VLAN, VSWITCH, HiperSockets

2009-10-29 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
I'd like to move all of our internal communications internally.
Basically this consists of TCP/IP for z/VM and several z/VSEs.  This
includes PNET between z/VSEs.  

What would you recommend?  I'm leaning toward HiperSockets.

Pros Cons?

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer   MCP, MCP+I, MCSE  RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co.   Phone: (254)761-6649
1200 Wooded Acres Dr.Fax:   (254)741-5777
Waco, Texas  76710


 



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Re: VLAN, VSWITCH, HiperSockets

2009-10-29 Thread Scott Rohling
If the VSE's are guests on zVM - use VSWITCH.   If they are LPARs -- then
either hipersockets or maybe a shared OSA port (which can be uncabled)..


Scott

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Frank M. Ramaekers
framaek...@ailife.comwrote:

 I'd like to move all of our internal communications internally.
 Basically this consists of TCP/IP for z/VM and several z/VSEs.  This
 includes PNET between z/VSEs.

 What would you recommend?  I'm leaning toward HiperSockets.

 Pros Cons?

 Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
 Systems Programmer   MCP, MCP+I, MCSE  RHCE
 American Income Life Insurance Co.   Phone: (254)761-6649
 1200 Wooded Acres Dr.Fax:   (254)741-5777
 Waco, Texas  76710






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Re: VLAN, VSWITCH, HiperSockets

2009-10-29 Thread Rich Smrcina
If the VSE's are running in the same z/VM system then use the VSWITCH.  
If they are not, but in the same CEC, use hipersockets.


Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:

I'd like to move all of our internal communications internally.
Basically this consists of TCP/IP for z/VM and several z/VSEs.  This
includes PNET between z/VSEs.  


What would you recommend?  I'm leaning toward HiperSockets.

Pros Cons?

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer   MCP, MCP+I, MCSE  RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co.   Phone: (254)761-6649
1200 Wooded Acres Dr.Fax:   (254)741-5777
Waco, Texas  76710

  



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Re: VLAN, VSWITCH, HiperSockets

2009-10-29 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
ETHERNET or IP?  Advantages/disadvantages?

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer   MCP, MCP+I, MCSE  RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co.   Phone: (254)761-6649
1200 Wooded Acres Dr.Fax:   (254)741-5777
Waco, Texas  76710


 


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If the VSE's are running in the same z/VM system then use the VSWITCH.  
If they are not, but in the same CEC, use hipersockets.

Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:
 I'd like to move all of our internal communications internally.
 Basically this consists of TCP/IP for z/VM and several z/VSEs.  This
 includes PNET between z/VSEs.  

 What would you recommend?  I'm leaning toward HiperSockets.

 Pros Cons?

 Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
 Systems Programmer   MCP, MCP+I, MCSE  RHCE
 American Income Life Insurance Co.   Phone: (254)761-6649
 1200 Wooded Acres Dr.Fax:   (254)741-5777
 Waco, Texas  76710

   


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Re: VLAN, VSWITCH, HiperSockets

2009-10-29 Thread David Boyes
If they're VM guests, use VSWITCHes. Only use hipersockets if you have to
cross LPARs. Hipersockets are a giant PITA to define and maintain.


On 10/29/09 4:31 PM, Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.com wrote:

 I'd like to move all of our internal communications internally.
 Basically this consists of TCP/IP for z/VM and several z/VSEs.  This
 includes PNET between z/VSEs.
 
 What would you recommend?  I'm leaning toward HiperSockets.


Re: VLAN, VSWITCH, HiperSockets

2009-10-29 Thread David Boyes
On 10/29/09 7:45 PM, Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.com wrote:

 ETHERNET or IP?  Advantages/disadvantages?

For Linux, I tend to use ETHERNET, since they're likely to actually do more
than IPv4. For others, or for backlevel systems that can't do layer 2, use
IP. 

The ethernet ones tend to use a little more CPU since the ARP processing has
to be done in each virtual machine vs having it suppressed in the IP type
VSWITCH. If you do (or plan to do) IPv6, then you're going to want the layer
2 stuff. 


Re: VLAN, VSWITCH, HiperSockets

2009-10-29 Thread Rich Smrcina

I can find no indication that z/VSE supports ETHERNET (layer 2) mode yet.

Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:

ETHERNET or IP?  Advantages/disadvantages?

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer   MCP, MCP+I, MCSE  RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co.   Phone: (254)761-6649
1200 Wooded Acres Dr.Fax:   (254)741-5777
Waco, Texas  76710
  


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