Thanks

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marty Zimelis
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:41 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
    Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?


I'm guessing you didn't give us the full request.  I assume that
records without the string APPLES pass unchanged.  Records with the
string APPLES: do you want to replace the string or the entire record
with ORANGES?  Or do you want to insert a new record (ORANGES)?  If an
insert, before or after the record with APPLES?
 
Marty
 
Martin Zimelis 
Principal 
maz/Consultancy 




From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:27 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Realy simple pipe insert ?


I want to do a simple insert of a record into the
stream.
 
pipe < test file a | locate /APPLES/ | here I want
to insert a literal ORANGES | > new file a

Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-06 Thread Hughes, Jim - OIT 
Hi Don,

I never pay attention to details.  Please read my signature tagline.

 
Jim Hughes
603-271-5586
"There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're
talking about."
John von Neumann

=>-Original Message-
=>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
=>Behalf Of Don Russell
=>Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:48 PM
=>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
=>Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?
=>
=>The original request said they wanted to insert *a* record into the
=>stream... Your suggestion will insert a record for each record read
from
=>the file that contains APPLES. resulting in a file of lines containing
=>APPLES,separated by lines of ORANGES.
=>
=>'PIPE < test file a |',
=>'locate /APPLES/|',
=>'strliteral /ORANGES/|',
=>'> new file a'
=>
=>Will result in a "new file a" with one record more than the count of
=>'APPLES' records found.
=>The first record of the new file will be ORANGES... if you want it to
be
=>the last, use APPEND STRLITERAL...
=>
=>Don Russell
=>>

Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-06 Thread Don Russell 
The original request said they wanted to insert *a* record into the 
stream... Your suggestion will insert a record for each record read from 
the file that contains APPLES. resulting in a file of lines containing 
APPLES,separated by lines of ORANGES.


'PIPE < test file a |',
'locate /APPLES/|',
'strliteral /ORANGES/|',
'> new file a'

Will result in a "new file a" with one record more than the count of 
'APPLES' records found.
The first record of the new file will be ORANGES... if you want it to be 
the last, use APPEND STRLITERAL...


Don Russell


Hughes, Jim - OIT wrote:


“PIPE < test file a |”,

“ locate /APPLES/ |”,

“ specs 1-* 1 write /ORANGES/ 1 |”,

“ > new file a”


Jim Hughes
603-271-5586
"There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what 
you're talking about."

John von Neumann



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*On Behalf Of *Huegel, Thomas

*Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:27 PM
*To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
*Subject:* Realy simple pipe insert ?

I want to do a simple insert of a record into the stream.

pipe < test file a | locate /APPLES/ .| here I want to insert a 
literal ORANGES | > new file a






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Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-06 Thread Hughes, Jim - OIT 
Picky, picky, picky...

 

"pipe < test file a  |",

 " xxx:  if locate /APPLES/  |",

  "   specs /ORANGES/ 1 write 1-* 1 |",

   " xxx:|",

 " > new file a"

 

 


Jim Hughes
603-271-5586
"There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're
talking about."
John von Neumann 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:41 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

 

Jim,

Not quite.

I need to write the entire input file back out to 'new file a' and
insert ORANGES before APPLES.

 

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hughes, Jim - OIT
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:32 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

"PIPE < test file a   |",

   " locate /APPLES/  |",

  " specs 1-* 1  write /ORANGES/ 1 |",

 " > new file a"

 


Jim Hughes
603-271-5586
"There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what
you're talking about."
John von Neumann 





From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:27 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Realy simple pipe insert ?

 

I want to do a simple insert of a record into the stream.

 

pipe < test file a | locate /APPLES/ .| here I want to
insert a literal ORANGES | > new file a

 




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Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-06 Thread Huegel, Thomas 
Marty,
 
Yes I want to pass the entire file to 'new file a' and insert ORANGES before
APPLES.
 
Thanks

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Marty Zimelis
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:41 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?


I'm guessing you didn't give us the full request.  I assume that records
without the string APPLES pass unchanged.  Records with the string APPLES:
do you want to replace the string or the entire record with ORANGES?  Or do
you want to insert a new record (ORANGES)?  If an insert, before or after
the record with APPLES?
 
Marty
 
Martin Zimelis 
Principal 
maz/Consultancy 


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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:27 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Realy simple pipe insert ?


I want to do a simple insert of a record into the stream.
 
pipe < test file a | locate /APPLES/ .| here I want to insert a literal
ORANGES | > new file a

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Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-06 Thread Marty Zimelis 
I'm guessing you didn't give us the full request.  I assume that records
without the string APPLES pass unchanged.  Records with the string APPLES:
do you want to replace the string or the entire record with ORANGES?  Or do
you want to insert a new record (ORANGES)?  If an insert, before or after
the record with APPLES?
 
Marty
 
Martin Zimelis 
Principal 
maz/Consultancy 


  _  

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:27 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Realy simple pipe insert ?


I want to do a simple insert of a record into the stream.
 
pipe < test file a | locate /APPLES/ .| here I want to insert a literal
ORANGES | > new file a

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Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-06 Thread Huegel, Thomas 
Jim,
Not quite.
I need to write the entire input file back out to 'new file a' and insert
ORANGES before APPLES.
 
Thanks

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Hughes, Jim - OIT
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:32 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?



"PIPE < test file a   |",

   " locate /APPLES/  |",

  " specs 1-* 1  write /ORANGES/ 1 |",

 " > new file a"

 


Jim Hughes
603-271-5586
"There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're
talking about."
John von Neumann 


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I want to do a simple insert of a record into the stream.

 

pipe < test file a | locate /APPLES/ .| here I want to insert a literal
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Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-06 Thread Hughes, Jim - OIT 
"PIPE < test file a   |",

   " locate /APPLES/  |",

  " specs 1-* 1  write /ORANGES/ 1 |",

 " > new file a"

 


Jim Hughes
603-271-5586
"There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're
talking about."
John von Neumann 



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:27 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Realy simple pipe insert ?

 

I want to do a simple insert of a record into the stream.

 

pipe < test file a | locate /APPLES/ .| here I want to insert a
literal ORANGES | > new file a







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