Re: [IceHorses] Cysco Gait Video / Gat Trot

2007-02-25 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 2/24/07, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I saw some strides of a
 fairly clean trot...and some of fox trot...but the freeze frame was
 shakey, so there might have been more clean trot.  But it's close
 enough.  I riding instructor couldn't fault that.

Why would Gat mix it up?  And why on other days would there be more
fox trot than clean trot.  And, does it really matter if Gat mixes the
two?

 They're doing well.

I think so too Wanda. Thanks!
V


Re: [IceHorses] Cysco Gait Video / Gat Trot

2007-02-25 Thread Wanda Lauscher
 Why would Gat mix it up?  And why on other days would there be more
 fox trot than clean trot.  And, does it really matter if Gat mixes the
 two?

I don't knowprobably the same reason Dagur is mixing it up.
Muscles learning to do new things...

In Dagur's case it will take some time to 'set' a gait.  They need to
be in shape and supple or at least that's my idea.  I'll probably
learn more as we progress with Dagur.

Wanda


RE: [IceHorses] Cysco Gait Video / Gat Trot

2007-02-25 Thread Karen Thomas
 In Dagur's case it will take some time to 'set' a gait.  They need to be in 
 shape and supple or at least that's my idea.  I'll probably learn more as we 
 progress with Dagur.

I suspect that's sort of a different case though, but I could be wrong.  Dagur 
is still a baby, just learning to balance himself with a rider up.  Up until 
now he's been able to do any gait he felt like, whenever he felt like it.  Gat 
is mature though, and has had a rider for a while.  I'd bet she's in decent 
shape - as good as most horses are in the winter anyway.  While strength and 
balance are big issues, another big issue is the conformation and wiring of 
the individual...and from what Virginia has said, I'd bet she's a good bit 
pacier than Dagur.  

For what it's worth, Sina CAN trot, but she also has a good bit of pace in her 
nature/conformation.  I wouldn't describe her as pacey though, since I see 
her trot/foxtrot at liberty a good bit, as well as do all the other gaits.  She 
seems to find it very easy to foxtrot under saddle.  So, I mostly encourage her 
to do her saddle rack (which at times borders on step pace) alternating with 
her foxtrot.  Both are very comfortable to me, and we walk a lot and canter 
some too.  I think we alternate which muscles she uses, and how she uses them 
enough to keep her back strong.  Walk and canter are always good gaits for back 
health.  

One of our next gait projects is to hone her running walk.  She has that too.  

Karen Thomas, NC



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Re: [IceHorses] Cysco Gait Video / Gat Trot

2007-02-25 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 2/25/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The joys of owning a gaited horse...:) Actually, she's probably TRYING to
 trot like you want her to, but she's defaulting back to what's easier for
 her - that would be my guess.

If the foxtrot is easier, is that because of her build or habit?

  And, does it really matter if Gat mixes the two?

  However, it looks like she isn't
 having too much trouble doing her little mixed broken trot/foxtrot/trot
 thing,

No--Gat doesn't seem to be having any trouble.  And Alex doesn't
complain, except about the pace when it mixes in with the canter.

 and honestly, I doubt many people, besides us gait purists would
 ever notice, or care.

The riding coach will often ask Alex to slow down the trot because Gat
just trots on past everyone, so Alex will slow down her posting and
Gat slows down for a bit then she gets faster and gets into this
steady ground covering groove of hers like she's going somewhere even
if it's just around the arena.

Much more important to me is that they look like a
 happy pair, they are able to do their job and both look focused, but
 relaxed.  I'd be proud to own both of them.  :)

I am proud of them--they give me joy to watch.
V


RE: [IceHorses] Cysco Gait Video / Gat Trot

2007-02-25 Thread Karen Thomas
 If the foxtrot is easier, is that because of her build or habit?

It can be from either one, but I'm thinking her build is most of it.  I do
NOT claim to be able to do a conformation analysis with still pictures or
video though!

 The riding coach will often ask Alex to slow down the trot because Gat
just trots on past everyone, so Alex will slow down her posting and Gat
slows down for a bit then she gets faster and gets into this steady ground
covering groove of hers like she's going somewhere even if it's just around
the arena.

I guess that could be from a couple of things.  I think it was Janice who
recently pointed out that horses can rush when they are uncomfortable,
physically or emotionally, maybe trying to keep their balance.  Or it could
be that if she were trained initially by the Icelandic way she was taught,
speed, speed and more speed from the start, so it could be her default way
of trying hard.  Or, maybe it's even just her nature - I don't think
that's the case very often, but I wouldn't rule it out.  If they are
basically happy and relaxed, I wouldn't worry too much - either it is what
it is, or it will get better.  Worrying too much might make it worse if
tension is any part of the cause.

 I am proud of them--they give me joy to watch.

Since they bring back so many good memories of my daughter, Thunder and me,
I sort of think of them as my cyber-kids.  I hope that's ok - maybe I'll
get my own grandkids someday!

Karen Thomas
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Re: [IceHorses] Cysco Gait Video / Gat Trot

2007-02-25 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 2/25/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Worrying too much might make it worse if
 tension is any part of the cause.


I don't think Alex worries about it.  I just want to make sure I do
the right thing for Gat.

  I am proud of them--they give me joy to watch.


 I sort of think of them as my cyber-kids.  I hope that's ok

Of course!
V


Re: [IceHorses] Cysco Gait Video / Gat Trot

2007-02-24 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 2/24/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It does look diagonal--when I noticed the nod I looked closer at the
  legs and they appeared to be diagonal to me, though she has a much
  faster 'trot' than the 'big' horses.


 Send video :-).


How about this one?
http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m199/vlt2006/?action=viewcurrent=trotting.flv

V


Re: [IceHorses] Cysco Gait Video / Gat Trot

2007-02-24 Thread Wanda Lauscher
 How about this one?
 http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m199/vlt2006/?action=viewcurrent=trotting.flv
 V

Wow...they look good together don't they?  I saw some strides of a
fairly clean trot...and some of fox trot...but the freeze frame was
shakey, so there might have been more clean trot.  But it's close
enough.  I riding instructor couldn't fault that.

They're doing well.

Wanda