RE: [IceHorses] ground driving-Saddle Chariot
I talked to Simon again today. He's probably buying the 10 prototype frames back from the rep who never repped, and he thinks he can update them and put the new harnesses on and be able to sell them for a discount (email me privately). He would be more predisposed to sell those discounted ones to people who would be willing to let other people come and see and/or try them. He was really excited about the wheel chair version. He's working on a radio-controlled release. There will be a quick release for the driver, but also a radio-controlled quick release for a back-up. Something a helper can operate from a distance if needed. He still says he's planning to come to the Fjord Fun Fest end of June, go up to Virginia and then try to get a few more visits in. If anybody really wants to try one and can get a group together that might pay a small fee each to get the demo (Simon's highly entertaining) and help pay for his traveling expenses, let me know. You would need an Icelandic (or other small horse) that knows the basics of driving, or a mini horse or something else really small that is really mellow and leads well. Cherie No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1376 - Release Date: 4/13/2008 1:45 PM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [IceHorses] ground driving-Saddle Chariot
>>> If he can get out of the deal he made with the other lady I may be able to >>> get the older frames for us for a good deal if others are interested. One >>> Saddle Chariot can be modified to work with several different sized horses, >>> with a few extra parts. Let me know if those come up for sale at a good price. I'm not looking to fork out $3000 on one of those, when I can get a new easy-entry cart for about $500-600. Karen Thomas, NC IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [IceHorses] ground driving-Saddle Chariot
I think it looks easy to make out of plywood and an old push lawn mower and somebody else oughta just do it. If you dont I will just tell my friend Sylvia what it looks like and she will probably build one in about a half hour. She made her own one horse buggy last year out of bicycle tires and planks... Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
RE: [IceHorses] ground driving-Saddle Chariot
Hi Renee, I said that. I've bee talking to Simon for ages, but as a typical inventor, he kept tinkering and modifying. He did send 10 prototypes to a woman in Texas who didn't do anything with them. Last year, I found out that she'd moved to North Carolina. I tried several times to contact her and go see the saddle chariots. Simon thought she was going to train a few people to use them for demo purposes. She wanted all or nothing, and wanted to have them manufactured in the US and be the sole distributor, but didn't pursue it. Her daughter finally contacted me. I went and tried it. I drove a not very well broke pony. The Saddlechariot was a blast. We went up a hill, along a pretty bumpy riding trail and down a fairly steep hill, through sand and mud. No problems! You can turn on a dime! This was not the quick release version, but you can easily step off at a steady trot while still holding the reins. Simon was going to prod her into action or try to buy back the Chariots from her and retrofit them with the new harnesses. The old frames are not as pretty as the new ones, but are every bit as functional. Simon said people will always be able to get replacement parts and anytime there is a change or upgrade they will always mesh with the older models. They are probably going to be around $2800-3000 per cart and quick release harness. I told Simon we women will want the harnesses in different colors. He says he can do that and also powder-coat the frames for an additional fee! If he can get out of the deal he made with the other lady I may be able to get the older frames for us for a good deal if others are interested. One Saddle Chariot can be modified to work with several different sized horses, with a few extra parts. Cherie No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1375 - Release Date: 4/12/2008 11:32 AM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [IceHorses] ground driving-Saddle Chariot
>Keep me informed. I would certainly like to see one and I'll try to >forego the temptation to order an easy-entry cart until I've seen one. >(Moses Cone in Junea!) >Karen Thomas, NC Ok. As soon as I hear anything I'll let you know. Yeah, the Fjord Fun Fest at Moses Cone is fun. We camp in stalls and do driving, NH, clicker, trail obstacle and quadrille demos and practice and, of course, go riding! Guests are welcome to come and play! Cherie No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1375 - Release Date: 4/12/2008 11:32 AM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [IceHorses] ground driving-Saddle Chariot
>>> Let me know if you are successful! I am wondering what these puppies >>> will run cost-wise. . . . I seem to remember the number of $1200, including harness, but I can't be sure. And, if it was, that was 2-3 years ago, and the dollar has taken a beating during that time. I would be surprised if they are that inexpensive now. Since I already have two harnesses, I probably should just go ahead and get a cart... Karen Thomas, NC IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [IceHorses] ground driving-Saddle Chariot
Hi Cherie, I'm missing a post or two it seems. Who said this:? > (I'm trying to work with him to rep these things, but he had already > promised the entire US to a lady who has had the prototypes for more than > two years and done nothing. He's trying to undo the deal).< What a shame if someone has had these things here for two years and just sat on them! Geez! Cherie said: > I drove one at her house. The harness didn't look nice enough to sell but > it worked well.< Was it the quick release version?What did you think of the saddlechariot itself?Was it as fun as it looks to drive? >I'm trying to get one of the carts she has and a new harness from Simon, >maybe we can do a two-fer deal.< Let me know if you are successful! I am wondering what these puppies will run cost-wise. . . . And I keep looking at them thinking they don't look too complicated to make for oneself. . . if they never become available to purchase that is. -- Renee M. in Michigan IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [IceHorses] ground driving-Saddle Chariot
>>> If he shows up...he's a flaky inventor you know...it will be at Moses >>> Cone June 23-28. If he doesn't show up, there's a lady in Asheville who >>> has several of the prototypes. I drove one at her house. The harness >>> didn't look nice enough to sell but it worked well. I'm trying to get >>> one of the carts she has and a new harness from Simon, maybe we can do a >>> two-fer deal. Keep me informed. I would certainly like to see one and I'll try to forego the temptation to order an easy-entry cart until I've seen one. (Moses Cone in Junea!) Karen Thomas, NC IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [IceHorses] ground driving-Saddle Chariot
(I'm trying to work with him to rep these things, but he had already promised the entire US to a lady who has had the prototypes for more than two years and done nothing. He's trying to undo the deal). If he shows up...he's a flaky inventor you know...it will be at Moses Cone June 23-28. If he doesn't show up, there's a lady in Asheville who has several of the prototypes. I drove one at her house. The harness didn't look nice enough to sell but it worked well. I'm trying to get one of the carts she has and a new harness from Simon, maybe we can do a two-fer deal. Cherie IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I've been working on trying to get him out here for two years, but he says he is for sure coming out in June to the Fjord Fun Fest in NC. That would be the start of his summer tour. Will that be in Asheville? I really want to see these things, so let me know when. I really want to get something pretty soon. Karen Thomas, NC IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [IceHorses] ground driving-Saddle Chariot
>Anyway, Mr. Mulholland is planning a trip to the States this summer to demo >the Saddlechariot at various locations.I'm so excited! I am sooo >hoping he comes close enough to Michigan (or Michigan itself) for me to get >to see and meet him.And, I hope this trip results in us North Americans >being able to get our hands on one of these lovely little contraptions at >some point. Renee, I've been working on trying to get him out here for two years, but he says he is for sure coming out in June to the Fjord Fun Fest in NC. That would be the start of his summer tour. He wanted to hitch-hike around the US and demo the saddle-chariot, then he was trying to get in with some horse shippers and travel with them, but I told him he'd be better off actually scheduling some demo clinics and charging just enough to pay his expenses. I may have the opportunity to buy some of the prototype frames and have him bring the new harnesses out. The older frames are a little more utilitarian but fully functional and it may take $500+ off the price of a fully imported one. The wheel-chair version does sound interesting and Simon is really excited about it. Cherie No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.11/1368 - Release Date: 4/9/2008 4:20 PM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
