Re: SFS Control Data Backup

2008-06-11 Thread Mike Walter
IUCV 
0009  S$SFAUD1 *IDENT 000500FF      C0IUCV 
000A  S$SFPCS1 *IDENT 000F00FF      C0IUCV 
000B  S$SFACT1 *IDENT 000B00FF      C0IUCV 
000C  S$CPIC   *IDENT 00FF      C0IUCV 
000D  AVSVM*IDENT 000300FF      C0IUCV 
M2WALTER HALINVA1; T=1.28/1.71 09:09:52 

I hope that helps to provide some useful clues.

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
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represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.




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On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:17:39 -0700, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot
e:

It sure would be nice to know who is hammering the server. It is tough
to correct a problem when it can't be defined. 

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

There is some IUCV data in the monitor.  I don't have access to http://w
ww.vm.ibm.com/ (down?) 
nor Velocity Software manuals from home.  There is a QUERY IUCV command i
n z/VM 5.3.0, but it 
does not include message counts. QIUCV EXEC floating around does have som
e such data -- but I'm 
not sure to what level of detail.

Alan Ackerman
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Re: SFS Control Data Backup

2008-06-11 Thread Kris Buelens
IUCV
 0002  S$SFCRR1 *IDENT 000800FF      C0IUCV
 0003  S$SFCRR1 *IDENT 000900FF      C0IUCV
 0004  S$SFCRR1 *IDENT 000A00FF      C0IUCV
 0005  S$SFCRR1 *IDENT 000B00FF      C0IUCV
 0006  VMSERVS  *IDENT 000500FF      C0IUCV
 0007  S$SFPPS1 *IDENT 000800FF      C0IUCV
 0008  S$SFGEN1 *IDENT 000900FF      C0IUCV
 0009  S$SFAUD1 *IDENT 000500FF      C0IUCV
 000A  S$SFPCS1 *IDENT 000F00FF      C0IUCV
 000B  S$SFACT1 *IDENT 000B00FF      C0IUCV
 000C  S$CPIC   *IDENT 00FF      C0IUCV
 000D  AVSVM*IDENT 000300FF      C0IUCV
 M2WALTER HALINVA1; T=1.28/1.71 09:09:52

 I hope that helps to provide some useful clues.

 Mike Walter
 Hewitt Associates
 Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily
 represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.



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 On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:17:39 -0700, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot
 e:

It sure would be nice to know who is hammering the server. It is tough
to correct a problem when it can't be defined.

Regards,
Richard Schuh

 There is some IUCV data in the monitor.  I don't have access to http://w
 ww.vm.ibm.com/ (down?)
 nor Velocity Software manuals from home.  There is a QUERY IUCV command i
 n z/VM 5.3.0, but it
 does not include message counts. QIUCV EXEC floating around does have som
 e such data -- but I'm
 not sure to what level of detail.

 Alan Ackerman
 Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com


 
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Re: SFS Control Data Backup

2008-06-10 Thread Sue Farrell
No, there isn't a way to specify the threshold.  It will start 
automatically when the log is 80% full.  
 
You could probably write some kind of tool to use the output of QUERY 
FILEPOOL LOG to detect a threshold and send a BACKUP request to the file 

pool server machine.

Sue Farrell


Re: SFS Control Data Backup

2008-06-10 Thread Schuh, Richard
Thanks. That is what I concluded due to the lack of documentation to the
contrary.

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

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 Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:31 AM
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 No, there isn't a way to specify the threshold.  It will 
 start automatically when the log is 80% full.  
  
 You could probably write some kind of tool to use the output 
 of QUERY FILEPOOL LOG to detect a threshold and send a BACKUP 
 request to the file =
 
 pool server machine.
 
 Sue Farrell
 


Re: SFS Control Data Backup

2008-06-10 Thread Kris Buelens
Maybe Q FILEPOOL AGENT

2008/6/10 Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Next question. Yesterday and again today, we seem to be taking an
 abnormally high number of control data backups. How do I determine the
 cause of this unusual activity?

 Regards,
 Richard Schuh



 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Farrell
 Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:31 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: SFS Control Data Backup

 No, there isn't a way to specify the threshold.  It will
 start automatically when the log is 80% full.

 You could probably write some kind of tool to use the output
 of QUERY FILEPOOL LOG to detect a threshold and send a BACKUP
 request to the file =

 pool server machine.

 Sue Farrell





-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: SFS Control Data Backup

2008-06-10 Thread Schuh, Richard
That shows the current agents, their agent numbers and the type of wait
they are in. What it does not show is the level of activity that the
individual agents are responsible for. At any given time, we will have
from 10 to 100 or more agents in the list.

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

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 Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:13 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: SFS Control Data Backup
 
 Maybe Q FILEPOOL AGENT
 
 2008/6/10 Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Next question. Yesterday and again today, we seem to be taking an 
  abnormally high number of control data backups. How do I 
 determine the 
  cause of this unusual activity?
 
  Regards,
  Richard Schuh
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Farrell
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:31 AM
  To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
  Subject: Re: SFS Control Data Backup
 
  No, there isn't a way to specify the threshold.  It will start 
  automatically when the log is 80% full.
 
  You could probably write some kind of tool to use the 
 output of QUERY 
  FILEPOOL LOG to detect a threshold and send a BACKUP 
 request to the 
  file =
 
  pool server machine.
 
  Sue Farrell
 
 
 
 
 
 --
 Kris Buelens,
 IBM Belgium, VM customer support
 


Re: SFS Control Data Backup

2008-06-10 Thread Kris Buelens
I meant you could see agents more active than usual...  To know it
all: turn on Auditing (disruptive change)

2008/6/10 Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 That shows the current agents, their agent numbers and the type of wait
 they are in. What it does not show is the level of activity that the
 individual agents are responsible for. At any given time, we will have
 from 10 to 100 or more agents in the list.

 Regards,
 Richard Schuh



 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens
 Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:13 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: SFS Control Data Backup

 Maybe Q FILEPOOL AGENT

 2008/6/10 Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Next question. Yesterday and again today, we seem to be taking an
  abnormally high number of control data backups. How do I
 determine the
  cause of this unusual activity?
 
  Regards,
  Richard Schuh
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Farrell
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:31 AM
  To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
  Subject: Re: SFS Control Data Backup
 
  No, there isn't a way to specify the threshold.  It will start
  automatically when the log is 80% full.
 
  You could probably write some kind of tool to use the
 output of QUERY
  FILEPOOL LOG to detect a threshold and send a BACKUP
 request to the
  file =
 
  pool server machine.
 
  Sue Farrell
 
 



 --
 Kris Buelens,
 IBM Belgium, VM customer support





-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: SFS Control Data Backup

2008-06-10 Thread Schuh, Richard
It looks like Audit is a security audit, not an activity monitor. For
example, it will tell me how many times I have been allowed access to a
file space for which I am not explicitly authorized.  

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens
 Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:25 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: SFS Control Data Backup
 
 I meant you could see agents more active than usual...  To know it
 all: turn on Auditing (disruptive change)
 
 2008/6/10 Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  That shows the current agents, their agent numbers and the type of 
  wait they are in. What it does not show is the level of 
 activity that 
  the individual agents are responsible for. At any given 
 time, we will 
  have from 10 to 100 or more agents in the list.
 
  Regards,
  Richard Schuh
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:13 AM
  To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
  Subject: Re: SFS Control Data Backup
 
  Maybe Q FILEPOOL AGENT
 
  2008/6/10 Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   Next question. Yesterday and again today, we seem to be 
 taking an 
   abnormally high number of control data backups. How do I
  determine the
   cause of this unusual activity?
  
   Regards,
   Richard Schuh
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Farrell
   Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:31 AM
   To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
   Subject: Re: SFS Control Data Backup
  
   No, there isn't a way to specify the threshold.  It will start 
   automatically when the log is 80% full.
  
   You could probably write some kind of tool to use the
  output of QUERY
   FILEPOOL LOG to detect a threshold and send a BACKUP
  request to the
   file =
  
   pool server machine.
  
   Sue Farrell
  
  
 
 
 
  --
  Kris Buelens,
  IBM Belgium, VM customer support
 
 
 
 
 
 --
 Kris Buelens,
 IBM Belgium, VM customer support
 


Re: SFS Control Data Backup

2008-06-10 Thread Kris Buelens
The SFS performance stats don't report about end-users, just what SFS
as a whole is doing...  Similar to Q FILEPOOL STATUS

2008/6/10 Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 It looks like Audit is a security audit, not an activity monitor. For
 example, it will tell me how many times I have been allowed access to a
 file space for which I am not explicitly authorized.

 Regards,
 Richard Schuh



 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens
 Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:25 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: SFS Control Data Backup

 I meant you could see agents more active than usual...  To know it
 all: turn on Auditing (disruptive change)

 2008/6/10 Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  That shows the current agents, their agent numbers and the type of
  wait they are in. What it does not show is the level of
 activity that
  the individual agents are responsible for. At any given
 time, we will
  have from 10 to 100 or more agents in the list.
 
  Regards,
  Richard Schuh
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:13 AM
  To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
  Subject: Re: SFS Control Data Backup
 
  Maybe Q FILEPOOL AGENT
 
  2008/6/10 Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   Next question. Yesterday and again today, we seem to be
 taking an
   abnormally high number of control data backups. How do I
  determine the
   cause of this unusual activity?
  
   Regards,
   Richard Schuh
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Farrell
   Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:31 AM
   To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
   Subject: Re: SFS Control Data Backup
  
   No, there isn't a way to specify the threshold.  It will start
   automatically when the log is 80% full.
  
   You could probably write some kind of tool to use the
  output of QUERY
   FILEPOOL LOG to detect a threshold and send a BACKUP
  request to the
   file =
  
   pool server machine.
  
   Sue Farrell
  
  
 
 
 
  --
  Kris Buelens,
  IBM Belgium, VM customer support
 
 



 --
 Kris Buelens,
 IBM Belgium, VM customer support





-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: SFS Control Data Backup

2008-06-10 Thread Schuh, Richard
It sure would be nice to know who is hammering the server. It is tough
to correct a problem when it can't be defined. 

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens
 Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:10 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: SFS Control Data Backup
 
 The SFS performance stats don't report about end-users, just 
 what SFS as a whole is doing...  Similar to Q FILEPOOL STATUS
 
 2008/6/10 Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  It looks like Audit is a security audit, not an activity 
 monitor. For 
  example, it will tell me how many times I have been allowed 
 access to 
  a file space for which I am not explicitly authorized.
 
  Regards,
  Richard Schuh
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:25 PM
  To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
  Subject: Re: SFS Control Data Backup
 
  I meant you could see agents more active than usual...  To know it
  all: turn on Auditing (disruptive change)
 
  2008/6/10 Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   That shows the current agents, their agent numbers and 
 the type of 
   wait they are in. What it does not show is the level of
  activity that
   the individual agents are responsible for. At any given
  time, we will
   have from 10 to 100 or more agents in the list.
  
   Regards,
   Richard Schuh
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens
   Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:13 AM
   To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
   Subject: Re: SFS Control Data Backup
  
   Maybe Q FILEPOOL AGENT
  
   2008/6/10 Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Next question. Yesterday and again today, we seem to be
  taking an
abnormally high number of control data backups. How do I
   determine the
cause of this unusual activity?
   
Regards,
Richard Schuh
   
   
   
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Farrell
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:31 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: SFS Control Data Backup
   
No, there isn't a way to specify the threshold.  It 
 will start 
automatically when the log is 80% full.
   
You could probably write some kind of tool to use the
   output of QUERY
FILEPOOL LOG to detect a threshold and send a BACKUP
   request to the
file =
   
pool server machine.
   
Sue Farrell
   
   
  
  
  
   --
   Kris Buelens,
   IBM Belgium, VM customer support
  
  
 
 
 
  --
  Kris Buelens,
  IBM Belgium, VM customer support
 
 
 
 
 
 --
 Kris Buelens,
 IBM Belgium, VM customer support
 


Re: SFS Control Data Backup

2008-06-10 Thread Alan Ackerman
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:17:39 -0700, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot
e:

It sure would be nice to know who is hammering the server. It is tough
to correct a problem when it can't be defined. 

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

There is some IUCV data in the monitor.  I don't have access to http://w
ww.vm.ibm.com/ (down?) 
nor Velocity Software manuals from home.  There is a QUERY IUCV command i
n z/VM 5.3.0, but it 
does not include message counts. QIUCV EXEC floating around does have som
e such data -- but I'm 
not sure to what level of detail.

Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com 


SFS Control Data Backup

2008-06-09 Thread Schuh, Richard
Is there a way to change the threshold for initiation of a CDB
dynamically or is it only in the start-up? Searching the File Pool
Planning, Administration and Operation manual has so far turned up a
blank.

Regards, 
Richard Schuh