Re: [IceHorses] Bridleless Riding
On Jan 9, 2008, at 12:47 PM, Judy Ryder wrote: > Is anyone working on bridleless riding? 2 of my daughters will often just grab a stick in the pasture and jump on their horses and go for a ride. They learned to ride from the start with Parelli. Meg
[IceHorses] Dangerous Effects of Vaccinations
http://www.dogsadversereactions.com/scienceVaccineDamage.html This article is especially informative, and is well documented. Meg
Re: [IceHorses] Wanted - Icelandic Horse
> I know i > might get criticised for being so blunt but honestly there are at > least 50% of people on these lists buying icelandics that end up being > very disapointed! That's quite a statement... perhaps we could do a poll to see how close to accurate that is. Meg
Re: [IceHorses] survival ideas
> Any ideas?? I dont have a large storage area. I have looked into sprouting grain for forage. They have done this in drought stricken areas with great success, and there are even some high end horses that get such a diet all of the time because it is so nutritious. It doesn't take a lot of area to sprout what you need for a small herd. Here's an article on it: http://www.abc.net.au/landline/stories/s805364.htm Meg
Re: [IceHorses] Soreness
> How can you tell if your horse is sore? The way they walk, kind of ouchy like a person would be walking on stones if sore feet. The way they stand... I had a new mare leaning forward last winter.. her front feet weren't square under her. Since she was new to me, I wondered if it was just her conformation, but upon closer examination, I could see that her frogs were weak.. thin, narrow, and pealing. She stands square now and her frogs look much better, but is still ouchy on gravel. BTW, those weak frogs are like candida in people... a result of over-acidity caused by too much sugar/starch, antibiotics and chemicals and too little probiotics. Giving daily EM's, no grains, wild horse trimming and 24 hr turnout on varied terrain seems to be correcting her problem. Meg
Re: [IceHorses] Zimba
> THAT is the coolest calmest horse! a stallion! does he pass his > sane calm temperament to his offspring?? how awesome. > Janice We have a daughter of his, and she's awesome! Here is a little article that I wrote about her last year with a pic: http://home-n-stead.com/homestead/homesteadingarticles/ naturaly_natural.html and here's a pic with her winter coat (scroll down) http://home-n-stead.com/about/blog.html My daughter is continuing to lightly ride her this year (she's 3 and my daughter is 85 lbs). She sometimes uses her to go fetch the cows at the back of the pasture (1/2 mile deep), and she has a ball. She often rides her around with nothing at all on her head. Last week, my daughter was picking berries at the back of the pasture and suddenly had to go potty. She jumped on Lina and cantered straight up to the house without anything at all. She's a lot of fun, but she can also be a real stinker if she's mad about something... she seems like she's part mule :-). For example, my daughter started a new horse recently and it seems as if Lina is very jealous. She acted rather nonchalant, but the first time that my daughter went to ride her again she played all kinds of naughty tricks. Her intelligence and perceptivity is unlike any horse I've ever known. She's not afraid of anything and loves to trail ride.. hates to turn around to go home, like she's looking forward to seeing what's around the next bend. Meg
Re: [IceHorses] sell or trade
I have 3 2 yo stud colts. I've been trying to decide which one to keep as a stallion to best suit our needs, and it has been very difficult. They're all wonderful, and unique. Since we are a family homestead and gearing towards other family homesteaders for our breeding market, I'm leaning towards putting our showiest colt on the market, for sale or trade. I think his potential would be best met elsewhere. It's tough to do, though, because I think he is the most gorgeous in my herd, and I love watching him. He's curious and loves scratches, and he didn't flinch when my kids climbed on him in the pasture. We haven't done much with him, yet, except the basic Games, leading and trims. He has been with mares, the other colts and a couple of big mules, and gets along great with everyone. I'm pretty sure that he bred a couple of mares. He is polite and gentle, but oh so handsome. Deep copper color with a bright flaxen mane, beautiful conformation, great feet, gaits in the pasture. I haven't sticked him, but he is pretty tall already. Genetically, he is supposed to go to 13.1, but he seems close to that now. We are in the UP of Michigan. I would consider a trade for a mare. Must be at least 3 years old. Meg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 906 884 6900
Re: [IceHorses] Eating dirt?
You may want to look into Redmond's Real Salt, which is sometimes carried as rocks by the more natural minded feed stores, and is also sold as "The Trophy Rock" for a natural salt lick for deer. Here is more info and an online source: http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/redmond.html Shortly after we got our first 2 jerseys, we were feeding an organic loose mineral and found that the cows starting eating their shed. My husband mentioned it to the feed mill guy, and he sent him home with the standard salt block. The cows started licking the thing and wouldn't stop... they started blowing up with edema so we took it away late that afternoon. The edema lasted for several days, and their udders were rock hard and very difficult to milk. Then we bought a Real Salt rock, and they licked it, but they seemed satisfied and walked away after a few minutes. WIth the Real Salt rock, they completely stopped eating their house and had no edema whatsoever. We've been feeding these to all of our animals ever since (for the past 4 years), and are very happy with them. Meg
Re: [IceHorses] Mules
Beautiful scenery! She looks like one of our mules, only ours are a tad smaller. What kind of saddle is that? I'm still looking for a good mule saddle that won't slip when we mount. Is that a hack you're riding in? I finally discovered that my mule is very responsive to a hack... I'd lose her with just the rope halter. Meg
Re: [IceHorses] new Icy colt chestnut?
> I took some pics of this colt's mane (close up). I > don't know if it was you or someone else that wanted > to see it but here it is. It is kind of greyish. > It looks like our colt's did.. he had a fox red overcoat and a greyish undercoat. He's turning out to be a smokey blue dun. He looks really funny while he's shedding out his winter coat. Meg
[IceHorses] Re: saddles
I was wondering if any of the mule and icelandic owners on this list have found a saddle that fits both. If not, what is your favorite mule saddle? Also, does anyone have any experience with the Fox Valley Saddlery Icelandic saddles being sold on ebay? Thanks! Meg
Re: [IceHorses] Re: ID microchips
> For those maintaining that microchips themselves cause cancer (and at > a greater rate than > any other injection site), would you cite your sources (actual > scientific studies), please. > http://www.freedom.org/news/200612/20/janewilliams.phtml
Re: [IceHorses] ID microchips
Microchips thoroughly gross me out, and I wouldn't purchase a horse that had one. I have read that they cause cancer, and listened to an audio tape made many years ago by a scientist who had a conversion while working on the microchip project. He said that he was asked to determine the ideal placement for the microchip in human beings, as they need temperature changes in order to recharge. They came up with the 2 ideal locations as being in the back of the hand and on the forehead. (And he shall make all, both little and great, rich and poor, freemen and bondmen, to have a character in their right hand or on their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, but he that hath the character, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Apocalypse Chapter 13: 16-17) Then, further research indicated that these microchips would be toxic to the body and would eventually cause a wound. When he was disturbed by this and went to a co-worker to discuss this further, he pressed the co-worker as to what kind of wound would be caused, and the co-worked, after beating around the bush, ended up snapping, "a wound that won't heal... a GRIEVOUS wound." (And there fell a sore and grievous wound upon men who had the character of the beast: and upon them that adored the image thereof. Apocalypse Chapter Chapter 16:2) Meg
Re: [IceHorses] Re: gaited mules
> > I think training a donkey or mule is best left to people who enjoy > > torment and abuse. > > Hey!:) I couldn't recommend that people try and train their own > mule. I have heard of quite a few people feeling they were in over > their heads, and I have feelings of being in over my head at > moments, I'm having less and less of those momenst, but you know I > don't think I would ever have grown so much as a horseperson if it > were not for the mules:) This did me so much good to hear! I got my dream come true when we got 2 previously unhandled mules 1-1/2 yrs ago, but it has been so disheartening and confusing when I would think I was making progress, and then find that I must have done something to offend, because things would start to go wrong. I'm learning way more about horsemanship with these girls than I ever did before! It's so rewarding when you "get over the humps" and really start to bond, but it sure does take a lot longer than I expected... I'm now where I had really thought I would be a year ago! Yes, I like the idea of an icelandic mule... wow! What a combo! I had planned to breed curly gaited spotted mules before, and I even had the nicest gaited, spotted jack, and a few gaited curlies for the dream, but it got interrupted... Meg
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Horse trader
> I've had people tell me they thought this had happened to them, that > they rode a horse at the owner's barn, it was a nice horse, they take > it home and it goes crazy. > Personally, I've never been misrepresented or lied to, though I'm sure it happens. I've bought and sold horses across country when I was raising curly bashkirs... being a rare breed, you often have no choice. I never had any disappointments on either end that way, but have experienced a few disappointments on both ends (buying and selling) after actually seeing the horse in person prior to purchase. In all of these cases, it had nothing to do with drugs or misrepresentations, but rather the horse itself being unhappy in its new surroundings. One example was where I sold the sweetest, most affectionate mare I had to another breeder in the state. I heard that she later told another breeder that she was the "meanest horse she ever saw." Apparently, after some time, the mare pinned her against the stall wall and gave her a pummeling with her hind legs. She finally figured out that that mare craved a lot of attention, and, having a rather large herd, this lady hadn't been giving it to her. Once she started loving on her, the mare turned back to her old self. Then there was the first pony I bought for our homestead. Sweet as could be and picture book cute. All the kids got to ride on her, and she seemed to really enjoy them and was perfectly calm. Got her off the trailer and she turned into a beast. Scared the wits out of my kids... would actually run up to them and bite them in the shoulder, and kick at every opportunity. She was just plain furious to be at our farm... missed her bigger 2 horses that had been her "moms" at the previous farm, and was outraged that all we had were a bunch of goats (which she chased and tormented if given the chance). A mare we recently got was an absolute handful at first, and it has taken a couple months for her to settle in. If we weren't experienced with natural horsemanship and patient, I'm sure we would have been very unhappy with her and might have felt that she was misrepresented to us. Some horses are just more sensitive to changes in their environment than others. Meg
