Re: [IceHorses] American Bridle Bit

2008-07-18 Thread Janice McDonald
 If so, that would
> depend entirely on which version you buy...?
>
>
> Karen Thomas, NC
>

yes but if you bought the one shown... the shanks confuse me.  Shanks
apply exponential leverage.  Yet Liz and Lee are both ok with the Lil
Missoula which has a shank, but the shank curves so it lessens the
pressure.  This bit shown, is the pressure less because of the way the
shanks curve?  I dont like the mouthpiece.  My fox would rear with
that type port.  Some horses have tongues that cant handle a port of
any kind.  Just a curve.
Janice
-- 
even good horses have bad days sometimes.


Re: [IceHorses] American Bridle Bit

2008-07-17 Thread Mic Rushen
It's an Aussie make of biothane tack. Comes in lots of exciting
colours, fits well and is very durable.

Here's the Aus website:
http://www.zilco.com.au/prod/trk/bridle.shtm

Mic


Mic (Michelle) Rushen

---
Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: 
www.solva-icelandics.co.uk
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Re: [IceHorses] American Bridle Bit

2008-07-17 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> For those who are using this bit, or who are considering using this bit, 
>>> can you explain the mechanics of the bit and why you would chose it?


Doesn't this bit come with different mouthpieces and with and without 
shanks?   Or did I get it confused with another website?  If so, that would 
depend entirely on which version you buy...?


Karen Thomas, NC




Re: [IceHorses] American Bridle Bit

2008-07-17 Thread Judy Ryder


> I think the discussion of bits is so interesting because there are so many
> bits out there on the market and various ways to use them.
> it is important to understand the function of any of them.

Definitely.

For those who are using this bit, or who are considering using this bit, can 
you explain the mechanics of the bit and why you would chose it?

Thanks!


Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com 



Re: [IceHorses] American Bridle Bit

2008-07-17 Thread Skye and Sally ~Fire Island


> I like my Zilco tack a lot. It's hard wearing and seems
> to fit well.
> 
> Mic


What is zilco tack?  I am intrigued.

Skye

tropicaltreks.com


RE: [IceHorses] American Bridle Bit

2008-07-17 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Stephanie,
>>>I know there has been lots of discussion on bits but I thought I might 
throw this one out into the pot for some healthy discussion.  I 
started using it a bit ago and really have liked it as has my horses.  
It is called the Ringmaster

Interesting bits.  I have one of the original prototypes from this company
that I got about 20 years ago and it sits in my tack room.  I liked the fact
that the bit was adjustable in size, it is quite interesting the way they
have made it.  They have added a number of different styles as I just had an
English - as shown and a western.  Which ones have you tried, do you like
and how do you find it different than other bits, other than width
adjustability?

My biggest problem with most western or shanked bits is that they don't
offer a way to balance the horse - you can either have contact or release it
- same goes for bits that apply poll or nose pressure, or with heavy reins -
you can more easily tend to increase the pressure rather than make it
lighter.  

I think the discussion of bits is so interesting because there are so many
bits out there on the market and various ways to use them.  Just like
everything it is more about the way they are used than whether something is
good or bad but it is important to understand the function of any of them.

Robyn Hood

 



Re: [IceHorses] American Bridle Bit

2008-07-17 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> I have a sidepull from this site, and I rather like it.  It's beta and 
>>> doesn't seem to 
>>> harden when it's cold.



Is the one?  http://www.canadiantack.com/pics/sidepull.jpg  Does it pull up 
into the 
horse's eyes?


I've leaned towards getting the ones with the jowl strap (not the throatlatch), 
like this 
one:
http://mossrockendurance.com/images/ChrisSidepull.jpg  Lisa does good work with 
beta and 
biothane, and will customize them, and hers are very reasonably priced.  She 
made the one 
I use for Tivar that has the turquoise stones in the overlay.  (There's a layer 
of beta 
underneath, so the rivets don't touch the horse.)I also have several of her 
Freedom 
Bridles, which can be used as a bridle, sidepull, cross-over bitless bridle (I 
took the 
cross-over straps off), and a halter.   The Freedom Bridle is the main bridle 
we use.


Karen Thomas, NC



Re: [IceHorses] American Bridle Bit

2008-07-17 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> We start our young horses in a modified sidepullthen we haved gone to a 
>>> snaffel, 
>>> but have not been liking the traditional snaffel and some of the problems 
>>> they can 
>>> cause, like evading the bit...so we have started using french links, and 
>>> that has been 
>>> much better.


We use sidepulls too, but when we use bits, we use more French links than 
anything.   You 
can find them in stainless at any "English" (hunter, dressage) tack store in 
sizes from 
3.5" to 5.5", for about $20-30.   I haven't found that the more expensive bits 
work 
better.

>>> I have also been looking for biothane bridles.  We have 2 that we got from 
>>> country 
>>> supply, but have not liked the hardware that they are made with.  So we 
>>> will be 
>>> ordering 2 of these to try out.  Hawaii is hard on tack and biothane is the 
>>> perfect 
>>> solution.


Check out Moss Rock Endurance.  She does great work, will customize sizes for 
no extra 
charge, will make them in plain biothane or beta biothane, or with colored 
overlays, 
bling, you name it.  I like her Freedom Bridles which can be used as a halter, 
sidepull, 
"bitless bridle", or standard bridle.   She has made one this size which is 
adjustable to 
fit all my Icelandic heads from tiny Sina (here: 
http://mossrockendurance.com/images/FBTurq.jpg) to big honking Tivar's head.  
She made the 
black beta sidepull for Tivar that has the turquoise stones on the overlay.   
If you 
really want a spiffy look, she will make a matching breast collar.  Her prices 
are great, 
considering she makes everything to order.


Karen Thomas, NC



Re: [IceHorses] American Bridle Bit

2008-07-17 Thread Wanda Lauscher
2008/7/17 Skye and Sally ~Fire Island <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> We start our young horses in a modified sidepullthen we haved gone to a 
> snaffel, but have not been liking the traditional snaffel and some of the 
> problems they can cause, like evading the bit...so we have started using 
> french links, and that has been much better.


I have a sidepull from this site, and I rather like it.  It's beta and
doesn't seem to harden when it's cold.

http://www.canadiantack.com/

Wanda


-- 
Thoughts become things...


Re: [IceHorses] American Bridle Bit

2008-07-17 Thread Mic Rushen
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:55:16 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

>I have also been looking for biothane bridles.  We have 2 that we got from 
>country supply, but have not liked the hardware that they are made with.  So 
>we will be ordering 2 of these to try out.  Hawaii is hard on tack and 
>biothane is the perfect solution.

I like my Zilco tack a lot. It's hard wearing and seems to fit well.

Mic


Mic (Michelle) Rushen

---
Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: 
www.solva-icelandics.co.uk
---



Re: [IceHorses] American Bridle Bit

2008-07-17 Thread Skye and Sally ~Fire Island

--- On Wed, 7/16/08, Stephenie and Gunnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I started using it a bit ago and really have liked it as has my horses.  
It is called the Ringmaster and what I really like is that I can use it 
on several different horses because the bit size is adjustable.  


Hey thanks Stephanie.  Sally and I have been updating our tack.  We have been 
looking into purchasing different types of bits for our older trained riding 
horses.  I think we might try this one.  We have been looking at the MikMar 
bits, but I will show this to Sally.

We start our young horses in a modified sidepullthen we haved gone to a 
snaffel, but have not been liking the traditional snaffel and some of the 
problems they can cause, like evading the bit...so we have started using french 
links, and that has been much better.

I have also been looking for biothane bridles.  We have 2 that we got from 
country supply, but have not liked the hardware that they are made with.  So we 
will be ordering 2 of these to try out.  Hawaii is hard on tack and biothane is 
the perfect solution.

Aloha

Skye

tropicaltreks.com --  Your Icelandic Riding Hawaiian Dream Vacation


Re: [IceHorses] American Bridle Bit

2008-07-16 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> I started using it a bit ago and really have liked it as has my horses. 
>>> It is called the Ringmaster and what I really like is that I can use it 
>>> on several different horses because the bit size is adjustable.


It's an interesting idea...but it's $100.  I can buy four basic snaffles 
(French link, mullen mouth or similar mild bits) at any English-type tack 
store in my neighborhood or online for about the same - about $22-30 each. 
Then I don't have to do the adjusting for each ride...  Does it have any 
other advantages over a non-adjustable snaffle?


Karen Thomas, NC




Re: [IceHorses] American Bridle Bit

2008-07-16 Thread Judy Ryder

> started using it a bit ago and really have liked it as has my horses.
> It is called the Ringmaster and what I really like is that I can use it
> on several different horses because the bit size is adjustable.
> www.onehander.com


Interesting!  Do you have any video of your horses being ridden in 
one?

Thanks!


Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com 



[IceHorses] American Bridle Bit

2008-07-16 Thread Stephenie and Gunnar
Hi All,
I know there has been lots of discussion on bits but I thought I might 
throw this one out into the pot for some healthy discussion.  I 
started using it a bit ago and really have liked it as has my horses.  
It is called the Ringmaster and what I really like is that I can use it 
on several different horses because the bit size is adjustable.  
Anyway, have at it folks..   Here is the link to the web site 
www.onehander.com 

Stephenie

Klakahross Training Facility in Oklahoma
Yes, Icelandic horse training with a American twist ;)
www.geocities.com/klakahross