Re: [IceHorses] sensation question
> my advice is not to worry about it, and buy a pretty > chameleon package > instead. :) > Janice > -- > even good horses have bad days sometimes They are perty. Lorraine Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [IceHorses] Got milk....?
wow! great pics karen, thanks so much! Bia
[IceHorses] Saddle Club
I happened on a cute TV show the other day, Saddle Club, on Discovery Kids. I think it's based in the UK because the kids have British accents. http://kids.discovery.com/fansites/saddleclub/video/promo.html Here's a compilation of some of The Saddle Club videos: http://iceryder65.blogspot.com/ Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
RE: [IceHorses] Trotting Long and Low
Hi Susan, >>Ther were a few strides of pure trotting bliss, but I was in an arena, so it didn't last long! I will try it on the trail Monday. If your are getting that feeling of lifting the back and stretching down then I would say the saddle is really allowing this. It can be hard for them to hold the posture as it is often a change in balance. The trail could make it easier and she will probably explore what is possible. - with it getting longer and longer that she can maintain the posture. Robyn
[IceHorses] Re: The full story... Maja's colt's birth
How did you know she was ready to give birth? Do you have a baby monitor or did you just stay up all night?! No baby monitor. I knew yesterday was the day for a few reasons. One, the best way I've found to predict the day of the foal's birth is to check the opacity of the milk a couple of times per day. As foaling approaches, I get a drop or two of milk 2-3 times per day onto a piece of black plastic - something like an old film canister works well. Within 12 or so hours of delivery, the milk will turn from clear to creamy when you look at it on a black background - it will only show clearly on a dark background. Of the eight foals born here, it's only missed for one. When I was considering breeding a few years ago, Anneliese told me a lot of the signs to watch for. She told me that if the mares really trust their person, they will allow some respectful and quiet assistance. She's right. She also told me that if I know the behaviors of my mares, they will let me know when the time is near - the day of foaling, their routines will change. Each mare's changes will be different - some may eat more, some may eat less...some may act newly energized, almost excited, while others may be more subdued. Whatever, there will be a change, so you have to know YOUR mares. Maja allowed us to witness the birth of her first filly, Kola, two years ago. I'm sure she could have delivered her just fine, but Cary gave a little help much like last night, hoping to ease her pain just a little. Yesterday, not only did her milk change, but she was acting more restless, occasionally biting at her sides, etc. I have been sleeping in the camper next to the paddocks, so last night, I dozed, and looked out the window every few minutes. About 1:30am, she did something she hadn't done in the other nights I've been checking in on her: she came to the end of the paddock near the camper and stared at my window. I had been hesitant to disturb her, thinking I'd go out only if she needed help, but I got the distinct feeling she was thinking, hey, I'm having a baby here, where's my help? Cary was sleeping in the camper too, so we pulled out lawn chairs beside her paddock, and she proceeded to go into labor with us there. I really think she was reassured by our presence. Karen Thomas, NC
RE: [IceHorses] Trotting Long and Low
--- Robyn Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I generally view it as a good thing but it would also depend on the speed and rhythm of the trot - is it rushy or does it have more suspension?<< Hi Robyn, The trot has more of a floaty, suspended feeling. I am demoing a new saddle, and I thought it was a good thing for her to stretch her neck down and round up her back. Ther were a few strides of pure trotting bliss, but I was in an arena, so it didn't last long! I will try it on the trail Monday. Susan in NV read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink: http://desertduty.blogspot.com/ Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[IceHorses] Hroi's first gait video
Hroi makes his YouTube debut... http://youtube.com/watch?v=zmKGJ3duVYM This has probably next to nothing to do with how his gaits will mature, but I think it's adorable...not that I'm biased of course... :) Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] Eye Candy Isak
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Isak, the eye candy... > > Karen Thomas, NC > Yup, I agree!! V
[IceHorses] The full story... Maja's colt's birth
Thanks for sending a link to a slideshow! I was hoping you would as don't receive pics on the digest verison. Love that pic where Maja is stretched right round to give her baby a "kiss" while she's lying down. And the one where she's yawning. Looks like she's saying, "Aah, no big deal!" How did you know she was ready to give birth? Do you have a baby monitor or did you just stay up all night?! He's adorable! Trish
Re: [IceHorses] The full story... Maja's colt's birth
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=4jh0nhxz.7l93y1nf&x=0&y=4d3lqh&localeid=en_US > > Karen Thomas, NC > Oh wow! That is so incredible!! V
Re: [IceHorses] The full story... Maja's colt's birth
>>> Is he the same kind of black as Landi? Yes, what I'd call a "true black" for lack of a better term. He's Landi's half brother, and Kola's full brother, and they are both that color too. The only thing different is that he has a lot of "roan" around his muzzle - I don't know what's up with that. None of my other dark foals have had this. I need to see if I can catch it in a picture, but he actually has a faint snip-like mark - almost like a short, low blaze - in the "roan-ish" coloring. I have no idea if this is transient or if it's permanent.I would tend to think transient, except that Cali (his great aunt) has a lot of "roan-like" markings on her face, including an odd, low-placed star. Note to color purists: I know this isn't true roan, but it's the best way I can think to describe it via e-mail. It is what it is, whatever you chose to call it. :) Karen Thomas, NC IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[IceHorses] Elizabeth Graves - Equine Affaire
Did any of you guys see Elizabeth Graves at EA? She really helped a girl with a very lateral/pacey TWH. She kept working with her to get the horse to carry its head a little lower and to get it to trot. My friend, Carol, went with me this year and she has not stopped talking about her making gaits much clearer. Carol has a black and white TWH that she is having trouble figuring out her gaits. The horses really loved the lavender stuff that she carried with her. It really seemed to make them relax. Renee **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851)
Re: [IceHorses] A bad pic...or arty...?
Definitely NOT a bad picture It's beautiful. Jacki
RE: [IceHorses] The full story... Maja's colt's birth
Congrats Karen, Great series of pics. He's a good looking baby boy. Is he the same kind of black as Landi? One more to go! Cherie No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1377 - Release Date: 4/14/2008 9:26 AM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [IceHorses] The full story... Maja's colt's birth
Yes, I noticed the contracted Tendons, which is why I asked if you were going to get him out and moving soon... he can run in and out of your barn into that area where he was born, that should be good for a couple days... even taking mom out for a walk a couple times a day will get him moving.. he is just a big colt, and took up all the space inside mom... that will be good to have two babies at the same time... They will play and play and run and run... I did not have another one to play with Charm, but I had our mule, who was just as good... plus she protected her She was born with Contracted Tendons too... I sure enjoyed the pictures... -- PNH Levels 1 & 2 Clinics, Rochester MN http://www.sittinghorse.us The Soul of a Horse ~ has touched my soul, may it touch yours too! ~ thesoulofahorse.com/Pre-Order-Reviews.htm ~
Re: [IceHorses] The full story... Maja's colt's birth
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=4jh0nhxz.7l93y1nf&x=0&y=4d3lqh&localeid=en_US Cool, Karen, Almost like being there. He's a beauty Laree in NC Doppa & Mura Simon, Sadie and Sam (the "S" gang) "Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them." - William Farley
[IceHorses] Flying lead changes
Just for the record, I've already seen Maja's colt do two flying lead changes, and he's just 12 hours old. He's also getting the "correct" leads. This isn't stuff that's made up for shows, nor is it something that has to be taught. Normal, healthy horses naturally pick the "correct" lead almost all of the time, because it's more comfortable and balanced for them. Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] Got milk....?
>>> Hi Karen: Congradulations on such a fine fello. Great pics on the birth. >>> I never think to do that. I get so caught up in the moment, it is usually >>> at night when everybody else in my household is sleeping. I am usually the >>> only one so never get any pics until everything is all over. What color is >>> he? __._ Thanks! He's black, but he has something odd about the color on his nose - definitely a lot of white hairs on his muzzle. I've had four dark brown/black horses born here, and I've never seen this before. Maybe it will go away as he matures, but it's kind of interesting. It reminds me of Flekka's muzzle - she's a pinto, but her nose has some mottling that's almost reminiscent of an Appaloosa. Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] The full story... Maja's colt's birth
>>> What a big guy... beautiful pictures... will you get him out to a big area >>> so he can run? Thanks He'll stay up the rest of the weekend. Like a lot of foals, he has slightly contracted tendons. Usually, this corrects itself in a couple of days, but I need to keep him somewhere I can carefully monitor the progress, just to be extra safe. But, he'll be out to pasture just as soon as possible - maybe by Monday. Also, Flekka is due any day - maybe in a day or two. I'd be just as happy to wait and put them out at the same time. That way, there will be two moms to watch over two babies. I don't worry TOO much about stray dogs, etc., but I do feel better when the moms of the tiny ones can take a nap with someone else on guard duty. Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] Re: The full story... Maja's colt's birth
Very nice slide show, Karen. Thanks for sharing. Looks like you have a fine healthy baby. Annie > "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, > contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and > unrealistic."
[IceHorses] Re: What Gait / Florida Cracker Horse
> > http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/04/what-gait-florida-cracker- horse.html > First clip is; stepping pace. Uneven lateral pick up and set down 1-2--- 34 beat. second clip is; saddle rack before it goes into stepping pace at the end. Susan coombes
[IceHorses] Re: The full story... Maja's colt's birth
Wonderful Karen. Thank you for letting me share the experience. Sue coombes
[IceHorses] Benny Jumping
A video of Benny jumping: http://iceryder.blogspot.com/2008/04/benny-jumping.html Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Where'd he come from...?
In a message dated 4/19/2008 6:07:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ohhh, I enjoyed those pictures so much, thank you for this. Sylvia **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851)
Re: [IceHorses] The full story... Maja's colt's birth
AM > What a big guy... beautiful pictures... will you get him out to a big > area so he can run? When Surtsey was born at 3:30 AM nearly five years ago, she started running and by 4:30 AM had fallen onto our goldfish pond. I had to jump in and help her out and then start drying her. It was hilarious and she loves water to this day. Ann
Re: [IceHorses] The full story... Maja's colt's birth
Great slideshow, Karen. Congratulations on the handsome boy! Ann
Re: [IceHorses] The full story... Maja's colt's birth
Charm was born black and is still black... What a big guy... beautiful pictures... will you get him out to a big area so he can run? -- PNH Levels 1 & 2 Clinics, Rochester MN http://www.sittinghorse.us The Soul of a Horse ~ has touched my soul, may it touch yours too! ~ thesoulofahorse.com/Pre-Order-Reviews.htm ~
Re: [IceHorses] Here he is...
Thanks so much for these photos, Karen! Great job at photography! Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] jeffers
its either on the cover or the back. its adorable. Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] The full story... Maja's colt's birth
oh hes prescious!!! Such long long hair, isnt that unusual?? I think you should name him curly. ANd odd color. Blacks arent supposed to be born black but we know he cant be grey...maybe bay?? He is just beautiful Karen and Cary!! and those pics.,.. now he will be a ham all his life! Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] The full story... Maja's colt's birth
whoo ho full moon!!! goin to look at the pics now... janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
[IceHorses] The full story... Maja's colt's birth
http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=4jh0nhxz.7l93y1nf&x=0&y=4d3lqh&localeid=en_US Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] Cali's first surcingle
On 19/04/2008, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rather than buckling the surcingle, she holds it as she asks her to go > forward. That way, if she feels "grabbed" by the sensation, she can > instantly let go before it's a big deal. Thanks for sending the pics Karen. This is all such positive stuff. The motto Cara and I live by when we're training is to keep everything low key and positive. We feel it's important that the horse looks forward to his/her training sessions. I really enjoy watching the videos of Shirley and seeing the pics. She gives me confidence in the methods Cara and I have been usingand she gives me tons of ideas. Solon is next in line and we've just begun some ground driving with him so keep the videos coming. We're not professional trainers by any means, and we do get stumped occassionally as we're progressingWe have lots of conversations about the 'correct' way to do somethingbut if we can start a horse, anyone can. You should see the pile of training books beside my bed. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Got milk....?
On 19/04/2008, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > First meal. > How adorable Karen! Now I want you to stay up for the rest of the day and get some pics of him when he's dry, and some pics of him snoozing, playing, looking around at the rest of the herd... Congratulations Wanda
