Re: SALIPL - Stand Alone Program Loader

2009-11-01 Thread Edi Lopes Alves
Hi Mike,
If you wanted some command to do the IPL changing the module name, have 
you tried
 = SHUTDOWN REIPL diskaddress  1 MODULE cploadname IPLPARMS CONS=address

Regards
Edi Lopes Alves 
Location: IBM Hortolândia - São Paulo - Brazil 








From:
Mike Atkison mike.atki...@mantissa.com
To:
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date:
29/10/2009 13:48
Subject:
SALIPL - Stand Alone Program Loader



Is there a method to programmatically change the MODULE NAME in the Stand 
Alone Program Loader without going through the SAPL Panel?  For example, 
if a mini-disk has two load modules, is there a method to pass a module 
name and bypass the SAPL Panel altogether?
Thanks,
Mike Atkison



Re: SALIPL - Stand Alone Program Loader

2009-11-01 Thread Mike Atkison
Edi,

Thanks for the reply.  Actually, I am attempting to ipl one of two
applications that will run under VM, so shutting down is not an option.  I
was trying to get away with only having one SAPL on the minidisk and two
applications.

 

Thanks,

 

Mike Atkison

 

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Subject: Re: SALIPL - Stand Alone Program Loader

 


Hi Mike, 
If you wanted some command to do the IPL changing the module name, have you
tried 
 = SHUTDOWN REIPL diskaddress  1 MODULE cploadname IPLPARMS CONS=address 

Regards 


Edi Lopes Alves  
Location: IBM Hortolândia - São Paulo - Brazil 









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Date: 

29/10/2009 13:48 


Subject: 

SALIPL - Stand Alone Program Loader

 

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Is there a method to programmatically change the MODULE NAME in the Stand
Alone Program Loader without going through the SAPL Panel?  For example, if
a mini-disk has two load modules, is there a method to pass a module name
and bypass the SAPL Panel altogether? 

Thanks, 

Mike Atkison 



Re: SALIPL - Stand Alone Program Loader

2009-10-30 Thread Mike Atkison
Thanks for all the responses on this question.

 

Mike Atkison

 

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Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 3:02 PM
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Subject: Re: SALIPL - Stand Alone Program Loader

 

When the menu is produced on the designated console (which is what the
loadparm does), you can change the name of the module to load, the name of
the CONFIG file, the location of the parm disk, and the OPERATOR console
address. The changes are not permanent,  reverting to their old values for
the next IPL.

 

One quirk - if you do specify cons=addr via the menu, it replaces both the
OPERATOR and  emergency console lists with that single address for the
duration of that IPL.  

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

 

 

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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 11:56 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: SALIPL - Stand Alone Program Loader

No, there is not, the IPL LOADPARM only allows to change the console
address:
- rdev  -- start SAPL on rdev



Re: SALIPL - Stand Alone Program Loader

2009-10-30 Thread Wandschneider, Scott
Will the following procedure accomplish what you are looking for?

 

1)  Log on to Maint

2)  Link * 123 123 mw

3)  Spool pun *

4)  punch ipl salipl * (noh

a.   RDR FILE  SENT FROM MAINTPUN WAS 0232 RECS 0944 CPY
001 A NOHOLD NOKEEP

5)  order rdr  

a.   Where  is the spool number from the previous punch

6)  Term conmode 3270 

a.Receive message DMSCIT171T Permanent console error; re-IPL CMS


7)  ipl 00c clear

8)  Receive a blank panel similar to below.

9)  Fill in the panel as follows:

a.   Device Number:Virtual address (123) from step 2 above.

b.  Module Name:  Change to new default name. 

c.   MiniDisk Offset:   Enter the Starting Cylinder for MAINT's CF1
MDISK

 
i.  MDISK 0CF1 3390 039 120 520RES RR READ WRITE MULTIPLE   

 
ii.  MDISK 0CF2 3390 159 120 520RES RR READ WRITE MULTIPLE   

 
iii.  MDISK 0CF3 3390 279 120 520RES RR READ WRITE MULTIPLE   

 
iv.  MDISK 0CF4 3390 501 120 520W03 RR READ WRITE MULTIPLE

d.  Load Origin: Modify appropriately

10)  Hit PF10 to Write the IPL Reords

11)  Hit PA1

12)  IPL 190 (or IPL CMS)

 

 

 

 

Thank you,

 

Scott

 

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Subject: Re: SALIPL - Stand Alone Program Loader

 

Thanks for all the responses on this question.

 

Mike Atkison

 

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Schuh, Richard
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 3:02 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: SALIPL - Stand Alone Program Loader

 

When the menu is produced on the designated console (which is what the
loadparm does), you can change the name of the module to load, the name
of the CONFIG file, the location of the parm disk, and the OPERATOR
console address. The changes are not permanent,  reverting to their old
values for the next IPL.

 

One quirk - if you do specify cons=addr via the menu, it replaces both
the OPERATOR and  emergency console lists with that single address for
the duration of that IPL.  

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

 

 



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[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 11:56 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: SALIPL - Stand Alone Program Loader

No, there is not, the IPL LOADPARM only allows to change the
console address:
- rdev  -- start SAPL on rdev



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SALIPL - Stand Alone Program Loader

2009-10-29 Thread Mike Atkison
Is there a method to programmatically change the MODULE NAME in the Stand
Alone Program Loader without going through the SAPL Panel?  For example, if
a mini-disk has two load modules, is there a method to pass a module name
and bypass the SAPL Panel altogether?

Thanks,
Mike Atkison




Re: SALIPL - Stand Alone Program Loader

2009-10-29 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
try HELP SALIPL
SALIPL has a ( MODULE filename option; default is (MODULE CPLOAD

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Is there a method to programmatically change the MODULE NAME in the Stand Alone 
Program Loader without going through the SAPL Panel?  For example, if a 
mini-disk has two load modules, is there a method to pass a module name and 
bypass the SAPL Panel altogether?

Thanks,

Mike Atkison


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Re: SALIPL - Stand Alone Program Loader

2009-10-29 Thread Kris Buelens
No, there is not, the IPL LOADPARM only allows to change the console
address:
- rdev  -- start SAPL on rdev
- CONSrdev -- bypass SAPL's panel, load the CP nucleus (defined by
SALIPL)
 and pass CONS=rdev to CP

2009/10/29 Mike Atkison mike.atki...@mantissa.com

  Is there a method to programmatically change the MODULE NAME in the Stand
 Alone Program Loader without going through the SAPL Panel?  For example,
 if a mini-disk has two load modules, is there a method to pass a module
 name and bypass the SAPL Panel altogether?

 Thanks,

 Mike Atkison




-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: SALIPL - Stand Alone Program Loader

2009-10-29 Thread Schuh, Richard
ipl vdev loadp ccuu

where ccuu is the vdev of your console. You can specify the module name on the 
display you get on the designated terminal.


Regards,
Richard Schuh






From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Mike Atkison
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 10:35 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: SALIPL - Stand Alone Program Loader


Is there a method to programmatically change the MODULE NAME in the Stand Alone 
Program Loader without going through the SAPL Panel?  For example, if a 
mini-disk has two load modules, is there a method to pass a module name and 
bypass the SAPL Panel altogether?

Thanks,

Mike Atkison


Re: SALIPL - Stand Alone Program Loader

2009-10-29 Thread Schuh, Richard
When the menu is produced on the designated console (which is what the loadparm 
does), you can change the name of the module to load, the name of the CONFIG 
file, the location of the parm disk, and the OPERATOR console address. The 
changes are not permanent,  reverting to their old values for the next IPL.

One quirk - if you do specify cons=addr via the menu, it replaces both the 
OPERATOR and  emergency console lists with that single address for the duration 
of that IPL.

Regards,
Richard Schuh






From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 11:56 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: SALIPL - Stand Alone Program Loader

No, there is not, the IPL LOADPARM only allows to change the console address:
- rdev  -- start SAPL on rdev


Re: SALIPL - Stand Alone Program Loader

2009-10-29 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 10/29/2009 at 04:08 EDT, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com 
wrote:
 When the menu is produced on the designated console (which is what  the 
 loadparm does), you can change the name of the module to load, the name 
of  the 
 CONFIG file, the location of the parm disk, and the OPERATOR console 
 address. The changes are not permanent,  reverting to their old values 
for the 
 next IPL.

The request was for a method that does not require the SAPL screen.  Kris 
was right, there is no such method.  Only the filename of SYSTEM CONFIG 
can be specified on the LOADPARM without bringing up the SAPL screen. E.g. 
LOADPARM FNABC will cause FN=ABC to be added to the SAPL parms, overriding 
any burned-in specification.

 One quirk - if you do specify cons=addr via the menu, it replaces  both 
the 
 OPERATOR and  emergency console lists with that single  address for the 
 duration of that IPL.

That's correct for OPERATOR_CONSOLES, but if it's happening for the 
emergency console list, it's a bug.  Here's what the book says:

If the CONS=addr or CON=addr parameter was specified on the Stand-Alone 
Program Loader (SAPL) panel to specify a console address and this console 
address is not already specified on the EMERGENCY_MESSAGE_CONSOLES 
statement, it is added to the list of emergency message consoles. 

When you specify a console on the LOADPARM, SAPL creates a CONS=addr entry 
and the above rule applies.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: SALIPL - Stand Alone Program Loader

2009-10-29 Thread Schuh, Richard
It happened the last time I used the menu in a virtual machine. However, that 
was early in my 5.3 ventures. The loader may even have been at the 5.2 level, 
loading a 5.3 system. I will try it when I start testing 6.1 and, if it is 
still doing it, I will open an incident. 

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

 That's correct for OPERATOR_CONSOLES, but if it's happening 
 for the emergency console list, it's a bug.  Here's what the 
 book says:
 
 If the CONS=addr or CON=addr parameter was specified on the 
 Stand-Alone Program Loader (SAPL) panel to specify a console 
 address and this console address is not already specified on 
 the EMERGENCY_MESSAGE_CONSOLES statement, it is added to the 
 list of emergency message consoles. 
 
 When you specify a console on the LOADPARM, SAPL creates a 
 CONS=addr entry and the above rule applies.
 
 Alan Altmark
 z/VM Development
 IBM Endicott
 

Re: SALIPL - Stand Alone Program Loader

2009-10-29 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 10/29/2009 at 05:00 EDT, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com 
wrote:
 It happened the last time I used the menu in a virtual machine. However, 
that 
 was early in my 5.3 ventures. The loader may even have been at the 5.2 
level, 
 loading a 5.3 system. I will try it when I start testing 6.1 and, if it 
is 
 still doing it, I will open an incident.

The support was added to VM/ESA V1 R2.2 by APAR VM58068 to VM/ESA V2R2 
wy back in 1994.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott