[IceHorses] Treeless Saddles For Sale

2008-05-02 Thread Judy Ryder
Treeless saddles for sale by Marlene Moss:

http://www.lospinos-co.com/view_product.aspx?cat_ID=277&prod_ID=277

Some good prices:  $50, $200, $250, $450.


Judy
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Re: [IceHorses] Treeless Saddles

2008-03-05 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> TRY a
> hybrid.
> Janice
>


That's top of my list to buy once I have some extra $$!
V


Re: [IceHorses] Treeless Saddles

2008-03-03 Thread Janice McDonald
i just want to say I owned almost every treeless there is at one time
and was very unhappy with all of them.  When I bought a used sensation
G3 I loved it but it was still slippy when I mounted and dismounted
and I had a real bad accident in it when stonewall did a spin and I
flew off, which made me feel I needed more security.  But Tivar HAD to
have a treeless.  So I sold the G3 and got exactly what I paid for it,
and then with only a hundred dollars more got a like new hybrid, and
THIS, believe me, is to me, as secure, comfy, and non-slippy as any
treed saddle.  I swear it is, and I am heavy and barely fit in it!.
but the pommel is high enough to offer security and altho it was less
slippy it still slipped when mounting til I got a well fitted breast
collar and used the fixed stirrups and it hasnt slipped a hair since!
So before anyone discounts treeless saddles or even sensations, TRY a
hybrid.
Janice

-- 
even good horses have bad days sometimes.


Re: [IceHorses] Treeless saddles

2007-06-25 Thread Janice McDonald
On 6/25/07, Raven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> i loved my BMSS ~!! it worked great for my hips. i think it all
> depends on how your pelvic floor and hips are set up in your
> conformation. i also have had friends who hated the BMSS ...cuz they
> couldn't sit with wide hips. but...for me...it worked like a charm,
> but not for huignn. <;[  darn.
>

yes, thats how it felt, that I wasnt sitting in the saddle, that i was
hanging from it like a rag doll.  And I would make the stirrups too
short to try and fix it and then my knees would hurt!

One thing I have learned is sometimes people will love a saddle so
much they will think everyone in the world has to have one and it just
doesnt work for everyone!  Even tho I love the sensation I try not to
do this to people, like if they love their saddle and it seems to work
with thier horse i dont go on and on about it.  But because of jaspar
and his probs i have had so many saddles.  People I know are always
asking me for saddle advice :)
I have one riding friend...  she is a BMSS die hard like most of us
are about sensations.  She just wont hear of any other saddle and is
always just preaching to everybody about how they need a BMSS.  For
like three years we would go back and forth pleasantly.  She would
smile happy and say "If you had a nice skito pad when you had your
BMSS it wouldnt have slipped with you" and I would say "once you get
around 200 there is no saddle pad on the planet that will keep you
from slipping"  and she would grin and say "well in a BMSS you sit so
deep even if it does slip a little its almost impossible to lose your
balance!"

Then one day on a HUGE ride we all stopped as a deer came bolting past
and there we were at a dead halt and she goes whoops, my saddle
slipped and did one of those things where you try to jerk it back in
place while sitting in the saddle and at a complete dead halt, she
threw herself out of the saddle and hit the dirt.  I didnt have to say
a word either, she was as red as a beet!  haha.  But she still rides a
BMSS!  and hey, thats fine with me :)  I'm just glad she didnt get
hurt, or like me saturday, land in a pile of fresh poop and crack your
helmet wide open , jeez louise.
janice--
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] Treeless saddles

2007-06-25 Thread Raven
>>told her I felt a BMSS caused hip orbs because i didnt even HAVE hip
probs and it hurt my hips.  Why? because you sit in a position where
your legs just hang straight down,
no "chair seat" type bend at all in the frame.

i loved my BMSS ~!! it worked great for my hips. i think it all
depends on how your pelvic floor and hips are set up in your
conformation. i also have had friends who hated the BMSS ...cuz they
couldn't sit with wide hips. but...for me...it worked like a charm,
but not for huignn. <;[  darn.

Raven
Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies

Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.


Re: [IceHorses] Treeless saddles

2007-06-25 Thread pyramid
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 08:21:54PM -, Pamela Hansen wrote:
> Ok, Well, I went on a hour long trail ride using the sensation and my 
> hip was killing me. []
> again.  I love the look of the saddle and it felt real secure on her. 
> Going up and downn hills I felt great.  Would it be safe to say one 
> kind of treeless might hurt and another would position me different and 
> not? 

the sensations are pretty adjustable, and it might be a matter of
getting yours just correct to fit you.  i couldn't reach the "hard use"
stirrups on mine, but the "free swing" stirrups worked great!  and i
liked the way i could feel my hips and pelvis much better with a
"bolster" (i gather you can also use a rolled-up towel) between the rear
of the seat and the cantle.

soi wouldn't suggest you just keep riding in it if it hurts you, but
i would suggest that maybe there's a better way to adjust it to fit you
personally.  (when i trialed mine i used it on students ranging from 60#
to 240#, and in height from 4'6" to 6'3", so you can bet i was trying
out a lot of different adjusting ;)

maybe talk to your dealer too?  kaaren jordan was a HUGE help to me when
i was fiddling with mine, we must have spent hours on the phone and i
sent her gazillions of photographs.  i didn't like the sensation all
that much right out of the box -- certainly nowhere near as much as i
liked my comfy quilted hrimnir, but once i had it "just so" it worked
much better for me.

--vicka


Re: [IceHorses] Treeless saddles

2007-06-25 Thread Janice McDonald
On 6/22/07, Pamela Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, Well, I went on a hour long trail ride using the sensation and my
> hip was killing me.  I have hip problems and have gotten steroid shots
> in the past but usually doesn't hurt in the saddle.


I dont have any hip probs at all and have owned several different
models and brands of treeless saddles.  First of all, how and what
type of riding you do makes a difference.  That being said...  I owned
a BMSS once that was my first treeless.  After about an hour into a
ride I would start feeling tension in my hips.  After two hours my
hips hurt.  after 3 hours and into the 4th hour I would actually be
hitching my legs up onto the horses shoulders for some relief.  I
started telling my friends that BMSS was killing my hips.  My friend
has hips so bad she is considering hip replacement and she has been
riding a BMSS for years.  I told her I felt a BMSS caused hip orbs
because i didnt even HAVE hip probs and it hurt my hips.  Why?
because you sit in a position where your legs just hang straight down,
no "chair seat" type bend at all in the frame.

I ditched the BMSS.  I have had several treeless since.  The Sensation
has the velcro thingie you can adjust either forward or back.  That
velcro thing is the key in my experience/opinion to hip pain/relief.
because you can adjust it where you want.
Janice
yipie tie yie yo


[IceHorses] Treeless Saddles For Sale

2007-04-20 Thread Judy Ryder
>From Michaela:1) Torsion :a gently used 18" (like a 17" Western
  size)  Torsion, Extra Light, Treeless black saddle with inserts and
  gray sympa-nova underside. It comes with English rigging, a soft
touch girth, E-Z ride leather covered stirrups, endurance fenders, and
  a black Equipedic pad. Asking 1000 for package (plus shipping).

2) Bob Marshall/ Circle Y western saddle, square skirt, tooled, basket
weaving, 16 inch, medium oil with toast seat, like new condition,
asking 875 plus shipping. Awesome saddle at a great price.

Please e-mail me for more info at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks so much :-)