[IceHorses] Re: Leslie Desmond yesterday
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He tried to pass. I scolded. whack. So what instinct is that? I'm sorry, I just have seen it too much... horses do act bratty, and sneaky, with each other, and with us. Its almost comical. it is comical. to me :) Like Jaspar snatching bites of weeds on the trail. If I unwind the crop from the saddle and put it on my hand, he stops. If I put it away, he starts. what instinct is that, the trail munchie instinct :) You have a great ability to bring space to a situation:) I think I understand what Leslie is saying, I think, and I also understand what you are saying. I think it could be both ways. This really made me laugh because, having owned ponies for so long, I know exactly what you are talking about. My childhood pony would get his chance and bend his little knees, go under the single rail arena and rub kids off of his back, never did it to me, but I was ready. I believe I recall him trying to rub me off under tree limbs, never happened, I was ready. He did buck one child off, I told her to stop it! He did not like it when she was pretending she was a cowboy, whooping and swinging her arms around, when she didn't listen to me, Sequoia took care of her, or really took care of himself and dumped her. That pony, ditched me in the middle of the San Diego river, we got in the water, he got all slippery and wet and then saw his chance, he got rid of me and bailed, went home to his corral. Believe me, Dari will do what he wants if I am not after him, if he sees the chance, he will go left, when I want to go right, ponies are always plotting. The instinct part, I just think it is dangerous to blame the horse for a lot of things, like bucking, like any of their behavior really. It's one thing to see that they can give input, and I think Leslie lets the horse have plently of input, but we've seen how many times blaming the horse, when really if we fine tune how we relate to them, they will do better, still allowing them to feel their fears, to give input. It's somewhere in the middle for me. Kim
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Leslie Desmond yesterday
That reminded me of my Stella who is now 24 with Cushings. Years ago I would let some male friends ride her once in awhile that really did not know about horses. When my back was turned for an instant one was on the ground. He said she bucked him off. another time friends were out in the pasture and a guy jumped on her bareback and without a halter or bridle or asking me. I saw him later in the pasture lying flat with his legs wailing around. I thought it was a seizure but when I got here he was laughing and said Stella had bucked him off. These were macho guys and I said good for Stella. Luckily no one was harmed. She would take care of anyone I put on her but don't let someone try and cowboy her. I have never seen her buck a day in her life but she does think and have opinions about how things are done.. I had another Icey mare who always bucked a couple of times when we started to canter. I suspect it was the saddle. Those were my ignorant days about saddle fit. Ann
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Leslie Desmond yesterday
On 24/09/2007, Ann Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had another Icey mare who always bucked a couple of times when we started to canter. I suspect it was the saddle. Those were my ignorant days about saddle fit. I know I have had few ignorant days myselfand I fully expect to have many more. I find I can just never learn enough...there is always something new around the corner that has me puzzled. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Leslie Desmond yesterday
When my back was turned for an instant one was on the ground. He said she bucked him off. another time friends were out in the pasture and a guy jumped on her bareback and without a halter or bridle or asking me. I saw him later in the pasture lying flat with his legs wailing around. and said Stella had bucked him off. I think it's probably fair for horses to buck off people that haven't asked to ride; made the proper prior introductions, spent the required time in riding foreplay (grooming, tacking,etc.). Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
[IceHorses] Re: Leslie Desmond yesterday
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you ask for more energy, you have to give them room/rope to use that energy. Ride with feel/Ride with dignity This is interesting, we can't ask them to go, then shut them down. I wish I could have gone, it just would have been too difficult to try and get up there in the middle of the week. I hope she comes back. I got so much out of it. I guess I will have to settle for the new audio book, still saving up a few pennies for it. Kim
