Re: TPF and PAX numbers
Rob van der Heij wrote: I recall someone telling at SHARE that the list of forbidden 6-char PNRs was extended on a regular basis, and that these changes made good conversation at lunch to determine who would find them offensive for what reason... ;-) In NL there were similar concerns when our car license plate scheme went to 00-XXX-0 (for the curious foreigners, some English 4-letter words take just 3 in Dutch). For starters, we dropped the vowels. Then dropped the offensive words that look like someone just dropped the vowels out of it. And dropped the abbreviations for offensive sayings, and company names, etc... No surprise we run out of this name space pretty quick. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_the_Netherlands I've seen at least one Virginia tag that shouldn't have passed muster (won't share it on the list). And I've always wondered about CA PMFIDs, which are the first 3 letters of your last name/first 2 of your first name/2-digit number. What would they do if your name was Kyle Fuchs? Or Tyrone Shiplett? ...phsiii
Re: TPF and PAX numbers
Many years ago I was working for a company acquired by CA. Once we were assigned our new user ids they soon became nicknames for many. Some were funny. One poor guy was BRIDE. I became THITO. Anyway, one person was automatically assigned a 'non-standard' name because his 'standard' userid was offensive. I can't remember the exact way they generated the id. Tony Thigpen -Original Message - From: Phil Smith III Sent: 07/14/2011 08:25 AM Rob van der Heij wrote: I recall someone telling at SHARE that the list of forbidden 6-char PNRs was extended on a regular basis, and that these changes made good conversation at lunch to determine who would find them offensive for what reason... ;-) In NL there were similar concerns when our car license plate scheme went to 00-XXX-0 (for the curious foreigners, some English 4-letter words take just 3 in Dutch). For starters, we dropped the vowels. Then dropped the offensive words that look like someone just dropped the vowels out of it. And dropped the abbreviations for offensive sayings, and company names, etc... No surprise we run out of this name space pretty quick. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_the_Netherlands I've seen at least one Virginia tag that shouldn't have passed muster (won't share it on the list). And I've always wondered about CA PMFIDs, which are the first 3 letters of your last name/first 2 of your first name/2-digit number. What would they do if your name was Kyle Fuchs? Or Tyrone Shiplett? ...phsiii
Re: TPF and PAX numbers
When I was an airline reservations sales agent, There was an internal eight character record locator and a functional entry HAD, which returned the six character PNR number. The six character was exchanged between airlines when there was interline itineraries, given to customers as needed and agencies always referred to them. Someone told me, that the eight character pointed directly to a module, cyl, track and head (in some combination of xx xx xx xx), but by the mid-70's I don't think that was true anymore. We had several HAD entries which would generate 'cute' 6 character responses.. the coding of which changed around '78 or so. -- Gregg Reed No Plan, survives execution
Re: TPF and PAX numbers
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Gregg reed.gr...@gmail.com wrote: entries which would generate 'cute' 6 character responses.. I recall someone telling at SHARE that the list of forbidden 6-char PNRs was extended on a regular basis, and that these changes made good conversation at lunch to determine who would find them offensive for what reason... ;-) In NL there were similar concerns when our car license plate scheme went to 00-XXX-0 (for the curious foreigners, some English 4-letter words take just 3 in Dutch). For starters, we dropped the vowels. Then dropped the offensive words that look like someone just dropped the vowels out of it. And dropped the abbreviations for offensive sayings, and company names, etc... No surprise we run out of this name space pretty quick. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_the_Netherlands Rob
Re: TPF and PAX numbers
We has a similar problem with student ids at the local school public district. Each student was assigned the next 4 character string starting with and ending with (, AAAB, AAAC,...). While I was there, we actually rolled over back to . Over the years, the exclusion list had been built by printing off the next group (when they were needed) and letting all the programmers mark any words they thought was 'offensive'. Of course, many were missed, but parents let us know. :-) There were about 60,000 students each year, but each kid kept his id 'forever'. It took many years to 'roll over', but when it did, everybody thought we did not need to review the id's anymore since we had caught all the bad ones. Not ture! The language had changed and there were a lot of new bad 4 letter words. As a side note, our cafeteria used 3 digit numbers unique to each school. One of my children was 666 as long as she was in grades k-5. I always wondered if any of the cafeteria workers ever called her the 'devil girl'? :-) Tony Thigpen -Original Message - From: Rob van der Heij Sent: 07/13/2011 04:15 AM On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Greggreed.gr...@gmail.com wrote: entries which would generate 'cute' 6 character responses.. I recall someone telling at SHARE that the list of forbidden 6-char PNRs was extended on a regular basis, and that these changes made good conversation at lunch to determine who would find them offensive for what reason... ;-) In NL there were similar concerns when our car license plate scheme went to 00-XXX-0 (for the curious foreigners, some English 4-letter words take just 3 in Dutch). For starters, we dropped the vowels. Then dropped the offensive words that look like someone just dropped the vowels out of it. And dropped the abbreviations for offensive sayings, and company names, etc... No surprise we run out of this name space pretty quick. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_the_Netherlands Rob
TPF and PAX numbers
A long, long time ago ( 20 years), someone told me that the six-character PAX number on an airline reservation was actually a TPF database record locator. Can anyone confirm or deny this? .phsiii
Re: TPF and PAX numbers
It definitely was at one point. That's why travel agents call it a record locator. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 12:46 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: TPF and PAX numbers A long, long time ago ( 20 years), someone told me that the six-character PAX number on an airline reservation was actually a TPF database record locator. Can anyone confirm or deny this? ...phsiii
Re: TPF and PAX numbers
Phil, I'm not familiar with the term PAX number, but for at least 20 years, United Airlines has referred to its six character (alpha-numeric) reservation identifier interchangeably as a reservation number or a record locator. I don't know whether that's an actual TPF record or just a term of convenience. .Marty Sent from myTouch 4G - Reply message - From: Phil Smith III li...@akphs.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: TPF and PAX numbers Date: Mon, Jul 11, 2011 12:46 pm A long, long time ago ( 20 years), someone told me that the six-character PAX number on an airline reservation was actually a TPF database record locator. Can anyone confirm or deny this? …phsiii
Re: TPF and PAX numbers
As far as I remember it's always been known as a 'record locator'. And as far as I remember on TPF it is the 'record locator'. But .. my memory maybe questionable! From: martin.zime...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 5:58 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: TPF and PAX numbers Phil, I'm not familiar with the term PAX number, but for at least 20 years, United Airlines has referred to its six character (alpha-numeric) reservation identifier interchangeably as a reservation number or a record locator. I don't know whether that's an actual TPF record or just a term of convenience. . Marty Sent from myTouch 4G - Reply message - From: Phil Smith III li...@akphs.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: TPF and PAX numbers Date: Mon, Jul 11, 2011 12:46 pm A long, long time ago ( 20 years), someone told me that the six-character PAX number on an airline reservation was actually a TPF database record locator. Can anyone confirm or deny this? …phsiii
Re: TPF and PAX numbers
Going back to my Republic Airlines days (30 years) the ACP/TPF system called these records PNR's for Passenger Name Records. When we deployed TPF at BofA to handle ATM transactions (mid 80s'), a more generic term, Record locator was eventually used. These records used to be written to tape once a flight had flown/transaction expired, then it would go into a batch (MVS/zOS) process to recoup these used records and make them available again. Mike Brocade From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:46 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: TPF and PAX numbers A long, long time ago ( 20 years), someone told me that the six-character PAX number on an airline reservation was actually a TPF database record locator. Can anyone confirm or deny this? ...phsiii
