Re: XML on VM
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:05:09 -0600 Tom Duerbusch said: >Hooold on thereWait a gosh darn minute... >There is a PIPE stage that can process a XML document!! >This is as good a free beer, without the morning after . >I installed XMLPARSE and tried a sample XML document with the results piped to >the console. That looks like what I really wanted. Thanks. >It doesn't look like I can use LPR to send the XML document to my reader >queue. I keep getting truncated at 80 bytes. I can FTP the file >without any problems, but I sure liked the WAKEUP (RDR as the method to drive >the server. Look at using a LPR PUNCH queue instead of a PRINTER queue. See http://listserv.uark.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind0205&L=VMESA-L&P=R18532 /ahw >A pipe stage for a XML document. What a country! >Tom Duerbusch >THD Consulting "A. Harry Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/18/2008 11:21 PM >>> >On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:49:14 -0600 Tom Duerbusch said: >>Came back from a meeting and my brain hurts >>We are forcing the integration of VSE into a new Identity Manager (IDM) >>system. >>Currently we manage security for VSE via a bunch of REXX execs up in CMS. >>With a bunch of VSE systems, this was a good place to keep stuff >that >>may need to be sent down to one or more VSE systems. So far, it works. >>We have been told that the IDM system can only output XML documents. I can >>write some REXX code to read/process the XML file, and find the >>items >>of interest, but this may be the time to see if we can start playing in the >>XML world. >>Is there anything in the z/VM 5.X world, that we can use to process a XML >>file? >>Right now, I'm just thinking that they will LPR the file to a CMS service >>machine, which will wake up and process it. >>Perhaps there are options that will connect to the XML port on the IP stack, >>and do everything really nifty . >>I will also be looking for VSE and zLinux options in other emails. I'm only >>looking for VM responses in this email. >There is XMLPARSE on the VM download page. It's a pipeline filter that >creates a Rexx structure from a well formed XML document. I've experimented >with it but never used it for anything significant. >http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?XMLPARSE >http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/xmlparse.vmarc >>Thanks >>Tom Duerbusch >>THD Consulting
Re: XML on VM
Just never thought of it. LPR is just a single command with parms. FTP is more complex as you need a method of inputting multiple lines. That process seems to be platform dependant. I've reconfigured TCPIP to be able to use the .rdr option. Yep, it works and I don't get truncated records in the rdr queud. Thanks Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting >>> Fran Hensler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/19/2008 11:40 AM >>> Tom - Why don't you ftp to the .rdr ? I do this all the time and I use WAKEUP to process the file. /Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 45 years mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://zvm.sru.edu/~fjh +1.724.738.2153 "Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock" -- On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:05:09 -0600 Tom Duerbusch said: >It doesn't look like I can use LPR to send the XML document to my reader >queue. I keep getting truncated at 80 bytes. I can FTP the file without any >problems, but I >sure liked the WAKEUP (RDR as the method to drive the server.
Re: XML on VM
> The from platform is WIN/XP. Not a problem if you can specify the command used to print the file. We have NJE for Windows.
Re: XML on VM
The from platform is WIN/XP. My initial view, was to have the process do a LPR to send the file to IDMADMIN reader queue in VM. And use WAKEUP (RDR to trigger processing. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting >>> Kris Buelens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/19/2008 11:28 AM >>> What's wrong with SENDFILE (or NETDATA) to send the XML document to the reader of a WAKEUP based server? 2008/11/19 Tom Duerbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hooold on thereWait a gosh darn minute... > There is a PIPE stage that can process a XML document!! > > This is as good a free beer, without the morning after . > > I installed XMLPARSE and tried a sample XML document with the results piped > to the console. That looks like what I really wanted. Thanks. > > It doesn't look like I can use LPR to send the XML document to my reader > queue. I keep getting truncated at 80 bytes. I can FTP the file without any > problems, but I sure liked the WAKEUP (RDR as the method to drive the server. > > A pipe stage for a XML document. What a country! > > Tom Duerbusch > THD Consulting > "A. Harry Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/18/2008 11:21 PM >>> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:49:14 -0600 Tom Duerbusch said: >>Came back from a meeting and my brain hurts >>We are forcing the integration of VSE into a new Identity Manager (IDM) >>system. >>Currently we manage security for VSE via a bunch of REXX execs up in CMS. >>With a bunch of VSE systems, this was a good place to keep stuff that >>may need to be sent down to one or more VSE systems. So far, it works. >>We have been told that the IDM system can only output XML documents. I can >>write some REXX code to read/process the XML file, and find the >>items >>of interest, but this may be the time to see if we can start playing in the >>XML world. >>Is there anything in the z/VM 5.X world, that we can use to process a XML >>file? >>Right now, I'm just thinking that they will LPR the file to a CMS service >>machine, which will wake up and process it. >>Perhaps there are options that will connect to the XML port on the IP stack, >>and do everything really nifty . >>I will also be looking for VSE and zLinux options in other emails. I'm only >>looking for VM responses in this email. > There is XMLPARSE on the VM download page. It's a pipeline filter that > creates a Rexx structure from a well formed XML document. I've experimented > with it but never used it for anything significant. > > http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?XMLPARSE > > http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/xmlparse.vmarc > >>Thanks >>Tom Duerbusch >>THD Consulting > -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: XML on VM
If you are not already paying the full license fee for RSCS, you'll need to speak with your IBM marketeers before enabling RSCS' NJE capabilities for production work (maybe even for test?). Proper license management is always the responsibility of the admin. There are also alternatives that don't require a RSCS license.
Re: XML on VM
RED NEON WARNING! If you are not already paying the full license fee for RSCS, you'll need to speak with your IBM marketeers before enabling RSCS' NJE capabilities for production work (maybe even for test?). Only the LPR print daemons are free. Any use of NJE requires the full license. At least that's my understanding. You marketing reps are the best source. I sure do with that there were some clear warnings about the costs and requirements in the sample "SYSTEM CONFIG" where the sample ENABLE statement for RSCS is commented out. Related: the SDO Enable Aid. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. "David Boyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 11/19/2008 11:29 AM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: XML on VM > It doesn't look like I can use LPR to send the XML document to my reader > queue. I keep getting truncated at 80 bytes. I can FTP the file without > any problems, but I sure liked the WAKEUP (RDR as the method to drive the > server. Enable NJE in RSCS and use that instead. The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
Re: XML on VM
Tom - Why don't you ftp to the .rdr ? I do this all the time and I use WAKEUP to process the file. /Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 45 years mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://zvm.sru.edu/~fjh +1.724.738.2153 "Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock" -- On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:05:09 -0600 Tom Duerbusch said: >It doesn't look like I can use LPR to send the XML document to my reader >queue. I keep getting truncated at 80 bytes. I can FTP the file without any >problems, but I >sure liked the WAKEUP (RDR as the method to drive the server.
Re: XML on VM
I see, the XL comes from the outside. So what about FTP to the RDR of a server. VM's FTP supports RDR as target (I don't know the prereqs by heart). 2008/11/19 David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> It doesn't look like I can use LPR to send the XML document to my > reader >> queue. I keep getting truncated at 80 bytes. I can FTP the file > without >> any problems, but I sure liked the WAKEUP (RDR as the method to drive > the >> server. > > Enable NJE in RSCS and use that instead. > -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: XML on VM
> It doesn't look like I can use LPR to send the XML document to my reader > queue. I keep getting truncated at 80 bytes. I can FTP the file without > any problems, but I sure liked the WAKEUP (RDR as the method to drive the > server. Enable NJE in RSCS and use that instead.
Re: XML on VM
What's wrong with SENDFILE (or NETDATA) to send the XML document to the reader of a WAKEUP based server? 2008/11/19 Tom Duerbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hooold on thereWait a gosh darn minute... > There is a PIPE stage that can process a XML document!! > > This is as good a free beer, without the morning after . > > I installed XMLPARSE and tried a sample XML document with the results piped > to the console. That looks like what I really wanted. Thanks. > > It doesn't look like I can use LPR to send the XML document to my reader > queue. I keep getting truncated at 80 bytes. I can FTP the file without any > problems, but I sure liked the WAKEUP (RDR as the method to drive the server. > > A pipe stage for a XML document. What a country! > > Tom Duerbusch > THD Consulting > "A. Harry Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/18/2008 11:21 PM >>> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:49:14 -0600 Tom Duerbusch said: >>Came back from a meeting and my brain hurts >>We are forcing the integration of VSE into a new Identity Manager (IDM) >>system. >>Currently we manage security for VSE via a bunch of REXX execs up in CMS. >>With a bunch of VSE systems, this was a good place to keep stuff that >>may need to be sent down to one or more VSE systems. So far, it works. >>We have been told that the IDM system can only output XML documents. I can >>write some REXX code to read/process the XML file, and find the >>items >>of interest, but this may be the time to see if we can start playing in the >>XML world. >>Is there anything in the z/VM 5.X world, that we can use to process a XML >>file? >>Right now, I'm just thinking that they will LPR the file to a CMS service >>machine, which will wake up and process it. >>Perhaps there are options that will connect to the XML port on the IP stack, >>and do everything really nifty . >>I will also be looking for VSE and zLinux options in other emails. I'm only >>looking for VM responses in this email. > There is XMLPARSE on the VM download page. It's a pipeline filter that > creates a Rexx structure from a well formed XML document. I've experimented > with it but never used it for anything significant. > > http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?XMLPARSE > > http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/xmlparse.vmarc > >>Thanks >>Tom Duerbusch >>THD Consulting > -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: XML on VM
Hooold on thereWait a gosh darn minute... There is a PIPE stage that can process a XML document!! This is as good a free beer, without the morning after . I installed XMLPARSE and tried a sample XML document with the results piped to the console. That looks like what I really wanted. Thanks. It doesn't look like I can use LPR to send the XML document to my reader queue. I keep getting truncated at 80 bytes. I can FTP the file without any problems, but I sure liked the WAKEUP (RDR as the method to drive the server. A pipe stage for a XML document. What a country! Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting >>> "A. Harry Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/18/2008 11:21 PM >>> On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:49:14 -0600 Tom Duerbusch said: >Came back from a meeting and my brain hurts >We are forcing the integration of VSE into a new Identity Manager (IDM) system. >Currently we manage security for VSE via a bunch of REXX execs up in CMS. >With a bunch of VSE systems, this was a good place to keep stuff that >may need to be sent down to one or more VSE systems. So far, it works. >We have been told that the IDM system can only output XML documents. I can >write some REXX code to read/process the XML file, and find the >items >of interest, but this may be the time to see if we can start playing in the >XML world. >Is there anything in the z/VM 5.X world, that we can use to process a XML file? >Right now, I'm just thinking that they will LPR the file to a CMS service >machine, which will wake up and process it. >Perhaps there are options that will connect to the XML port on the IP stack, >and do everything really nifty . >I will also be looking for VSE and zLinux options in other emails. I'm only >looking for VM responses in this email. There is XMLPARSE on the VM download page. It's a pipeline filter that creates a Rexx structure from a well formed XML document. I've experimented with it but never used it for anything significant. http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?XMLPARSE http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/xmlparse.vmarc >Thanks >Tom Duerbusch >THD Consulting
Re: XML on VM
Hi, Tom. There are a couple of good packages available that should be of some interest to you. The first one is the XMLPARSE package by Jonathan Scott (IBM Hursley, UK) that reads an XML document and converts it to a tree structure stored in a REXX stem. The tree structure can then be navigated either sequentially or by looking up specific tag or attribute names. It is available off of the IBM VM download web page: http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/xmlparse.vmarc The second package is PARSEXML by Andrew J. Armstrong. It's a bit of Rexx code you append to your Rexx exec and it then parses xml files into in-memory model and your Rexx code then accesses the model via a DOM-like API. It was developed for use in the TSO world, but it has also been used successfully on Linux with Regina Rexx, so I suspect that getting it to work in CMS would be a SMOP..:-) You can find it on the CBT tape collection here: http://www.cbttape.org/ftp/updates/CBT647.zip Hope this helps, and good luck. Tom Duerbusch wrote: Came back from a meeting and my brain hurts We are forcing the integration of VSE into a new Identity Manager (IDM) system. Currently we manage security for VSE via a bunch of REXX execs up in CMS. With a bunch of VSE systems, this was a good place to keep stuff that may need to be sent down to one or more VSE systems. So far, it works. We have been told that the IDM system can only output XML documents. I can write some REXX code to read/process the XML file, and find the items of interest, but this may be the time to see if we can start playing in the XML world. Is there anything in the z/VM 5.X world, that we can use to process a XML file? Right now, I'm just thinking that they will LPR the file to a CMS service machine, which will wake up and process it. Perhaps there are options that will connect to the XML port on the IP stack, and do everything really nifty . I will also be looking for VSE and zLinux options in other emails. I'm only looking for VM responses in this email. Thanks Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com
Re: XML on VM
> There is XMLPARSE on the VM download page. It's a pipeline filter that > creates a Rexx structure from a well formed XML document. I've > experimented > with it but never used it for anything significant. > http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?XMLPARSE > http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/xmlparse.vmarc I was going to suggest this as well. It's actually pretty good, but do be prepared for a fair amount of CPU usage. It does a nice job of creating a usable REXX structure. -- db
Re: XML on VM
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:49:14 -0600 Tom Duerbusch said: >Came back from a meeting and my brain hurts >We are forcing the integration of VSE into a new Identity Manager (IDM) system. >Currently we manage security for VSE via a bunch of REXX execs up in CMS. >With a bunch of VSE systems, this was a good place to keep stuff that >may need to be sent down to one or more VSE systems. So far, it works. >We have been told that the IDM system can only output XML documents. I can >write some REXX code to read/process the XML file, and find the >items >of interest, but this may be the time to see if we can start playing in the >XML world. >Is there anything in the z/VM 5.X world, that we can use to process a XML file? >Right now, I'm just thinking that they will LPR the file to a CMS service >machine, which will wake up and process it. >Perhaps there are options that will connect to the XML port on the IP stack, >and do everything really nifty . >I will also be looking for VSE and zLinux options in other emails. I'm only >looking for VM responses in this email. There is XMLPARSE on the VM download page. It's a pipeline filter that creates a Rexx structure from a well formed XML document. I've experimented with it but never used it for anything significant. http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?XMLPARSE http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/xmlparse.vmarc >Thanks >Tom Duerbusch >THD Consulting
Re: XML on VM
There is such a thing, I played with it about a year or two ago, I don't remember too much about it.. It was maybe a XML parser in WEBSHARE ... I'll look at my notes to see if I wrote anything down about it.. If i find anything further I'll let you know. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Duerbusch Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 3:49 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: XML on VM Came back from a meeting and my brain hurts We are forcing the integration of VSE into a new Identity Manager (IDM) system. Currently we manage security for VSE via a bunch of REXX execs up in CMS. With a bunch of VSE systems, this was a good place to keep stuff that may need to be sent down to one or more VSE systems. So far, it works. We have been told that the IDM system can only output XML documents. I can write some REXX code to read/process the XML file, and find the items of interest, but this may be the time to see if we can start playing in the XML world. Is there anything in the z/VM 5.X world, that we can use to process a XML file? Right now, I'm just thinking that they will LPR the file to a CMS service machine, which will wake up and process it. Perhaps there are options that will connect to the XML port on the IP stack, and do everything really nifty . I will also be looking for VSE and zLinux options in other emails. I'm only looking for VM responses in this email. Thanks Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting
XML on VM
Came back from a meeting and my brain hurts We are forcing the integration of VSE into a new Identity Manager (IDM) system. Currently we manage security for VSE via a bunch of REXX execs up in CMS. With a bunch of VSE systems, this was a good place to keep stuff that may need to be sent down to one or more VSE systems. So far, it works. We have been told that the IDM system can only output XML documents. I can write some REXX code to read/process the XML file, and find the items of interest, but this may be the time to see if we can start playing in the XML world. Is there anything in the z/VM 5.X world, that we can use to process a XML file? Right now, I'm just thinking that they will LPR the file to a CMS service machine, which will wake up and process it. Perhaps there are options that will connect to the XML port on the IP stack, and do everything really nifty . I will also be looking for VSE and zLinux options in other emails. I'm only looking for VM responses in this email. Thanks Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting
