Re: [IceHorses] Re: Road Founder / Concussive Soring Practices/Trish

2007-06-27 Thread Skye and Sally ~Fire Island

--- pippa258 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Skye and Sally ~Fire Island wrote:
> > ...we use the ground controll polys now when we ride
> paradeall the time now actually so concussion is not an issue,
> they actually have better protection than if they were
> barefoot.


> What are ground controll polys?  Is this a shoe or a boot?
> 
> Trish



It is a shoe made form Poly material, it comes in clear or black, the
clear is better as you can see through the shoe to nail, which is
really nice.  It has a support across the back and up through the
middle of the frog so that the frog still has contact


If you can not do barefoot, this a great shoe!  They last as long as
a steel shoe, and you can feel the difference as a rider, imagine how
the horse feels.

Its like going from wearing a steel toe boot to cushy air
nikesthey are great shoes for parades...far better than putting
in studs, as some people do..


We highly recomend the shoes to our clients, and now are using a case
and a half a month between the horses we own and our clients.


You do not get the really cool sound on asphalt tolting in a group
though.oh wellmuch better for the horses.

groundcontroll.com

1-877-traction

Tell Kristy we told you about them, shes the owner and developer and
very nice.


Skye



 

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Re: [IceHorses] Re: Road Founder / Concussive Soring Practices/Trish

2007-06-27 Thread pippa258
Skye and Sally ~Fire Island wrote:
> ...we use the ground controll polys now when we ride paradeall the time 
> now actually so concussion is not an issue, they actually have better 
> protection than if they were barefoot.
What are ground controll polys?  Is this a shoe or a boot?

Trish



Re: [IceHorses] Re: Road Founder / Concussive Soring Practices/Trish

2007-06-27 Thread Skye and Sally ~Fire Island

--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





 I was told by an old
> timer "quickest way to permanently cripple a horse, a young one
> especially, is to ride him fast through deep sucky mud."
> 
> so that can be a bad surface too.  But I do see a flaw in your list
> of
> surfaces.  for one, a gravel road will lame a horse quicker than
> anything because of sharp little pointy rocks.  been there done
> that.
> Janice--



I will agree with the gravel road...I have seen many lame horses
because of gravel, and not one yet because they were ridden on
asphalt during a parade or other hard surfaces..we use the ground
controll polys now when we ride paradeall the time now actually
so concussion is not an issue, they actually have better protection
than if they were barefoot.

Skye

 

  Fire Island Farms
Breeding Quality Icelandic Trail Horses 

  
 Certified Farrier Services
  'Natural Balance' Shoeing and Trimming.
 Founder, Navicular options for your horse.

  808-640-6080


 
  
  



RE: [IceHorses] Re: Road Founder / Concussive Soring Practices/Trish

2007-06-27 Thread Karen Thomas
>>>.  for one, a gravel road will lame a horse quicker than anything because of 
>>>sharp little pointy rocks.  been there done that.

That's a good point.  The good thing (if there is any good thing) about that 
kind of lameness is that it is very easy to see cause and effect, since the 
effect shows up so quickly, and is rarely long term.  The kind of lameness that 
one might expect from riding in mud, or on ice or any other hard or slippery 
surface, may take much longer to show up, and is more likely to be long-term.  


Karen Thomas
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Re: [IceHorses] Re: Road Founder / Concussive Soring Practices/Trish

2007-06-27 Thread Janice McDonald
> Science and perception do not always agree.
>
> ~Nick
>

maybe because a lot of people hitting pavement or ice end up so gimped
up they dont ride much anymore.

a consideration in my area, well, used to be before we entered into
the drought of bibilical disaster proportion we are presently in---
is deep sucky mud.  I would actually say it is almost as bad as
quicksand at times.  But very very normal to be riding along a trail
and enter into a muddy area, then without knowing, go down to a drying
up pond or lakebed and next thing the horse is up to his armpits and
thrashing and fighting to get out.  soo.  I was told by an old
timer "quickest way to permanently cripple a horse, a young one
especially, is to ride him fast through deep sucky mud."

so that can be a bad surface too.  But I do see a flaw in your list of
surfaces.  for one, a gravel road will lame a horse quicker than
anything because of sharp little pointy rocks.  been there done that.
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] Re: Road Founder / Concussive Soring Practices/Trish

2007-06-26 Thread Raven
IMHO...Ice Tolts are circus acts.   If you want to impress other breed
riders..hit the trails!

Raven
Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies

Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.


Re: [IceHorses] Re: Road Founder / Concussive Soring Practices/Trish

2007-06-26 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 26/06/07, Nick Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 8. Water  1000
> >  not sure how to ride on it :-)
> > 
> > 9. Solid Ice   919
> > 
>
> Let me also add that water and solid ice have certain other unique
> chemical properties that effect the way their surfaces interact with
> pressure, but I'm not sure exactly how that would practically apply in
> the case of our interests.
>
> ~Nick

What about Ice on top of concrete as is found in most hockey arenas...??

Wanda