Re: [IceHorses] Is This Tight?
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:59:11 -0700, you wrote: I wonder if there are some that were withheld from being posted. Yes, plenty - the crap ones where the camera ran out of light, the rider was gurning etc. I'm pleased to say there were very few bad riding photos. I would ask what specific problem you see with the saddles in the photos of the British riders, seeing as 2 were using floating panel Trapezius saddles and one was in a treeless? (not sure about the others). Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes
Re: [IceHorses] Is This Tight?
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:15:47 -0600, you wrote: Oh come on! Sting has way more hair! g Yeah, but Sting isn't 61 like Smari! Funny coincidence - Smari is the guy who sold an Icelandic horse to Sting several years ago. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes
RE: [IceHorses] Is This Tight?
Funny coincidence - Smari is the guy who sold an Icelandic horse to Sting several years ago. You're so vain...You probably think this seller looks like you... Oh wait. Carly supposedly wrote that song about Mick Jagger, right? :) Karen Thomas, NC
RE: [IceHorses] Is This Tight?
Here's a pretty typical World Championship victory pose: http://www.ihsgb.co.uk/winners.jpg The first time I saw a posed picture over-bent like that, probably five years ago, I asked, and was assured that it was only a bad moment in time - an instant where 2-3 stallions were misbehaving and the riders grabbed them back for a photo op. This has been classic victory pose that I've seen at every single World Championship since I've been watching the results.I rarely see that position posed in a victory picture even among the highest-level competitive dressage riders who use Rollkur, like Anky. They may train in that controversial over-bent position that I really don't like, but at least they usually try to drop the rein contact the instant as the competition is over... Anyway, that's why I felt so obligated to ask about the Icelandic showing dressage pictures that Judy submitted recently. Sure, that was an individual rider, who appeared to be showing at a very low level. There's no reason for holding the horses so tight like that, whatever the discipline, whatever the country, no matter what the level. I saw several pictures of horses moving out in that overbent pose in WC pictures submitted by others. I don't know how to make that correlation clearly, without risking hurting someone's feelings. But, I think it's important to draw the correlation, so we can draw attention to the practice at every single level. I certainly don't mean to pick on an amateur rider, but I see a trend that needs to be noted and stopped. Granted, the British team looks better than most of the pack - thanks very much - but as you commented yourself, Mic, they didn't score well at all. Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] Is This Tight?
On 23/08/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Granted, the British team looks better than most of the pack - thanks very much - but as you commented yourself, Mic, they didn't score well at all. They didn't score well? That's too bad. They looked VERY good. I know a few people around here that would be having fits about the other riding photos. Wanda
RE: [IceHorses] Is This Tight?
Funny coincidence - Smari is the guy who sold an Icelandic horse to Sting several years ago. You're so vain...You probably think this seller looks like you... Oh wait. Carly supposedly wrote that song about Mick Jagger, right? :) One other question about the horse he sold to Sting. It wouldn't have been a silver dapple or chestnut/flaxen, would it? That would just be too funny, if the horse also looks like them! Cary always kids me about Melnir having what he calls that 1980's rock-star look about him. :) Karen Thomas, NC
[IceHorses] clipping - blade size
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Re: [IceHorses] Is This Tight?
On 8/23/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Granted, the British team looks better than most of the pack - thanks very much - but as you commented yourself, Mic, they didn't score well at all. which is a buncha bull really. its like getting penalized for being good. janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Is This Tight?
On 8/23/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny coincidence - Smari is the guy who sold an Icelandic horse to Sting several years ago. You're so vain...You probably think this seller looks like you... Oh wait. Carly supposedly wrote that song about Mick Jagger, right? :) no it was James Taylor. and he wrote a song about her too. He had that album Sweet baby James Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Is This Tight?
One other question about the horse he sold to Sting. It wouldn't have been a silver dapple or chestnut/flaxen, would it? That would just be too funny, if the horse also looks like them! Cary always kids me about Melnir having what he calls that 1980's rock-star look about him. :) Karen Thomas, NC I know someone with the most adorable two year old walking horse. he's sorrel/flaxen and his mane and tail are absolutely yellow and his forelock is sorta short and looks almost like bangs and they named him Butters after the little blonde kid on southpark. haha. He looks just like butters... janice-- yipie tie yie yo
RE: [IceHorses] Betty
We are Betty. We are the (mostly) mature first-time horse-buying women, the ones who are fulfilling our childhood dreams of owning and riding a horse / pony. I consider myself very much a typical Betty in the USA horse-world sense, but PLEASE don't tell Cary I'd also consider him one! I see a lot of Betty's at a typical event like one of the Parelli weekend seminars, or the recent Lynn Palm/Jane Savoie event - sometimes by the hundreds or even thousands. The Betty's (and Billy's) may have different breed ideals, and may have different preconceptions about western-versus-English tack, but what I see in common with so many US horse-people is the desire to have a relationship with a mannerly, safe, pleasant riding PARTNER that won't kill them and will keep them active and out enjoying nature. I see Betty's much like me in all ages, from pre-teens to the elderly (hard to think of Susan's mom as elderly though!) and I see male Billy's and female Betty's. I also see Betty's much like myself who are totally new to horses, as well as those who've owned horses more than my 19 years. I'd have to say the one area of the USA horse market that I've touched that I feel the least like a typical Betty would be in the USA's traditional Icelandic clique. I can fit into a lot of different horse cliques, but sometimes I feel like I don't have the secret decoder ring to fit in with that crowd. (I've never gotten into any breed crowds before though.) Thank gosh for this list...of Betty's! Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [IceHorses] Is This Tight?
no it was James Taylor. and he wrote a song about her too. He had that album Sweet baby James H, go check your timeline. I THINK she wrote that song after Mick, but before James Taylor, and at least before she and James got divorced. James Taylor was pretty big when I was in high school, and he's from NC. My favorite of his songs is the one where he sings about Karen from Carolina...:) - ok, I'M so vain! Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] Betty
On 8/22/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are Betty. We are the (mostly) mature first-time horse-buying women, the ones who are fulfilling our childhood dreams of owning and riding a horse / pony. Thank gosh for this list...of Betty's! Funny! Let's all sign our name Betty from now on! g Betty S.
Re: [IceHorses] Is This Tight?
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 09:26:16 -0400, you wrote: a silver dapple or chestnut/flaxen, would it? A dapple grey. Actually, it's the horse on Sting's album 10 Summoner's Tales. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes
Re: [IceHorses] Betty
There is actually a club (non-horsey) in the Rogue Valley called the The Bettys. Betty Sturm
Re: [IceHorses] Is This Tight?
You're so vain...You probably think this seller looks like you... Oh wait. Carly supposedly wrote that song about Mick Jagger, right? :) Really?! I didn't know she dated Mick Jagger. Well, it fits, I guess. And Sting is into Icelandic horses...well I'll be... I knew Chevy Chase has a couple. Any one else famous (by popular definition) who has Icelandics, that anyone knows about? Robyn S
[IceHorses] 2005 Gaited Horse Show, Puyallup
Cute Ice ponies at horse show http://tinyurl.com/2l75ul -- Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
[IceHorses] WAY off topic
Here you go, Janice. Carly won't confirm who was so vain, only that it wasn't James Taylor...although she hints it might have been Warren Beatty, not Mick Jagger. http://www.carlysimon.com/vain/vain.html Gee, what a laundry list of suspects... :) Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] Is This Tight?
I would ask what specific problem you see with the saddles in the photos of the British riders, seeing as 2 were using floating panel Trapezius saddles and one was in a treeless? (not sure about the others). My point was not specifically about British riders. Point being that it's hard to pick out good pictures when there's so many things going on such as the tight saddles, nosebands, bits, shoes, boots, whips, contact, rider's seat, etc. Say there's a picture such as loose rein tolt. It's great that the horse is tolting without the contact. But we have to remember that he may still be negatively affected by the tight saddle; he still has shoes and boots on, and the rider's still carrying a whip, and maybe sitting on the cantle of the saddle, all of which the horse will be conscious of in doing his 30-second run. There are just so many things that go into producing the show tolt, that we can't see what's natural for the horse. It's not a question, at this point, that what is being shown is mechanically induced; otherwise why would there still be discussions about it. If not mechanical, it would have been very easy for riders to stand up and show their horses barefoot, bootless, treeless, nosebandless, bitless, whipless, casual rein. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
RE: [IceHorses] Is This Tight?
Really?! I didn't know she dated Mick Jagger. That was a long, long time ago...back when Elton John was straight. Funny how music seems to freeze as the best from your high school and/or college years. I have a feeling I'm dating myself. I shouldn't remember all of this! Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] Betty
In a message dated 8/23/2007 7:38:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know if I am a Betty because I have had horses since I was 25 years old and I am 65 this next month. Assa is my birthday present to me that will give and give. I believe My Willie was a birthday present also five years ago when I turned 60, the dreaded day. I would have to count the horses I had but the dream was always the same. The Pony was never far from my mind with any of the horses I owned. Today my dreams have come true. My pony follows me around everywhere and helps me pick up stuff. He is affectionate and fun to watch. I hope he will be as fun to ride. Sylvia ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [IceHorses] Betty
Man, Sylvia, too bad we live so far apart, although both on the left coast. We're probably twins separated at birth. I bought my first horse at age 21 and I turned 65 in May, but I'll still claim the Betty label because I am having so much fun with the two Icelandics. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Is This Tight?
As long as you CAN remember it, Karen, you're not dating yourself. Nancy - Elton John was straight???
[IceHorses] Painful WC Photo
This looks so painful That poor horse. :8[ http://gallery.mac.com/jtfreeman#100035/DPP_0225bgcolor=black Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] Is This Tight?
That was a long, long time ago...back when Elton John was straight. Funny how music seems to freeze as the best from your high school and/or college years. I dunno. There's plenty of new stuff I like too. My nephew has turned me on to some newer bands. But maybe that's part of being a musician. Robyn S
RE: [IceHorses] Painful WC Photo
This looks so painful That poor horse. :8[ Oh gosh, look at some artist's representation: http://gallery.mac.com/jtfreeman#100035/1A9B8966bgcolor=black Now tell me THAT'S flattering, even if it is a stylistic rendering... I remember John's photos from the 2005 WC. He's a wonderful photographer, just awesome. Unfortunately, some of the images weren't so pretty though. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [IceHorses] Betty
I don't know if I am a Betty because I have had horses since I was 25 years old and I am 65 this next month. ...The Pony was never far from my mind with any of the horses I owned. Today my dreams have come true. My pony follows me around everywhere and helps me pick up stuff. He is affectionate and fun to watch. I hope he will be as fun to ride. I think that qualifies you as a Betty. Close enough anyway... :) Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[IceHorses] Conformation, or the way the horse is ridden...?
http://gallery.mac.com/jtfreeman#100035/1A9B0410bgcolor=black Look at the front foot of the chestnut horse that's in front...Look how far it's off the median line of his front leg. Unfortunately, it's not a bad moment in time because the prior shot of the same horse showed the same thing, but from another angle. (I couldn't get the back arrow to work with these pictures though...) Sorry, Nancy. I wish we had more good examples too. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[IceHorses] MN Flood Photos
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Re: [IceHorses] Is This Tight?
has Icelandics, that anyone knows about? Robyn S George Foreman I think, and he also has speed rackers and walkers. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Is This Tight?
whats her name from the Bangles, she owns my dog earls brother from the same litter. wonder if he is dumb as a box of rocks like our earl... but EYE CANDY oh my is he a handsome fella. Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] WAY off topic
On 8/23/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here you go, Janice. Carly won't confirm who was so vain, only that it wasn't James Taylor...although she hints it might have been Warren Beatty, not Mick Jagger. http://www.carlysimon.com/vain/vain.html Gee, what a laundry list of suspects... :) Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ok, but heres another couple of burning questions I have always wanted to know: 1. what do you think Billy Joe threw off the Tallahatchee bridge 2. What are the words to that song that goes Blinded by the light, straight up like a ___ in the middle of the night please tell me... Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
[IceHorses] heat
yesterday was just unmercifully hot. I got home and it was almost dark and cool and the horses were still damp with sweat. Traveller had a swollen, pink with blood, lump on his chest, Fox was covered in sweat that had turned to mud and stonewall had apparently stuck his head in the water trough and then the black dirt. Tivar had his fly mask off and was rubbing his face on the only pole around and nasi was a sandpile swarming with gnats. but they seemed content eating hay. I feel so bad about this heat! I think I am gonna set up box fans out there for them in their paddocks! Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] WAY off topic
1. what do you think Billy Joe threw off the Tallahatchee bridge hum...he jumped off and committed suicide...because he may have been gay. Mama said during lunch I got some news this mornin' from Choctaw Ridge, today Billie Joe McAllister jumped off the Tallahatchee Bridge. 2. What are the words to that song that goes Blinded by the light, straight up like a ___ in the middle of the night Blinded by the light, revved up like a deuce, another runner in the night. ;]
Re: [IceHorses] Conformation, or the way the horse is ridden...?
http://gallery.mac.com/jtfreeman#100035/1A9B0410bgcolor=black Look at the front foot of the chestnut horse that's in front...Look how far it's off the median line of his front leg. Here's some info about that: Leaning to the Side (Lumbering, Canting) At times, you will see horses who lean from side to side on their front ends while being ridden under saddle. This movement is a type of lumbering (also called canting), the throwing of the front quarters over the grounded foot. This is not a natural movement and probably will not be seen in unstarted horses. However, horses who have learned to go that way under saddle, may, at times, exhibit this movement at liberty. There are several possible considerations that may play a part in, or contribute to, leaning under saddle: [] The horse is very lateral; he may be performing a 4 beat gait, however, the leaning (lumbering) from side to side is indicative of his pacey-ness. [] The horse's back may be so tight or ventroflexed that his only allowable movement is lumbering. [] Too much rein contact. [] Too much ground-contact time for the weight-bearing front foot. [] Misconception of the rider that pulling on the left rein when the right leg is in the air (or vice versa), somehow the neck gets out of the way and the foot goes further forward or higher. [] The horse is being pushed too soon, too fast, in his training. [] The horse is being pushed onto the forehand disconnecting the hindquarters. [] Pain, inhibiting the horse from using his hind limbs correctly. [] Weak hindquarters. [] Crooked front legs JoAnn says: What you are seeing and describing occurs in some Peruvian Paso horses. I know exactly what you mean. There is a spanish/peruvian word description for it, I will find out and let you know. It is one of the worst defects you can have in a Peruvian horse. When viewing the horse coming at you, it looks like the whole body of the horse is leaning first over to one side and then the other. This way of moving is frequently found in horses that are base-wide in the rear and are compensating with the swaying side to side in the front to deal with the lack of strength in the rear. A large part of the side to side swaying movement is because the horse is actually pulling itself forward with the front leg first on one side and then the other instead of impulsing with the rear legs. Base-wide means the hind legs of the horse are set too wide apart and many times wider apart than the front legs--in some cases, if you stand directly behind the horse, you can see both front legs in the space between the rear legs. This type of horse frequently also has wide termino and an ewe neck, which produces what looks like a high head carriage (with an ewe neck, the horse cannot carry its head low, especially under saddle and in the bit), which makes it look (to some) impressive, especially when seen from the side. The reason it is considered a bad defect (aside from the obvious lack of aesthetics) is because horses that move that way are experiencing undue stress on the front end and frequently do not remain sound past early ages. http://iceryder.net/leaning.html Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Rehabs / Transport
On 8/16/07 1:50 PM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i could provide layover too! I would keep a rescue on the way to a good home at least a couple of months. Janice I too can provide layover and also will be able to provide a place to stay for a hauler once we are settled into the new house. -- Anneliese Virro UNICORN VALLEY ICELANDICS 1800 Carter School Road Stanford, Kentucky 40484 606-346-4963 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] Conformation, or the way the horse is ridden...?
I know none of this is at all funny, but it reminded me of Twist, our Standardbred, who was bred from a long line of pacing horse for pacing at the track pulling a little racing cart. Twist's sire won half a million dollars. Twist's lifetime earnings: $1008 When Abby first bought him, I could never remember his name. I kept wanting to call him Lurch. Nancy
[IceHorses] Mules Gives Birth~!
Wow...a miracle. http://kjct8.com/Global/story.asp?S=6846295Raven
[IceHorses] Rehabs and rescues
If we don't have any family and friends rehabs here when the need arises, we could take an Icelandic rehab or rescue. We have leased our irrigated farm land and keep our horses on a hillside dry lot. There is a nice three stall barn. We are the resting place for family horses who need a beak or are healing, and sometimes take evacuated horses in emergencies, so I don't always have room. We're in Southern Oregon between Grants Pass and Oregon. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] heat
yesterday was just unmercifully hot. Hang in there. You all on the east coast usually get our weather within a few days. Today's high was about 79 (!) w/ more of that to come. I get to actually RIDE MY HORSE TOMORROW And use my new saddle, bridle, neck rope, etc. that I've barely used so far, that I've owned for several months. We've had some rain too, which we needed. Weekend will be back in the 90s, then next week, 70-80s all week long w/ rain! Robyn S
Re: [IceHorses] heat
I get to actually RIDE MY HORSE TOMORROW And use my new saddle, bridle, neck rope, etc. Camera, don't forget the camera! At least put it on the fence post and let it take a video by itself. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
RE: [IceHorses] WAY off topic
Here you go, Janice. Carly won't confirm who was so vain, only that it wasn't James Taylor...although she hints it might have been Warren Beatty, not Mick Jagger. http://www.carlysimon.com/vain/vain.html Gee, what a laundry list of suspects... :) Karen Thomas She also dated Cat Stevens but since I was in love with him in high school, I refused to believe it was about him! Cherie
RE: [IceHorses] WAY off topic
2. What are the words to that song that goes Blinded by the light, straight up like a ___ in the middle of the night please tell me... Janice Here you go Janice, It's Bruce Springsteen and if you want the rest of the weird lyrics, just let me know! And she was blinded by the light Cut loose like a deuce another runner in the night Blinded by the light She got down but she never got tight, but she'll make it alright Cherie
RE: [IceHorses] WAY off topic
She also dated Cat Stevens but since I was in love with him in high school, I refused to believe it was about him! Sort of the way I felt about James Taylor when he sang Karen she's a silver sun in his In My Mind I'm Gone to Carolina song. I was pretty sure that was about me. I think I was 16. Yep. It HAD to be either Mick or Warren. It couldn't have been Cat or James. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] Stuck patella
On 8/17/07 2:53 PM, Debbie Kirchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Anneliese, That is just it, my horses are out 24/7, I have a track system, they run and play... they move around the track a lot, checking for hay I have spread out or the new blade of grass that just might have grown since the last time they checked... She had been kicked, so I have to think this had something to do with it... Debbie: I did not realize that the the stuck patella was because of having been kicked. In my case the problem was from birth. And each case resolved as hoped for. Do you think that there is scar tissue that may be able to be removed? I don't really know all that much about it but according to my vet, there is a relatively simple procedure they can do to take care of the problem. Anneliese
[IceHorses] Hey Bettys
Will you ladies pray for me or send good thoughts or whatever you like? We're heading off tomorrow morning to an endurance ride held on Saturday with lots of scarey bridges, lots of water crossings, including the Rogue River, and lots of bees. I really don't want to get launched. I no longer bounce athletically to my feet, but splat like a giant blob. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Hey Bettys
We're heading off tomorrow morning to an endurance ride held on Saturday with lots of scarey bridges, lots of water crossings, including the Rogue River, and lots of bees. I really don't want to get launched. Will do! :) Here's a Betty link: http://www.gobettygo.com/photos.asp A cool chick band, girl drummer an' all--Go Betty Go! So--Go Betty Go, Nancy! Robyn S.
Re: [IceHorses] Hey Bettys
On 23/08/07, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will you ladies pray for me or send good thoughts or whatever you like? You've got it girl. I'll be cheering you on from up here. Think positive and everything will be fine. Good luck. Wanda
RE: [IceHorses] WAY off topic
1. what do you think Billy Joe threw off the Tallahatchee bridge I don't know, but I graduated from high school on the third of June, another dusty, dirty delta day. Oh wait, I don't live in the delta. It WAS hot though. Man, this has been a walk down memory lane! Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [IceHorses] WAY off topic
Karen Thomas wrote: Yep. It HAD to be either Mick or Warren. It couldn't have been Cat or James. Sorry girls, I heard that it was about George HamiltonMr. Tanned Man... Wanda That's fine as long as it's not Cat or James! Cherie
Re: [IceHorses] Rehabs and rescues
In a message dated 8/23/2007 3:31:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Nancy, You are near my new baby she is in Bend Oregon. Sylvia ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [IceHorses] WAY off topic
Not a big deal anymore. If I hear a song I want to download, I just write down a line or 2 of lyric that I get and type it into Google. It always comes up, doesn't matter how off base the lyric line is. Robyn S gosh...of course! what was I thinking!?
Re: [IceHorses] WAY off topic
On 8/23/07, Cherie Mascis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. What are the words to that song that goes Blinded by the light, straight up like a ___ in the middle of the night please tell me... Janice Here you go Janice, It's Bruce Springsteen and if you want the rest of the weird lyrics, just let me know! And she was blinded by the light Cut loose like a deuce another runner in the night Blinded by the light She got down but she never got tight, but she'll make it alright Cherie i would be better able to believe either you or raven but neither version makes even the least vestige of sense, does it?? also that billyjoe mccalister was rumored gay?? Where did it say THAT in the song raven??. Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Stuck patella
She is moving better on it, the Vet told me about the surgery too... He believes it is a combination, streight Stifle and the kick... so time will tell, I suspect with the kick she did not move much, then lost muscle, then it went out, so I am hoping we are on the mend, she does look better, I have seen her moving out, gaiting, and cantering, I have not made her do the hilll yet... Debbie in MN ~ Please check out how we can all help raise money for Huginn's Hospital Fund ~ http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgtrq74d_386xtqp ~~~If we all do a little, we will have a lot
[IceHorses] question for Karen
Where do you get that zinc oxide stuff? Happy Trails from Lorraine Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC
Re: [IceHorses] Hey Bettys
Will you ladies pray for me or send good thoughts or whatever you like? endurance ride held on Saturday with lots of scarey bridges, lots of water crossings, Sure will Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Rehabs and rescues
We also can provide transport and a place to stop and rest. We have some paddocks and pastures and a couple of stalls we never use but are available. We are about 70 miles north of San Francisco. Ann
Re: [IceHorses] Rehabs / Transport
I've got room too, at least for now. I have inside and outside stalls, corral space and pasture. Annie
RE: [IceHorses] question for Karen
Where do you get that zinc oxide stuff? For sunburn? You can use Desitin diaper rash cream, although I've found bigger containers of a generic brand at Sam's Club in the Same's Club brand. Costco may have it too. But, basically, look at the ingredients on diaper rash cream. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [IceHorses] Hey Bettys
We're heading off tomorrow morning to an endurance ride held on Saturday with lots of scarey bridges, lots of water crossings, including the Rogue River, and lots of bees. I really don't want to get launched. I no longer bounce athletically to my feet, but splat like a giant blob. I just know you're going to do well. You'll be riding Hunter? I'll be jealous of anyone riding, although it does look like our weather may be breaking. Have a great time and send pictures! Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [IceHorses] question for Karen
--- Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where do you get that zinc oxide stuff? No. It was for Dagur's sores under his eyes. Maybe it wasn't you. I will figure something out. Happy Trails from Lorraine Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz
Re: [IceHorses] Rehabs and rescues
When do you get her home? I bought a newborn Welsh cob once and had her shipped from Washington State at weaning. She made the trip just fine. You can't get a big rig turned around at our place, so I met the transport truck about 1/2 mile from home. That little gal hopped off one trailer and onto another like she'd been doing it her whole life. We're actually about five hours south of Bend, but go through there on the way to some of the Central Oregon endurance rides. As the crow flies, we're probably 15 miles from the California border. There are no roads, so by car, it's about 1 1/2 hours in any direction. Nancy
RE: [IceHorses] WAY off topic
i would be better able to believe either you or raven but neither version makes even the least vestige of sense, does it?? Bruce Springsteen wrote the song and sang the words I sent. Manfred Mann's Earth Band changed the words slightly using Raven's version (they had the big hit). I'm sure there's something on the net that will tell you what he meant! Cherie
[IceHorses] Susan in Pink
Susan, got one of these? http://tinyurl.com/2erdka Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
[IceHorses] Freak Show? :{
I don't get this ...freak show? http://rookertrainingstable.com/stallions/clout.html Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] OT Horse For Janice's Friend
Janice - I was looking through this rescue's horses available and saw this guy: http://www.habitatforhorses.org/adoptahorse/charles.html I couldn't remember if your friend's father wanted a mare or a gelding. Charles seems like a nice guy. Looks like he is only 14.1h though. Sarah Msla, MT
Re: [IceHorses] Freak Show? :{
--- Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't get this ...freak show? http://rookertrainingstable.com/stallions/clout.html I watched the video of this horse and what I want to know is when you see the man riding this horse, is he just a lousy rider, or does this type of park trot make posting impossible? I would like to ride a horse like this in a proper saddle and see what it feels like and to see how proper tack and proper riding would affect the horse as opposed to this freak show. Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/
Re: [IceHorses] Susan in Pink
--- Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan, got one of these? http://tinyurl.com/2erdka You know, I seriously considered getting one of these! I searched the archives of the treeless list for everything good and bad about these saddles, and I still MIGHT buy one one of these days and try it out because I've heard mostly good things from people who have bought them, and mostly bad things from people who havn't! Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
