Re: [IceHorses] Odd behavior
On 4/7/07, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If they only could talk. Oh dear... I'm afraid mine wouldn't ever hush. ;) Steph -- "Brutality begins where skill ends." "Correctly understood, work at the lunge line is indispensable for rider and horse from the very beginning through the highest levels." Von Niendorff
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On 06/04/07, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > with the other. It looked odd. I've seen a horse paw the ground when > bored, etc, but never holding a leg up in the air. He didn't look angry, > upset or in any pain. Anyone have any idea why he'd do that? > Virginia Our Peppy does thisit's usually in situations where he wants something. He'll sort of tap at the air, or the gate, or what ever is in front of him. It isn't agressive at all...just an attention getter. If they only could talk. Wanda
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>>> Personally, I think the float models would be a better fit rather than put a horse through thrist for days before it learns to get water, or not. I'm glad you found that and gave him some water. It's stressful enough for a horse to change homes without being thirsty too. Not drinking water can cause horses to have an impaction colic, and the stress of moving can make some horses colic - one risk factor at a time is plenty. Karen Thomas, NC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/750 - Release Date: 4/6/2007 9:30 PM "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] The video every Icelandic Horse owner should have: http://IceHorses.net/video.html [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses [] IceHorses ToolBar http://iceryder.ourtoolbar.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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>From: "Janet Westminster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Maybe he thinks he needs to go forward to meet you, but then there's >no place to go. Not sure--but he's a sweety. His soft expression reminds me of Orri. V _ Fine Dining & Fancy Food. Check Out This Collection Of Good Eats. http://local.live.com/?mkt=en-ca/?v=2&cid=A6D6BDB4586E357F!378
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>From: "Stephanie Caldwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Star does it, and it's 100% my fault. I always yell at her after she >paws the first time, and I don't get her when she just takes a leg off >the ground. So, I taught her it's okay to stand around with one leg >up, just don't paw or you get yelled at. I was at the barn tonight and said hello to the new horse again--same leg lift, no pawing, just a hold. Anyways, I gave him a carrot slice and checked his water...empty. He has an automatic water dish but I don't think he knows how to use it--maybe I'm ruining his learning curve by filling it for him, but he dives for the water and I refill it about 6 times before he's finished. Orri never learned how to use his and the barn owner had to put a different model in, one that has a float and refills itself--maybe this new horse will be the same. Personally, I think the float models would be a better fit rather than put a horse through thrist for days before it learns to get water, or not. V _ Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live Spaces. http://spaces.live.com/?mkt=en-ca
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>Our boarding barn brought in a new school horse this evening--he has >a >beautiful soft eye and a gentle expression--he seems curious and >friendly. > >I went up to his stall to say hello and he lifted his front leg >holding it >there, sometimes pawing the air. He'd put it down, and then do the >same >with the other. It looked odd. I've seen a horse paw the ground >when >bored, etc, but never holding a leg up in the air. He didn't look >angry, >upset or in any pain. Anyone have any idea why he'd do that? > Maybe he thinks he needs to go forward to meet you, but then there's no place to go. Janet Caliente, CA
Re: [IceHorses] Odd behavior
On 4/6/07, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I went up to his stall to say hello and he lifted his front leg holding it > there, sometimes pawing the air. ... Anyone have any idea why he'd do that? Star does it, and it's 100% my fault. I always yell at her after she paws the first time, and I don't get her when she just takes a leg off the ground. So, I taught her it's okay to stand around with one leg up, just don't paw or you get yelled at. Steph -- "Brutality begins where skill ends." "Correctly understood, work at the lunge line is indispensable for rider and horse from the very beginning through the highest levels." Von Niendorff
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> Okay - don't all start yelling. Clicker training? > > Our friend's horse picks her feet up randomly trying > to earn a reward. > > Nancy > > > Wow. How cool. Happy Southwestern Trails It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
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>>> EXACTLY! So he's frustrated? Upset about the move to a new place, new faces, horses, smells? With my mare, it's just something she does, like her "primal instincts" are strong. She doesn't do it a lot, but she does it a lot at feeding time as I said, like her instincts are telling her to paw and forage for food, even though her food is put in front of her in a "plate". I don't see her doing it with her hay...only with her pellets, which is sort of an unnatural way of feeding - but at her age, she needs some pellets for supplement. I quit thinking about her doing it ages ago, since it simply seems to be one of her idiosyncrasies. She's a pretty darned settled and dependable mare, so I don't worry, and she isn't as apt to do this as when she was young - and when I was dumber... I think any horse that has recently been moves has plenty of reasons for frustration. As you said, just being in a new place with new horses and humans is probably plenty. If he were mine, I'd keep watch, but basically ignore the behavior, and hope that it would lesson as he settles. I sure wouldn't try to stop it by reprimanding him, because if it is coming from nervousness or frustration, trying to stop him will likely only make him more nervous or frustrated. Of course, I'd do everything I could think of in the interim to help him settle too. I think of Tivar when he first came. He was very mouthy, and that was annoying. I was tempted to tell him to cut it out, because it was aggravating, but I didn't. Eventually, his mouthiness diminished significantly, until it was still just one of his minor, but very moderated, quirks. I haven't heard Janice say how he's doing with that quirk recently... Karen Thomas, NC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/750 - Release Date: 4/6/2007 9:30 PM "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] The video every Icelandic Horse owner should have: http://IceHorses.net/video.html [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses [] IceHorses ToolBar http://iceryder.ourtoolbar.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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>From: "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sort of like he's pawing in slow motion, and his leg would just sort of get >hung mid-air? EXACTLY! So he's frustrated? Upset about the move to a new place, new faces, horses, smells? V _ This Easter, Get Active With Live Maps! http://local.live.com/?mkt=en-ca/?v=2&cid=A6D6BDB4586E357F!101
RE: [IceHorses] Odd behavior
>>> I went up to his stall to say hello and he lifted his front leg holding it there, sometimes pawing the air. He'd put it down, and then do the same with the other. It looked odd. I've seen a horse paw the ground when bored, etc, but never holding a leg up in the air. He didn't look angry, upset or in any pain. Anyone have any idea why he'd do that? Sort of like he's pawing in slow motion, and his leg would just sort of get hung mid-air? My TWH mare will do that when she's frustrated - she doesn't really have to seem angry or upset - it just seems like a primal reaction. She will do it sometimes when she's eating out of her grain pan. It's almost like she feels obligated to paw up the snow to get some grass, even though the "grass" is her senior pellets - there's no threat in her body language. (And if so, that must be primal, since we rarely get snow...) She's done it all her life, probably more noticeable when she was younger. Karen Thomas, NC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/748 - Release Date: 4/5/2007 3:33 PM "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] The video every Icelandic Horse owner should have: http://IceHorses.net/video.html [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses [] IceHorses ToolBar http://iceryder.ourtoolbar.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [IceHorses] Odd Behavior
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Okay - don't all start yelling. Clicker training? > >Our friend's horse picks her feet up randomly trying to earn a reward. Well, I was wondering if he was doing a 'trick' or if it was a nervous behavior, even though he didn't act nervous. V _ This Easter, Hop Over To Live Maps For Some Cultural Enlightenment. http://local.live.com/?mkt=en-ca/?v=2&cid=A6D6BDB4586E357F!101
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> I went up to his stall to say hello and he lifted his front leg holding it > there, sometimes pawing the air. He'd put it down, and then do the same > with the other. I think lots of horses develop different behaviors to try to communicate with people. Who knows, at some time he may have been given more attention for doing something like that, so it becomes his default "talk to me" behavior! Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
